Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Dearest Valarie, I'm so sorry to hear that nothing has changed with your husband's attitude toward your K path. I know that this has got to be very difficult for you, I can't imagine not having the support of my husband/best friend. You will be in my prayers! Love, Claudia Valarie Vousden <vjvousden wrote: My husband broached the subject of the Kundalini posts, which he happened to read a few of while I was away from the computer. This initiated a lecture on gullibility, triviality within a serious subject, actually a dangerous one and not something to toy with, end- gaining and looking to others for solutions or experiences that are most private and personal, not to be talked about because most times there aren't even any words for it. Well, I do agree with the end- gaining as in wanting to get from point A to point B. One should just be and allow not " try " to make something happen or say " I'm HERE and I really want to get THERE " . I couldn't convince him otherwise on the dangers of it and the lack of help if something went horribly wrong. He showed me one of the negative websites in opposition to the KAS1 site. " It's not all happy clappy and NO one is an expert on this, no one truly understands it. " he says. He's right and he's wrong. I know what I feel but I know there are unknowns, too. I won't pretend I'm an expert or that I understand all that can happen. I have only in the last 3 or 4 months come to really surrender to the K without reservation. But now this. He says he can't forbid me to follow this (thank you very much!) but he is most disapproving and very, very concerned for me. He has been interested in and dabbled in meditation all his life. He went into Transcendental Meditation for a bit in his late 20's and did experience an OBE while awake. He didn't know what it was and it scared the holy shit out of him and he has been against anything like that sort of thing that can lead to an altered state of mind ever since. He has only recently started doing a very gentle form of meditation called Vipisana which is only calming to him. So I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to cause us to fight over something I feel is important and on the other hand I don't want to do things in secret either. So, I don't know what the point of my telling you this is, other than to put it out there and make you aware. I guess I may not be on as much as I have been but I won't quit it either...and I WILL help with DenDen's healing incursion! I know I'm not the only one here with a spouse diametrically opposed to their path. And because I love him and have no other quarrel with him other than this, I will work with it somehow. I guess I can ask for your prayers for the highest good here for both of us. My path and his path. They are intertwined. Thanks for listening and you know I hold you all in my heart! Valarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Oh Val, you will be in my prayers! I really don't know what to say other then I hope that he will be opened to you about it whereas it allows you to explain to him the purpose of the group. Explain to him if you think you can that people can be awakened spontaneously and without someone there to help. My husband is trusting of my judgments on what I am doing and I am fortunate for that because I know there are a lot of spouses who are not. Maybe he can talk to over the phone about it or something. He is reacting the same way I reacted when I stumbled upon the Kundalini in the very beginning. Matter of fact when I read of what people experienced, I didn't even want anyone to know that I even looked it up, I was that afraid of it, but I somehow kept being lead to it and I finally was linked to Chrism's group by accident and that was the first time I had read anything positive about it. It had truly scared the HELL out of me in the being reading the stuff people experienced and the warnings against it and so forth and so on, but like I said when I read Chrism's introduction I didn't have that same feeling and then I began to learn and my fear slowly ceased. I hope this will happen with your husband. See if he is willing to read other things that Chrism has posted about the safeties if you haven't done that already. Meanwhile, I will pray for both of you! I know you don't want to make a choice and you don't want to hide it because of your relationship you have with your husband and I totally understand that and respect it. That is how I feel about my husband and me, I want to be open with him and not hide things so I don't. Love to you my friend. Love, Katherine Valarie Vousden <vjvousden Saturday, November 3, 2007 7:00:34 PM No progress with husband on K... My husband broached the subject of the Kundalini posts, which he happened to read a few of while I was away from the computer. This initiated a lecture on gullibility, triviality within a serious subject, actually a dangerous one and not something to toy with, end- gaining and looking to others for solutions or experiences that are most private and personal, not to be talked about because most times there aren't even any words for it. Well, I do agree with the end- gaining as in wanting to get from point A to point B. One should just be and allow not " try " to make something happen or say " I'm HERE and I really want to get THERE " . I couldn't convince him otherwise on the dangers of it and the lack of help if something went horribly wrong. He showed me one of the negative websites in opposition to the KAS1 site. " It's not all happy clappy and NO one is an expert on this, no one truly understands it. " he says. He's right and he's wrong. I know what I feel but I know there are unknowns, too. I won't pretend I'm an expert or that I understand all that can happen. I have only in the last 3 or 4 months come to really surrender to the K without reservation. But now this. He says he can't forbid me to follow this (thank you very much!) but he is most disapproving and very, very concerned for me. He has been interested in and dabbled in meditation all his life. He went into Transcendental Meditation for a bit in his late 20's and did experience an OBE while awake. He didn't know what it was and it scared the holy shit out of him and he has been against anything like that sort of thing that can lead to an altered state of mind ever since. He has only recently started doing a very gentle form of meditation called Vipisana which is only calming to him. So I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to cause us to fight over something I feel is important and on the other hand I don't want to do things in secret either. So, I don't know what the point of my telling you this is, other than to put it out there and make you aware. I guess I may not be on as much as I have been but I won't quit it either...and I WILL help with DenDen's healing incursion! I know I'm not the only one here with a spouse diametrically opposed to their path. And because I love him and have no other quarrel with him other than this, I will work with it somehow. I guess I can ask for your prayers for the highest good here for both of us. My path and his path. They are intertwined. Thanks for listening and you