Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Joe, since you are so new to our group it might be nice if you familiarize yourself with the methods used here. This is a unique group and has provided us with unique methods - that work. Please read the Safeties and the KAS1 website: http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/ It might help you to better understand the discussions we are having. Sarita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Dear Sarita:) I don't need to.I know those methods.I also have said that Chrism's method is valid,but don't come up to me with ,,Prayer breathing,,. This is pure pranayama,please research the raja yoga. It is thousands of years old.It uses the ,,will,, (right channel) to direct(by will) the flow of breath.Since attention is linked to ki,where your attention is,your ki will go.But this is not kundalini. This is my humble,opinion,of course,maybe you have more then 20 years of meditation and reaseach then I have,whom I am to say. Please be advised I am not here to direct you,I am here to observe,or learn about methods.not to contradict Crishm. So far I have not asked you about your methods,I see no wisdom in you recomending me your lousy methods..isn't is,Sarita?..When I ask you,then you recommend me. Thank you. love,Joe , " Sarita " <sarita1969 wrote: > > Joe, since you are so new to our group it might be nice if you > familiarize yourself with the methods used here. This is a unique > group and has provided us with unique methods - that work. > > Please read the Safeties and the KAS1 website: > > http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/ > > It might help you to better understand the discussions we are having. > > Sarita > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 First of all there is no need to be hurtful here. Or disrespectful. Let us please remember this. Joe your experience with meditation and Raja yoga and I am sure many other methods serves you well. Did you also contradict those teachers about their methods when you were learning of those techniques? Or did you take them for what was offered with respect and gratitude whether you agreed with all of the teaching or not. Because it doesn't qualify as " real " for you, for what ever reason why do you insist that it isn't real for others who have practiced it and are receiving benefit from it? Is it because it goes against your previous understandings? Because you call it one thing and others call it something different? You say Pranayama I say compression prayer who cares? Is this a reason to be hurtful? You seem to have very strong cemented views and ideas regarding what is and what isn't for your self. This is fine and works for you. That a technique is similar to another that you have practiced doesn't automatically - except for you - change that practice into an altered form of the practice you are familiar with. Your understandings and experiences may be different from mine and that is also OK. But because our experience isn't in lock step does that mean that we need to be disrespectful to each other and others here? You do not feel the " Compression Prayer " is valid. This is your choice. Please do not abrogate the choice of others to see it and use it as a valid way of practicing. You can call it Raja or whatever kind of yoga as you please. I designed it clear of any such influences and your debasements of it do not harm it. Your opinions of it only float your own agenda of what " YOU " feel is real and not. So it isn't real for you or effective for you. Fine. Neither are your assertions real or effective for others here. Fine. Your knowledge of the nadis and the chakras and of the paths of Kundalini is based in the Yogic literature it would seem. So I guarantee that may have issue with some of the practices that I espouse here. So have your issues but allow others to have their understandings free from your disrespect. This respect is being afforded you and your opinions so there you have it Joe. Please feel free to extend it to others as well. If anyone here is going to go into the " Flaming Mode " then I would advise that they take a breather and come back when they can be a contributor of knowledge preferably experiential knowledge. We have our own personal KALI and she will help you along this way if needed. lol and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 I would suggest that you look within Joe. Your attacks say much more about you than about our methods or suggestions and the tomato, tomatoe approach that you seem fond of. It is a very sad day indeed when we think that we know all and there is nothing left to learn. I will say a prayer for you that whatever is plaguing you be resolved. Perhaps you were led to us for that reason. Sarita , " joe357540 " <joe357540 wrote: > > > Dear Sarita:) > I don't need to.I know those methods.I also have said that Chrism's > method is valid,but don't come up to me with ,,Prayer breathing,,. > This is pure pranayama,please research the raja yoga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Man...let it go.There is NO such thing as compression prayer. I am sorry i hurt you for you are sticking to that name,even though I didn't say the practice is not valid.I said that the name is not valid...... That's all. And don't put me in raja or other yoga. I have explained I am a sahaja yogi,for god's sakes,Chrism. I have also explained I am here to observe,not to preach. And I also explined that your method is valid. Now leave me alone before you bann me,,Jessus!!..nuts like you should see a shrink,man!..I already said you are ok,but you still crack on me like a