Guest guest Posted November 23, 2007 Report Share Posted November 23, 2007 Dear Glen, List and Chrism, I have an important question later on in this email. Glen, I am taking every word of this post as my Bible right now, and as I read about the Sulphur, I realized that Esalen hot springs is a sulphur hot springs, so maybe I will invest in a weekend there and not leave the tubs...stink these entities away from me. I am going to try the garlic rub...especially before bed so I can shower it off in the morning and they will let me on the bus in the morning, lol Chrism, over the next few weeks, I will compile a list of the entity ward off techniques in a better format so you can keep it for the list and others who struggle with it. The epsom salts have been the most effective so far, as well as a sprayer bottle with a combo combo of red thyme and oregano essential oil mixed in rubbing alcohol...this is also boosting my immune system and cleaning my bood at the same time, lol. However, it is very time consuming, I am continuously spraying, and they still haven't gotten the message that I am not their home. I am just less trashed with their junk, they have kind of treated my body like a trash bin (part of their " game " with me has been to create something I can feel in my body and knowing it bothers me, like floating an energy layer of my lungs or organs in my throat, watch me try to clear it...I gave up trying after a certain point, since I didn't want to feed their attention game, and until the epsom salts, got used to feeling trashed). Some of what they do would be laughable, if it wasn't causing me so much disruption in my functioning and health. Like cartoon children with a zero IQ and a bunch of anvils. Because of the frequency I am doing the burns and spraying, I am in less pain, have a bit more mental space, and am under attack less (I say less because it was really insanely 24/7 for a long time...now it is less but still daily...last night they tried to infect me with my brothers virus and my 93 year old grandma's diseases as well as the energy from her drugs mixed with her own vibration...this while disgusting because it is so malicious has sort of become normal to me...well, they also haven't succeeded yet in giving me a disease even though they did succeed in giving me a virus a few times, this still scares me -- I take good care of myself in general, but now I have to live an even cleaner somewhat paranoid yogic lifestyle with good immune system support and lots of supplementation). ***I am wondering from Glen and and others what your insight is about this*** The entities attached to me don't seem like your regular entities. Their are about 3 to 6 " species " of these astral beings, and they seem to live in something called an " astral field " ...however somehow they have attached to my body and became very invested in staying and moving to the physical plane (as best as they could)...also to the center of my mind or brain. Their are 3 or so types of them that seem to call themselves Celestial Beings, and really mean me no harm, and claim to work with humans in some way. They aren't all attacking me, and some really want to go, and want me to be OK, and also don't want to be cleared by the epsom burns repeatedly. But the astral fields they live in seem to be connected in a band, and the helpful or benign beings can't seem to move away because of the lower consciousness ones that are trying to kill me and at the same time stay " permanently " attached to my mind (they are insane really in the sense of no reasoning capacity -- i.e. they want to move to the physical plane, but hate the smells and pollution and chemicals/they want to " permanently " attach to my mind/body and pretend to play a role in my life but they also want to kill me which would mean no more " permanent " attachment....like I said, they have no sense or sanity). They ALL seem to be dislocated and on the wrong plane -- all of them are, the whole " band " or " fields " including the ones that don't want to harm me...However, the lower consciousness ones that are acting like entities keep trying to create " permanent " war against me, and forming very complicated attachments to the center of my brain and nervous system (not my legs or feet). They keep trying to animate my body and " possess " me, infiltrate my nervous system hardwiring, and have majorly messed with the way I experience certain mental functions like my object relations (my sense of people I know when I feel them in my body while I am thinking of them is totally dislocated and altered), I received thoughts and memories as if they are coming from a spirit being and delivered like a little picture to my third eye, etc. They have really majorly messed with my energetic or spirit level mental anatomy...I know it is not permanent, but it is really very complicated what they have done to stay attached. I have had no success in undoing this. They are clearly conscious enough to find these complex ways of messing with my energy anatomy, third eye and waging war on my body...but they are insane enough to create complicated