know I hold you all in my heart! Valarie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 I only wish I knew a solution to this as I am in the same boat as you. Actually I jumped on this boat knowledgeable of my actions because I was having kundalini symptoms before my wife was born. And had full awareness of my actions and I'm at a loss. I'll pray for you and hubby to find some compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Sorry about your plight, Valarie. I bet that, had you joined a fundamentalist church, you wouldn't have to deal with this antagonism. He'll come around when he sees that you are not becoming some kind of cult slave. His response is based on fear. Just show him how normal you are, and will continue to be. Sel , Claudia <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > Dearest Valarie, > > I'm so sorry to hear that nothing has changed with your husband's attitude toward your K path. I know that this has got to be very difficult for you, I can't imagine not having the support of my husband/best friend. You will be in my prayers! > > Love, > Claudia > > Valarie Vousden <vjvousden wrote: > My husband broached the subject of the Kundalini posts, which he > happened to read a few of while I was away from the computer. This > initiated a lecture on gullibility, triviality within a serious > subject, actually a dangerous one and not something to toy with, end- > gaining and looking to others for solutions or experiences that are > most private and personal, not to be talked about because most times > there aren't even any words for it. Well, I do agree with the end- > gaining as in wanting to get from point A to point B. One should just > be and allow not " try " to make something happen or say " I'm HERE and > I really want to get THERE " . I couldn't convince him otherwise on the > dangers of it and the lack of help if something went horribly wrong. > He showed me one of the negative websites in opposition to the KAS1 > site. " It's not all happy clappy and NO one is an expert on this, no > one truly understands it. " he says. He's right and he's wrong. I know > what I feel but I know there are unknowns, too. I won't pretend I'm > an expert or that I understand all that can happen. I have only in > the last 3 or 4 months come to really surrender to the K without > reservation. But now this. He says he can't forbid me to follow this > (thank you very much!) but he is most disapproving and very, very > concerned for me. He has been interested in and dabbled in meditation > all his life. He went into Transcendental Meditation for a bit in his > late 20's and did experience an OBE while awake. He didn't know what > it was and it scared the holy shit out of him and he has been against > anything like that sort of thing that can lead to an altered state of > mind ever since. He has only recently started doing a very gentle > form of meditation called Vipisana which is only calming to him. So I > feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to cause > us to fight over something I feel is important and on the other hand > I don't want to do things in secret either. So, I don't know what the > point of my telling you this is, other than to put it out there and > make you aware. I guess I may not be on as much as I have been but I > won't quit it either...and I WILL help with DenDen's healing > incursion! I know I'm not the only one here with a spouse > diametrically opposed to their path. And because I love him and have > no other quarrel with him other than this, I will work with it > somehow. I guess I can ask for your prayers for the highest good here > for both of us. My path and his path. They are intertwined. > > Thanks for listening and you know I hold you all in my heart! > Valarie > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 Sorry to hear of your quandry Valarie. It must be very difficult, especially with it being your mate. It sounds to me like pure fear talking. Have you offered for him to read the KAS website and Safeties? Of course there are many who are going through horrific awakening experiences, but they are most likely people without the wonderful guidance that we are given. Would he be willing to join the group and come talk to those of us that are going through this with you? Just a few thoughts. You are meant for this. There are challenges in all our lives and they serve different purposes and lessons. Somehow a way will be made. Big hug! Sarita , " Valarie Vousden " <vjvousden wrote: > > My husband broached the subject of the Kundalini posts, which he > happened to read a few of while I was away from the computer. This > initiated a lecture on gullibility, triviality within a serious > subject, actually a dangerous one and not something to toy with, end- > gaining and looking to others for solutions or experiences that are > most private and personal, not to be talked about because most times > there aren't even any words for it. Well, I do agree with the end- > gaining as in wanting to get from point A to point B. One should just > be and allow not " try " to make something happen or say " I'm HERE and > I really want to get THERE " . I couldn't convince him otherwise on the > dangers of it and the lack of help if something went horribly wrong. > He showed me one of the negative websites in opposition to the KAS1 > site. " It's not all happy clappy and NO one is an expert on this, no > one truly understands it. " he says. He's right and he's wrong. I know > what I feel but I know there are unknowns, too. I won't pretend I'm > an expert or that I understand all that can happen. I have only in > the last 3 or 4 months come to really surrender to the K without > reservation. But now this. He says he can't forbid me to follow this > (thank you very much!) but he is most disapproving and very, very > concerned for me. He has been interested in and dabbled in meditation > all his life. He went into Transcendental Meditation for a bit in his > late 20's and did experience an OBE while awake. He didn't know what > it was and it scared the holy shit out of him and he has been against > anything like that sort of thing that can lead to an altered state of > mind ever since. He has only recently started doing a very gentle > form of meditation called Vipisana which is only calming to him. So I > feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to cause > us to fight over something I feel is important and on the other hand > I don't want to do things in secret either. So, I don't know what the > point of my telling you this is, other than to put it out there and > make you aware. I guess I may not be on as much as I have been but I > won't quit it either...and I WILL help with DenDen's healing > incursion! I know I'm not the only one here with a spouse > diametrically opposed to their path. And because I love him and have > no other quarrel with him other than this, I will work with it > somehow. I guess I can ask for your prayers for the highest good here > for both of us. My path and his path. They are intertwined. > > Thanks for listening and you know I hold you all in my heart! > Valarie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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