coyote on a cheesecake at midnight?.. http://kriptodanny.blogspot.com/ love,danny -- In , " chrism " <> wrote: > > First of all there is no need to be hurtful here. Or disrespectful. > Let us please remember this. > > Joe your experience with meditation and Raja yoga and I am sure many > other methods serves you well. Did you also contradict those > teachers about their methods when you were learning of those > techniques? Or did you take them for what was offered with respect > and gratitude whether you agreed with all of the teaching or not. > > Because it doesn't qualify as " real " for you, for what ever reason > why do you insist that it isn't real for others who have practiced > it and are receiving benefit from it? Is it because it goes against > your previous understandings? Because you call it one thing and > others call it something different? You say Pranayama I say > compression prayer who cares? Is this a reason to be hurtful? > > You seem to have very strong cemented views and ideas regarding what > is and what isn't for your self. This is fine and works for you. > That a technique is similar to another that you have practiced > doesn't automatically - except for you - change that practice into > an altered form of the practice you are familiar with. > > Your understandings and experiences may be different from mine and > that is also OK. But because our experience isn't in lock step does > that mean that we need to be disrespectful to each other and others > here? > > You do not feel the " Compression Prayer " is valid. This is your > choice. Please do not abrogate the choice of others to see it and > use it as a valid way of practicing. You can call it Raja or > whatever kind of yoga as you please. I designed it clear of any such > influences and your debasements of it do not harm it. Your opinions > of it only float your own agenda of what " YOU " feel is real and not. > So it isn't real for you or effective for you. Fine. Neither are > your assertions real or effective for others here. Fine. > > Your knowledge of the nadis and the chakras and of the paths of > Kundalini is based in the Yogic literature it would seem. So I > guarantee that may have issue with some of the practices that I > espouse here. So have your issues but allow others to have their > understandings free from your disrespect. > > This respect is being afforded you and your opinions so there you > have it Joe. Please feel free to extend it to others as well. If > anyone here is going to go into the " Flaming Mode " then I would > advise that they take a breather and come back when they can be a > contributor of knowledge preferably experiential knowledge. We have > our own personal KALI and she will help you along this way if > needed. lol and > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 So far, you haven't done much observing. For one who claims so much knowledge, I am disappointed. Your juvenile remarks speak more clearly of you than your self proclaimed experience and knowledge. Kindly watch your mouth before you are asked to leave this group. It is very bad manners to come into someone else's home and behave in such a way. Sarita , " joe357540 " <joe357540 wrote: > > Man...let it go.There is NO such thing as compression prayer. > I am sorry i hurt you for you are sticking to that name,even though I > didn't say the practice is not valid.I said that the name is not > valid...... > That's all. > And don't put me in raja or other yoga. > I have explained I am a sahaja yogi,for god's sakes,Chrism. > I have also explained I am here to observe,not to preach. > And I also explined that your method is valid. > Now leave me alone before you bann me,,Jessus!!..nuts like you should > see a shrink,man!..I already said you are ok,but you still crack on me > like a coyote on a cheesecake at midnight?.. > http://kriptodanny.blogspot.com/ > love,danny > > > -- In , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > First of all there is no need to be hurtful here. Or disrespectful. > > Let us please remember this. > > > > Joe your experience with meditation and Raja yoga and I am sure many > > other methods serves you well. Did you also contradict those > > teachers about their methods when you were learning of those > > techniques? Or did you take them for what was offered with respect > > and gratitude whether you agreed with all of the teaching or not. > > > > Because it doesn't qualify as " real " for you, for what ever reason > > why do you insist that it isn't real for others who have practiced > > it and are receiving benefit from it? Is it because it goes against > > your previous understandings? Because you call it one thing and > > others call it something different? You say Pranayama I say > > compression prayer who cares? Is this a reason to be hurtful? > > > > You seem to have very strong cemented views and ideas regarding what > > is and what isn't for your self. This is fine and works for you. > > That a technique is similar to another that you have practiced > > doesn't automatically - except for you - change that practice into > > an altered form of the practice you are familiar with. > > > > Your understandings and experiences may be different from mine and > > that is also OK. But because our experience isn't in lock step does > > that mean that we need to be disrespectful to each other and others > > here? > > > > You do not feel the " Compression Prayer " is valid. This is your > > choice. Please do not abrogate the choice of others to see it and > > use it as a valid way of practicing. You can call it Raja or > > whatever kind of yoga as you please. I designed