messes that even they can't get out of when they don't want to get cleared or warded off. I am confused. I really don't know how to relate to this. I have been mentally, emotionally and spiritually strong most of my adult life, am great with reality testing, and I did not have a nervous breakdown, I wasn't inviting spirit contact with forms of magic or esoteric practices...I also have strong ethics and love for myself and others...so I can't account for why this is happening, or how they got to me - how they found me or were permitted to enter my field. I always believed that on the spirit level, we have somatic sovereignty, can kick out what we don't consent to house or channel...and have a spiritual right to defend our bodies/physical space. I guess I am stunned that just knowing this hasn't resulted in them going. It is more like a cancer in this sense...I am having to fight it off. I have transcended alot of fear (I am not a total rock), so I don't think my emotional balance is drawing them to me. I am of service to others, love the planet and want to be here. I don't know what I am supposed to get about this. Many seem hell bent on staying and harming, and also don't seem to know where or how to go besides being totally attached to me. Maybe they think killing me will allow them to separate from me...but they can separate from me without killing me. They don't belong here. You would think that the amount of energy I have invested in clearing them, they would have gotten the message by now. Maybe it is a cumulative message? Maybe I will just have to invest a couple months in constant clearing practices such as the garlic, epsom salts, sulphur, aromatherapy, sage, and regular visits to the shaman for clearing...and then see if they will finally give up. I am also praying that whatever I am supposed to learn from this happen quickly...if there is something I can learn that will facilitate them going. From what I am writing, are these beings actually entities, or are they acting like them for some reason? Since they mostly connect to the center of my brain and my nervous system, and not my legs, and there are so many types of them? Is this something else other than a total entity invasion since there are so many types involved, and many of them don't want to " permanently " attach to my body or mind. Regardless of what they are, I am better off now that I have the epsom salts, and they don't belong here, and I have truth on my side, so I have a lot more faith. Thanks, Laura On Nov 23, 2007 8:08 PM, Glen Olah <gleno wrote: > > > > > Elektra your intuition has once again proven itself precise. You are > balancing in so many areas and your discernation is becoming > increasingly honed. imho. > > It is the sulphur in the garlic that is so disagreeable. So as you say > the odour must be exceedingly pungent. Lots of thinly sliced cloves > both rubbed in the skin and scattered in plates in the vicinity. A few > cloves dangling around ones neck will make no difference at all. > Especially as it is through the feet that entities (of all types) > create attachments. Ultimately the attachment might correlate with any > energetic point on the body but initially the connection is created by > an attack launched through the feet and lower legs. > > Usually one can find evidence of attachment points in the form of > various types of skin blemishes. These do not directly relate to the > attachment point as it is the bioenergetic body that they are > connecting to. To use an example it can be likened to a laser passing > through a surface to connect with another energy source on the other > side. Gradually evidence would begin to show as a discoloration or > marking of the surface in the area where the laser passes through. > Different laser types and strengths would determine how the surface > might be affected. So it is with a discarnate attachment. > > If I may suggest Laura I feel a pungent mix of strong garlic blended > with sorbolene cream might be of assistance in keeping the critters at > bay. Also surround yourself with running water (when possible). This > will not help for entities who have already attached but it will stop > in their tracks any others who wish to attack. > > Their motivation for attack is to attempt to create permanent > connections. Their motivation for a permanent connection is to access > the prana (life energy of this dimension). They will also attack to > feed off the kundalini energy of an individual entering into these > areas. To mount an attack requires huge amounts of energy from an > entity. They will soon tire of attacking (and leave to pursue easier > targets) if every attack is thwarted. > > Ultimately your frequency will begin to lift and all current > attachments will fall away and entities will find you " out of reach " . > Though by that time you will be able to feel them at will - if you > choose. And when that occurs it will not be on their terms! > > Some of what I have written you will find similar on the Astral > Dynamics web site although it is more a case of our experiential > findings corresponding. I make it a habit these days of only offering > advice based on my own experience. 