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Dearest Valarie,

 

I'm so sorry to hear that nothing has changed with your husband's attitude

toward your K path. I know that this has got to be very difficult for you, I

can't imagine not having the support of my husband/best friend. You will be in

my prayers!

 

Love,

Claudia

 

Valarie Vousden <vjvousden wrote:

My husband broached the subject of the Kundalini posts, which he

happened to read a few of while I was away from the computer. This

initiated a lecture on gullibility, triviality within a serious

subject, actually a dangerous one and not something to toy with, end-

gaining and looking to others for solutions or experiences that are

most private and personal, not to be talked about because most times

there aren't even any words for it. Well, I do agree with the end-

gaining as in wanting to get from point A to point B. One should just

be and allow not " try " to make something happen or say " I'm HERE and

I really want to get THERE " . I couldn't convince him otherwise on the

dangers of it and the lack of help if something went horribly wrong.

He showed me one of the negative websites in opposition to the KAS1

site. " It's not all happy clappy and NO one is an expert on this, no

one truly understands it. " he says. He's right and he's wrong. I know

what I feel but I know there are unknowns, too. I won't pretend I'm

an expert or that I understand all that can happen. I have only in

the last 3 or 4 months come to really surrender to the K without

reservation. But now this. He says he can't forbid me to follow this

(thank you very much!) but he is most disapproving and very, very

concerned for me. He has been interested in and dabbled in meditation

all his life. He went into Transcendental Meditation for a bit in his

late 20's and did experience an OBE while awake. He didn't know what

it was and it scared the holy shit out of him and he has been against

anything like that sort of thing that can lead to an altered state of

mind ever since. He has only recently started doing a very gentle

form of meditation called Vipisana which is only calming to him. So I

feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to cause

us to fight over something I feel is important and on the other hand

I don't want to do things in secret either. So, I don't know what the

point of my telling you this is, other than to put it out there and

make you aware. I guess I may not be on as much as I have been but I

won't quit it either...and I WILL help with DenDen's healing

incursion! I know I'm not the only one here with a spouse

diametrically opposed to their path. And because I love him and have

no other quarrel with him other than this, I will work with it

somehow. I guess I can ask for your prayers for the highest good here

for both of us. My path and his path. They are intertwined.

 

Thanks for listening and you know I hold you all in my heart!

Valarie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh Val, you will be in my prayers! I really don't know what to say other then I

hope that he will be opened to you about it whereas it allows you to explain to

him the purpose of the group. Explain to him if you think you can that people

can be awakened spontaneously and without someone there to help. My husband is

trusting of my judgments on what I am doing and I am fortunate for that because

I know there are a lot of spouses who are not. Maybe he can talk to over

the phone about it or something. He is reacting the same way I reacted when I

stumbled upon the Kundalini in the very beginning. Matter of fact when I read of

what people experienced, I didn't even want anyone to know that I even looked it

up, I was that afraid of it, but I somehow kept being lead to it and I finally

was linked to Chrism's group by accident and that was the first time I had read

anything positive about it. It had truly scared the HELL out of me in the being

reading the

stuff people experienced and the warnings against it and so forth and so on,

but like I said when I read Chrism's introduction I didn't have that same

feeling and then I began to learn and my fear slowly ceased. I hope this will

happen with your husband. See if he is willing to read other things that Chrism

has posted about the safeties if you haven't done that already. Meanwhile, I

will pray for both of you! I know you don't want to make a choice and you don't

want to hide it because of your relationship you have with your husband and I

totally understand that and respect it. That is how I feel about my husband and

me, I want to be open with him and not hide things so I don't. Love to you my

friend.

 

Love,

Katherine

 

 

 

Valarie Vousden <vjvousden

 

Saturday, November 3, 2007 7:00:34 PM

No progress with husband on K...

 

My husband broached the subject of the Kundalini posts, which he

happened to read a few of while I was away from the computer. This

initiated a lecture on gullibility, triviality within a serious

subject, actually a dangerous one and not something to toy with, end-

gaining and looking to others for solutions or experiences that are

most private and personal, not to be talked about because most times

there aren't even any words for it. Well, I do agree with the end-

gaining as in wanting to get from point A to point B. One should just

be and allow not " try " to make something happen or say " I'm HERE and

I really want to get THERE " . I couldn't convince him otherwise on the

dangers of it and the lack of help if something went horribly wrong.

He showed me one of the negative websites in opposition to the KAS1

site. " It's not all happy clappy and NO one is an expert on this, no

one truly understands it. " he says. He's right and he's wrong. I know

what I feel but I know there are unknowns, too. I won't pretend I'm

an expert or that I understand all that can happen. I have only in

the last 3 or 4 months come to really surrender to the K without

reservation. But now this. He says he can't forbid me to follow this

(thank you very much!) but he is most disapproving and very, very

concerned for me. He has been interested in and dabbled in meditation

all his life. He went into Transcendental Meditation for a bit in his

late 20's and did experience an OBE while awake. He didn't know what

it was and it scared the holy shit out of him and he has been against

anything like that sort of thing that can lead to an altered state of

mind ever since. He has only recently started doing a very gentle

form of meditation called Vipisana which is only calming to him. So I

feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to cause

us to fight over something I feel is important and on the other hand

I don't want to do things in secret either. So, I don't know what the

point of my telling you this is, other than to put it out there and

make you aware. I guess I may not be on as much as I have been but I

won't quit it either...and I WILL help with DenDen's healing

incursion! I know I'm not the only one here with a spouse

diametrically opposed to their path. And because I love him and have

no other quarrel with him other than this, I will work with it

somehow. I guess I can ask for your prayers for the highest good here

for both of us. My path and his path. They are intertwined.

 

Thanks for listening and you know I hold you all in my heart!