it clear of any such > > influences and your debasements of it do not harm it. Your opinions > > of it only float your own agenda of what " YOU " feel is real and not. > > So it isn't real for you or effective for you. Fine. Neither are > > your assertions real or effective for others here. Fine. > > > > Your knowledge of the nadis and the chakras and of the paths of > > Kundalini is based in the Yogic literature it would seem. So I > > guarantee that may have issue with some of the practices that I > > espouse here. So have your issues but allow others to have their > > understandings free from your disrespect. > > > > This respect is being afforded you and your opinions so there you > > have it Joe. Please feel free to extend it to others as well. If > > anyone here is going to go into the " Flaming Mode " then I would > > advise that they take a breather and come back when they can be a > > contributor of knowledge preferably experiential knowledge. We have > > our own personal KALI and she will help you along this way if > > needed. lol and > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 I claim so much? Why you pick on me?..because I stand by my idea that ,,compression prayer,, is not Chrism's invention/discovery?.. Tha's it? The ,,compression prayer,, thing? sarita..I am a mahayogi.If the compression-nonsense prayer is my doom,so it will be yours.because I didn't say it was not valid,I said(nuts like you should see a shrink) I said don't invent stuff. Otherwise,I agreed with chriem,but he got on me like a coyote on the cheesecake just because I didn't like the name,,compression prayer,,.. Be aware that I am a mahayogi,and any war with me on any planes with not be fun,dear.. And if you don't believe me,jsut trust me. love,danny , " Sarita " <sarita1969 wrote: > > So far, you haven't done much observing. For one who claims so much > knowledge, I am disappointed. Your juvenile remarks speak more > clearly of you than your self proclaimed experience and knowledge. > > Kindly watch your mouth before you are asked to leave this group. It > is very bad manners to come into someone else's home and behave in > such a way. > > Sarita > > , " joe357540 " > <joe357540@> wrote: > > > > Man...let it go.There is NO such thing as compression prayer. > > I am sorry i hurt you for you are sticking to that name,even > though I > > didn't say the practice is not valid.I said that the name is not > > valid...... > > That's all. > > And don't put me in raja or other yoga. > > I have explained I am a sahaja yogi,for god's sakes,Chrism. > > I have also explained I am here to observe,not to preach. > > And I also explined that your method is valid. > > Now leave me alone before you bann me,,Jessus!!..nuts like you > should > > see a shrink,man!..I already said you are ok,but you still crack on > me > > like a coyote on a cheesecake at midnight?.. > > http://kriptodanny.blogspot.com/ > > love,danny > > > > > > -- In , " chrism " > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > First of all there is no need to be hurtful here. Or > disrespectful. > > > Let us please remember this. > > > > > > Joe your experience with meditation and Raja yoga and I am sure > many > > > other methods serves you well. Did you also contradict those > > > teachers about their methods when you were learning of those > > > techniques? Or did you take them for what was offered with > respect > > > and gratitude whether you agreed with all of the teaching or not. > > > > > > Because it doesn't qualify as " real " for you, for what ever > reason > > > why do you insist that it isn't real for others who have > practiced > > > it and are receiving benefit from it? Is it because it goes > against > > > your previous understandings? Because you call it one thing and > > > others call it something different? You say Pranayama I say > > > compression prayer who cares? Is this a reason to be hurtful? > > > > > > You seem to have very strong cemented views and ideas regarding > what > > > is and what isn't for your self. This is fine and works for you. > > > That a technique is similar to another that you have practiced > > > doesn't automatically - except for you - change that practice > into > > > an altered form of the practice you are familiar with. > > > > > > Your understandings and experiences may be different from mine > and > > > that is also OK. But because our experience isn't in lock step > does > > > that mean that we need to be disrespectful to each other and > others > > > here? > > > > > > You do not feel the " Compression Prayer " is valid. This is your > > > choice. Please do not abrogate the choice of others to see it and > > > use it as a valid way of practicing. You can call it Raja or > > > whatever kind of yoga as you please. I designed it clear of any > such > > > influences and your debasements of it do not harm it. Your > opinions > > > of it only float your own agenda of what " YOU " feel is real and > not. > > > So it isn't real for you or effective for you. Fine. Neither are > > > your assertions real or effective for others here. Fine. > > > > > > Your knowledge of the nadis and the chakras and of the paths of > > > Kundalini is based in the Yogic literature it would seem. So I > > > guarantee that may have issue with some of the practices that I > > > espouse here. So have your issues but allow others to have their > > > understandings free from your disrespect. > > > > > > This respect is being afforded you and your opinions so there you > > > have it Joe. Please feel free to extend it to others as well. If > > > anyone here is going to go into the " Flaming Mode " then I would > > > advise that they take a breather and come back when they can be a > > > contributor of knowledge preferably experiential knowledge. We > have > > > our own personal KALI and she will help you along this way if > > > needed. lol and > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Oh my, another trumpet blower! lol! Hello Joe. This community is a very loving and tolerant one if you can find your way to that vibration. BTW I am a Goddess of Light, I think I outrank you. Love and hugs, dhyana , " joe357540 " <joe357540 wrote: > > I claim so much? > Why you pick on me?..because I stand by my idea that ,,compression > prayer,, is not Chrism's invention/discovery?.. > Tha's it? > The ,,compression prayer,, thing? > sarita..I am a mahayogi.If the compression-nonsense prayer is my > doom,so it will be yours.because I didn't say it was not valid,I > said(nuts like you should see a shrink) I said don't invent stuff. > Otherwise,I agreed with chriem,but he got on me like a coyote on the > cheesecake just because I didn't like the name,,compression prayer,,.. > Be aware that I am a mahayogi,and any war with me on any planes with > not be fun,dear.. > And if you don't believe me,jsut trust me. > love,danny > > > , " Sarita " > <sarita1969@> wrote: > > > > So far, you haven't done much observing. For one who claims so much > > knowledge, I am disappointed. Your juvenile remarks speak more > > clearly of you than your self proclaimed experience and knowledge. > > > > Kindly watch your mouth before you are asked to leave this group. It > > is very bad manners to come into someone else's home and behave in > > such a way. > > > > Sarita > > > > , " joe357540 " > > <joe357540@> wrote: > > > > > > Man...let it go.There is NO such thing as compression prayer. > > > I am sorry i hurt you for you are sticking to that name,even > > though I > > > didn't say the practice is not valid.I said that the name is not > > > valid...... > > > That's all. > > > And don't put me in raja or other yoga. > > > I have explained I am a sahaja yogi,for god's sakes,Chrism. > > > I have also explained I am here to observe,not to preach. > > > And I also explined that your method is valid. > > > Now leave me alone before you bann me,,Jessus!!..nuts like you > > should > > > see a shrink,man!..I already said you are ok,but you still crack on > > me > > > like a coyote on a cheesecake at midnight?.. > > > http://kriptodanny.blogspot.com/ > > > love,danny > > > > > > > > > -- In , " chrism " > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > First of all there is no need to be hurtful here. Or > > disrespectful. > > > > Let us please remember this. > > > > > > > > Joe your experience with meditation and Raja yoga and I am sure > > many > > > > other methods serves you well. Did you also contradict those > > > > teachers about their methods when you were learning of those > > > > techniques? Or did you take them for what was offered with > > respect > > > > and gratitude whether you agreed with all of the teaching or not. > > > > > > > > Because it doesn't qualify as " real " for you, for what ever > > reason > > > > why do you insist that it isn't real for others who have > > practiced > > > > it and are receiving benefit from it? Is it because it goes > > against > > > > your previous understandings? Because you call it one thing and > > > > others call it something different? You say Pranayama I say > > > > compression prayer who cares? Is this a reason to be hurtful? > > > > > > > > You seem to have very strong cemented views and ideas regarding > > what > > > > is and what isn't for your self. This is fine and works for you. > > > > That a technique is similar to another that you have practiced > > > > doesn't automatically - except for you - change that practice > > into > > > > an altered form of the practice you are familiar with. > > > > > > > > Your understandings and experiences may be different from mine > > and > > > > that is also OK. But because our experience isn't in lock step > > does > > > > that mean that we need to be disrespectful to each other and > > others > > > > here? > > > > > > > > You do not feel the " Compression Prayer " is valid. This is your > > > > choice. Please do not abrogate the choice of others to see it and > > > > use it as a valid way of practicing. You can call it Raja or > > > > whatever kind of yoga as you please. I designed it clear of any > > such > > > > influences and your debasements of it do not harm it. Your > > opinions > > > > of it only float your own agenda of what " YOU " feel is real and > > not. > > > > So it isn't real for you or effective for you. Fine. Neither are > > > > your assertions real or effective for others here. Fine. > > > > > > > > Your knowledge of the nadis and the chakras and of the paths of > > > > Kundalini is based in the Yogic literature it would seem. So I > > > > guarantee that may have issue with some of the practices that I > > > > espouse here. So have your issues but allow others to have their > > > > understandings free from your disrespect. > > > > > > > > This respect is being afforded you and your opinions so there you > > > > have it Joe. Please feel free to extend it to others as well. If > > > > anyone here is going to go into the " Flaming Mode " then I would > > > > advise that they take a breather and come back when they can be a > > > > contributor of knowledge preferably experiential knowledge. We > > have > > > > our own personal KALI and she will help you along this way if > > > > needed. lol and > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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