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Guest guest Posted November 24, 2007 Report Share Posted November 24, 2007 Hello Laura. Firstly as for your question; " From what I am writing, are these beings actually entities, or are they acting like them for some reason? Since they mostly connect to the center of my brain and my nervous system, and not my legs, and there are so many types of them? " It's difficult to call a spade a spade since first one must find a spade. But an entity can be any form of discarnate consciousness so they are easily classified. LOL. Normally the sulphur (and Epsom salt as you have discovered) and rock salt in large quantities and other specific essential oils will " keep them at bay " or make them leave for a while, or maybe leave for good after prolonged usage. It is apparent this is not the case with your affliction. The entities appear to be intrinsically attached (within your proximity) to the extent that they cannot even temporarily retreat to escape these disagreeable combinations. Evidence of this is they are actually burnt when you introduce these chemical combinations within your combined space. Since they are actually suffering as result of you introducing these substances into " their " space they might eventually discover a way of severing the connection/attachment. Consciousness is nothing like our conscious mind. Our conscious perceptions are distilled and filtered then clouded then further limited after adjusting to the societal blueprint. Our entire viewpoint moulded to conform to our five sense perspective. Other consciousness has an entirely different set of limitations and perspectives. The frequency that a consciousness exists within is an indicator as to where that being is placed within its own spiritual development/evolution. These discarnates are feeding from your fears. By fears I do not necessarily imply those items you may be consciously fearful of. A more apt definition would be anything that isn't entirely love based. They do not understand nor attempt to interpret these images. These pictures and ideas that they pluck from your thoughts and memories are merely arsenal in their quest for a connection to be created. After the attachment has been created most types will contently feed off the energies provided. This could be prana or kundalini energies or others. Some have a sexually based order of business. And there are other entities as you are aware who have more insidious agendas. For some it may be the energies of our consciousness exuding its darker (fearful) aspects. This can be seen in cases of individuals enduring possession, or who may be under the influence of drugs (hence opening to other influence), performing uncharacteristically abhorrent acts. This can be interpreted as a wearing down of the mental faculties to the extent a physical control can be exuded. So be mindful of your thoughts and where they originate. If an idea or image feels foreign then it probably is. Do not allow yourself to dwell on it. Eventually your strength of discernation will improve to the extent that you will confidentially feel as though you own the direction of your thoughts again. I know you feel as though your mind is your own now but the fact remains that all of their actions against you are born within your own subconscious. This is why you interpret their motive as attachment within your brain. As you exercise this " mind control " LOL you will see patterns emerging as they only have a limited set of offensive techniques. Keep in mind they do not have a carnatus (flesh body) intelligence. The reality is they do not understand nor cannot hope to interpret our thoughts or memories (nor us theirs). The backdoor is left open creating the avenue to connection when they instinctually create the scenario for attachment to occur. This is all instinct and your unique experience will be reflected by your own thoughts and memories, expectations and ego actions/reactions. Something else to consider is their encroachment into your space is via your (a) physical body and (b) mental (or emotional) body. So maybe a solution that reaches into both these areas is what is required. Thank you for your suggestion of compiling a list of the entity ward off techniques. This is an excellent idea Laura and will be of assistance to many I'm sure. love to you, glen o. , " L K " <spacegypsie wrote: > > Dear Glen, List and Chrism, > > I have an important question later on in this email. > > Glen, I am taking every word of this post as my Bible right now, and > as I read about the Sulphur, I realized that Esalen hot springs is a > sulphur hot springs, so maybe I will invest in a weekend there and not > leave the tubs...stink these entities away from me. I am going to try > the garlic rub...especially before bed so I can shower it off in the > morning and they will let me on the bus in the morning, lol > > Chrism, over the next few weeks, I will compile a list of the entity > ward off techniques in a better format so you can keep it for