Valarie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I only wish I knew a solution to this as I am in the same boat as you.

Actually I jumped on this boat knowledgeable of my actions because I

was having kundalini symptoms before my wife was born. And had full

awareness of my actions and I'm at a loss.

 

I'll pray for you and hubby to find some compromise.

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Sorry about your plight, Valarie. I bet that, had you joined a

fundamentalist church, you wouldn't have to deal with this antagonism.

He'll come around when he sees that you are not becoming some kind of

cult slave. His response is based on fear. Just show him how normal

you are, and will continue to be.

 

Sel

 

 

, Claudia

<newtfoodbowl wrote:

>

> Dearest Valarie,

>

> I'm so sorry to hear that nothing has changed with your husband's

attitude toward your K path. I know that this has got to be very

difficult for you, I can't imagine not having the support of my

husband/best friend. You will be in my prayers!

>

> Love,

> Claudia

>

> Valarie Vousden <vjvousden wrote:

> My husband broached the subject of the Kundalini posts,

which he

> happened to read a few of while I was away from the computer. This

> initiated a lecture on gullibility, triviality within a serious

> subject, actually a dangerous one and not something to toy with, end-

> gaining and looking to others for solutions or experiences that are

> most private and personal, not to be talked about because most times

> there aren't even any words for it. Well, I do agree with the end-

> gaining as in wanting to get from point A to point B. One should just

> be and allow not " try " to make something happen or say " I'm HERE and

> I really want to get THERE " . I couldn't convince him otherwise on the

> dangers of it and the lack of help if something went horribly wrong.

> He showed me one of the negative websites in opposition to the KAS1

> site. " It's not all happy clappy and NO one is an expert on this, no

> one truly understands it. " he says. He's right and he's wrong. I know

> what I feel but I know there are unknowns, too. I won't pretend I'm

> an expert or that I understand all that can happen. I have only in

> the last 3 or 4 months come to really surrender to the K without

> reservation. But now this. He says he can't forbid me to follow this

> (thank you very much!) but he is most disapproving and very, very

> concerned for me. He has been interested in and dabbled in meditation

> all his life. He went into Transcendental Meditation for a bit in his

> late 20's and did experience an OBE while awake. He didn't know what

> it was and it scared the holy shit out of him and he has been against

> anything like that sort of thing that can lead to an altered state of

> mind ever since. He has only recently started doing a very gentle

> form of meditation called Vipisana which is only calming to him. So I

> feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to cause

> us to fight over something I feel is important and on the other hand

> I don't want to do things in secret either. So, I don't know what the

> point of my telling you this is, other than to put it out there and

> make you aware. I guess I may not be on as much as I have been but I

> won't quit it either...and I WILL help with DenDen's healing

> incursion! I know I'm not the only one here with a spouse

> diametrically opposed to their path. And because I love him and have

> no other quarrel with him other than this, I will work with it

> somehow. I guess I can ask for your prayers for the highest good here

> for both of us. My path and his path. They are intertwined.

>

> Thanks for listening and you know I hold you all in my heart!

> Valarie

>

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Sorry to hear of your quandry Valarie. It must be very difficult,

especially with it being your mate. It sounds to me like pure fear

talking. Have you offered for him to read the KAS website and

Safeties? Of course there are many who are going through horrific

awakening experiences, but they are most likely people without the

wonderful guidance that we are given. Would he be willing to join

the group and come talk to those of us that are going through this

with you? Just a few thoughts.

 

You are meant for this. There are challenges in all our lives and

they serve different purposes and lessons. Somehow a way will be

made.

 

Big hug!

 

Sarita

 

, " Valarie

Vousden " <vjvousden wrote:

>

> My husband broached the subject of the Kundalini posts, which he

> happened to read a few of while I was away from the computer. This

> initiated a lecture on gullibility, triviality within a serious

> subject, actually a dangerous one and not something to toy with,

end-

> gaining and looking to others for solutions or experiences that are

> most private and personal, not to be talked about because most

times

> there aren't even any words for it. Well, I do agree with the end-

> gaining as in wanting to get from point A to point B. One should

just

> be and allow not " try " to make something happen or say " I'm HERE

and

> I really want to get THERE " . I couldn't convince him otherwise on

the

> dangers of it and the lack of help if something went horribly

wrong.

> He showed me one of the negative websites in opposition to the KAS1

> site. " It's not all happy clappy and NO one is an expert on this,

no

> one truly understands it. " he says. He's right and he's wrong. I

know

> what I feel but I know there are unknowns, too. I won't pretend I'm

> an expert or that I understand all that can happen. I have only in

> the last 3 or 4 months come to really surrender to the K without

> reservation. But now this. He says he can't forbid me to follow

this

> (thank you very much!) but he is most disapproving and very, very

> concerned for me. He has been interested in and dabbled in

meditation

> all his life. He went into Transcendental Meditation for a bit in

his

> late 20's and did experience an OBE while awake. He didn't know

what

> it was and it scared the holy shit out of him and he has been

against

> anything like that sort of thing that can lead to an altered state

of

> mind ever since. He has only recently started doing a very gentle

> form of meditation called Vipisana which is only calming to him. So

I

> feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to

cause

> us to fight over something I feel is important and on the other

hand

> I don't want to do things in secret either. So, I don't know what

the

> point of my telling you this is, other than to put it out there and

> make you aware. I guess I may not be on as much as I have been but

I

> won't quit it either...and I WILL help with DenDen's healing

> incursion! I know I'm not the only one here with a spouse

> diametrically opposed to their path. And because I love him and

have

> no other quarrel with him other than this, I will work with it

> somehow. I guess I can ask for your prayers for the highest good

here

> for both of us. My path and his path. They are intertwined.

>

> Thanks for listening and you know I hold you all in my heart!

> Valarie

>

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