the list > and others who struggle with it. > > The epsom salts have been the most effective so far, as well as a > sprayer bottle with a combo combo of red thyme and oregano essential > oil mixed in rubbing alcohol...this is also boosting my immune system > and cleaning my bood at the same time, lol. > > However, it is very time consuming, I am continuously spraying, and > they still haven't gotten the message that I am not their home. > > I am just less trashed with their junk, they have kind of treated my > body like a trash bin (part of their " game " with me has been to create > something I can feel in my body and knowing it bothers me, like > floating an energy layer of my lungs or organs in my throat, watch me > try to clear it...I gave up trying after a certain point, since I > didn't want to feed their attention game, and until the epsom salts, > got used to feeling trashed). > > Some of what they do would be laughable, if it wasn't causing me so > much disruption in my functioning and health. Like cartoon children > with a zero IQ and a bunch of anvils. > > Because of the frequency I am doing the burns and spraying, I am in > less pain, have a bit more mental space, and am under attack less (I > say less because it was really insanely 24/7 for a long time...now it > is less but still daily...last night they tried to infect me with my > brothers virus and my 93 year old grandma's diseases as well as the > energy from her drugs mixed with her own vibration...this while > disgusting because it is so malicious has sort of become normal to > me...well, they also haven't succeeded yet in giving me a disease even > though they did succeed in giving me a virus a few times, this still > scares me -- I take good care of myself in general, but now I have to > live an even cleaner somewhat paranoid yogic lifestyle with good > immune system support and lots of supplementation). > > ***I am wondering from Glen and and others what your insight is > about this*** > > The entities attached to me don't seem like your regular entities. > Their are about 3 to 6 " species " of these astral beings, and they seem > to live in something called an " astral field " ...however somehow they > have attached to my body and became very invested in staying and > moving to the physical plane (as best as they could)...also to the > center of my mind or brain. > > Their are 3 or so types of them that seem to call themselves Celestial > Beings, and really mean me no harm, and claim to work with humans in > some way. They aren't all attacking me, and some really want to go, > and want me to be OK, and also don't want to be cleared by the epsom > burns repeatedly. But the astral fields they live in seem to be > connected in a band, and the helpful or benign beings can't seem to > move away because of the lower consciousness ones that are trying to > kill me and at the same time stay " permanently " attached to my mind > (they are insane really in the sense of no reasoning capacity -- i.e. > they want to move to the physical plane, but hate the smells and > pollution and chemicals/they want to " permanently " attach to my > mind/body and pretend to play a role in my life but they also want to > kill me which would mean no more " permanent " attachment....like I > said, they have no sense or sanity). > > They ALL seem to be dislocated and on the wrong plane -- all of them > are, the whole " band " or " fields " including the ones that don't want > to harm me...However, the lower consciousness ones that are acting > like entities keep trying to create " permanent " war against me, and > forming very complicated attachments to the center of my brain and > nervous system (not my legs or feet). They keep trying to animate my > body and " possess " me, infiltrate my nervous system hardwiring, and > have majorly messed with the way I experience certain mental functions > like my object relations (my sense of people I know when I feel them > in my body while I am thinking of them is totally dislocated and > altered), I received thoughts and memories as if they are coming from > a spirit being and delivered like a little picture to my third eye, > etc. > > They have really majorly messed with my energetic or spirit level > mental anatomy...I know it is not permanent, but it is really very > complicated what they have done to stay attached. I have had no > success in undoing this. > > They are clearly conscious enough to find these complex ways of > messing with my energy anatomy, third eye and waging war on my > body...but they are insane enough to create complicated messes that > even they can't get out of when they don't want to get cleared or > warded off. > > I am confused. I really don't know how to relate to this. > I have been mentally, emotionally and spiritually strong most of my > adult life, am great with reality testing, and I did not have a > nervous breakdown, I wasn't inviting spirit contact with forms of > magic or esoteric practices...I also have strong ethics and love for > myself and others...so I can't account for why this is happening, or > how they got to me - how they found me or were permitted to enter my > field. > > I always believed that on the spirit level, we have somatic > sovereignty, can kick out what we don't consent to house or > channel...and have a spiritual right to defend our bodies/physical > space. I guess I am stunned that just knowing this hasn't resulted in > them going. It is more like a cancer in this sense...I am having to > fight it off. > > I have transcended alot of fear (I am not a total rock), so I don't > think my emotional balance is drawing them to me. I am of service to > others, love the planet and want to be here. > > I don't know what I am supposed to get about this. Many seem hell > bent on staying and harming, and also don't seem to know where or how > to go besides being totally attached to me. Maybe they think killing > me will allow them to separate from me...but they can separate from me > without killing me. They don't belong here. > > You would think that the amount of energy I have invested in clearing > them, they would have gotten the message by now. > > Maybe it is a cumulative message? > Maybe I will just have to invest a couple months in constant clearing > practices such as the garlic, epsom salts, sulphur, aromatherapy, > sage, and regular visits to the shaman for clearing...and then see if > they will finally give up. I am also praying that whatever I am > supposed to learn from this happen quickly...if there is something I > can learn that will facilitate them going. > > From what I am writing, are these beings actually entities, or are > they acting like them for some reason? Since they mostly connect to > the center of my brain and my nervous system, and not my legs, and > there are so many types of them? > > Is this something else other than a total entity invasion since there > are so many types involved, and many of them don't want to > " permanently " attach to my body or mind. > > Regardless of what they are, I am better off now that I have the epsom > salts, and they don't belong here, and I have truth on my side, so I > have a lot more faith. > > Thanks, > Laura On Nov 23, 2007 8:08 PM, Glen Olah <gleno wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Elektra your intuition has once again proven itself precise. You are > > balancing in so many areas and your discernation is becoming > > increasingly honed. imho. > > > > It is the sulphur in the garlic that is so disagreeable. So as you say > > the odour must be exceedingly pungent. Lots of thinly sliced cloves > > both rubbed in the skin and scattered in plates in the vicinity. A few > > cloves dangling around ones neck will make no difference at all. > > Especially as it is through the feet that entities (of all types) > > create attachments. Ultimately the attachment might correlate with any > > energetic point on the body but initially the connection is created by > > an attack launched through the feet and lower legs. > > > > Usually one can find evidence of attachment points in the form of > > various types of skin blemishes. These do not directly relate to the > > attachment point as it is the bioenergetic body that they are > > connecting to. To use an example it can be likened to a laser passing > > through a surface to connect with another energy source on the other > > side. Gradually evidence would begin to show as a discoloration or > > marking of the surface in the area where the laser passes through. > > Different laser types and strengths would determine how the surface > > might be affected. So it is with a discarnate attachment. > > > > If I may suggest Laura I feel a pungent mix of strong garlic blended > > with sorbolene cream might be of assistance in keeping the critters at > > bay. Also surround yourself with running water (when possible). This > > will not help for entities who have already attached but it will stop > > in their tracks any others who wish to attack. > > > > Their motivation for attack is to attempt to create permanent > > connections. Their motivation for a permanent connection is to access > > the prana (life energy of this dimension). They will also attack to > > feed off the kundalini energy of an individual entering into these > > areas. To mount an attack requires huge amounts of energy from an > > entity. They will soon tire of attacking (and leave to pursue easier > > targets) if every attack is thwarted. > > > > Ultimately your frequency will begin to lift and all current > > attachments will fall away and entities will find you " out of reach " . > > Though by that time you will be able to feel them at will - if you > > choose. And when that occurs it will not be on their terms! > > > > Some of what I have written you will find similar on the Astral > > Dynamics web site although it is more a case of our experiential > > findings corresponding. I make it a habit these days of only offering > > advice based on my own experience. And this is one area in which I can > > advise through experience... > > > > love to you Laura and Elektra. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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