Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Yes they can typically blow right through many protections. No bubbles or circles or prayers(prayers can make it even worse) or colors or spells, incantations, will be able to always assure one of the departure or protect one from an eventual encounter or series of encounters. Sometimes they " need " to be experienced and the person is given the experience. It isnt always this way for everyone. Some never see or feel an entity. Many do though and this is why I mention it yet again on this forum. Do not fear this but see it as another opportunity to learn how the Kundalini manifests in a persons life. The entities are an aspect of the energetic environment. They are there and there is no getting around that. -lol No worries all is good and your experiences based on your choices will reflect that. - blessings Sarita - chrism , " Sarita " <sarita1969 wrote: > > Does this mean that even if we use psychic protection (such as a > bubble of white light) we are still open to entities? Does everyone > go through this or is it an individual thing? > > Sarita > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > The entities can often be felt when a person has reached a > specific > > level of upgrade with in the Kundalini infusion. It is best to not > > be fearful and yet the large majority of those who experience > > entities go straight into fear - I did as well. > > > > They will move objects or come into your body. Not all of them are > > negative some are neutral and are doing a job of what can only be > > described as a pollination of the individuals energetic expression. > > This is my own analogy and I do not expect others to necessarily > see > > it that way. > > > > These neutral entities will feel as if they are fizzing around and > > they will not be easy to get rid of. In fact they are not too be > > gotten rid of. They are another aspect of the many compressed tests > > that the Kundalini experience has to offer and of the many choices > > of how we wish to experience these tests that are given. > > > > Not everyone has these kinds of tests, but enough do that I feel it > > is appropriate to respond to some of the ways that I was able to > > adjust in order to survive somewhat intact. > > > > I submerged my self in cold mountain streams in order to clear > > myself of certain entities. I have submerged others to have the > > natural current of the mountain waters cleanse a person of issues > > that were of an extreme nature. > > > > I have used the ocean in similar ways. I have used the natural > > environment of the earth as well as that of the body to engender > > surrender and an openness to what is needed for the balance of the > > many forces going through change in the infusing person. Standing > > under a waterfall is also good, the colder the better. These will > > not work for everyone but perhaps for some they will. > > > > And I have also halted a practice completely. No praying, no > > meditation, no Pranayama or energetic breathing. This is one of the > > techniques I used when the entities became a bit much for me in my > > earlier experience. Please remember Kundalini never goes away. It > is > > there for life. Your practice of certain exercises can bring too > > much of a certain frequency of energy into the system and when this > > occurs entities can come to feed off of that excess energy. > > > > Stopping the practice can achieve a balance as well as grow the > > expression! By not practicing one can achieve more than what one > > would by practicing! Its taking the conscious initiative out of the > > picture and allowing the natural functions of " Shakti in the body " > > to hold sway. > > > > I found that when I completely stopped all aspects of a practice, > > for a period of time, that entity interactions would fall off or > > outright cease to occur. So another option for those struggling > with > > this aspect of the Kundalini. There is nothing that is going wrong > > when entities come to call. We do not like them as it is a foreign > > experience and there are those that do have a negative valence and > > are there to hurt. Like people some are being good and some are not. > > > > Your choices will help you to determine the level of comfort that > > you experience. I struggled at first and then gave way to the > > experience as a part of the infusion and learning's needed for the > > level of Kundalini I was experiencing at the time. I suggest that > if > > you have this occur - do not panic, do not fear. Knowledge is power > > and you have the knowledge and there fore the power to balance > > inside of this type of an experience. > > > > See and feel what is going on. Experience it with an open mind and > > try some of the techniques I have described - but only if needed. > > Realize that we as limited sense beings do not have the whole > > picture when it comes to the Kundalini experience and that as > > personalities we will try to control something that may not obey > are > > desires for control. > > When that occurs we can perhaps see the hand of Shakti helping us > in > > ways that we cannot yet realize, but helping none the less. - > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 I have found that in my experience integration ( a way for me to get along better with them) is best, even negative ones (believe it or not) have offered me lessons, even if it has been not only to gain strength and character, but also compassion. Not all is as it seems. And fear only keeps one from the valuable lessons. chrism <> wrote: Yes they can typically blow right through many protections. No bubbles or circles or prayers(prayers can make it even worse) or colors or spells, incantations, will be able to always assure one of the departure or protect one from an eventual encounter or series of encounters. Sometimes they " need " to be experienced and the person is given the experience. It isnt always this way for everyone. Some never see or feel an entity. Many do though and this is why I mention it yet again on this forum. Do not fear this but see it as another opportunity to learn how the Kundalini manifests in a persons life. The entities are an aspect of the energetic environment. They are there and there is no getting around that. -lol No worries all is good and your experiences based on your choices will reflect that. - blessings Sarita - chrism , " Sarita " <sarita1969 wrote: > > Does this mean that even if we use psychic protection (such as a > bubble of white light) we are still open to entities? Does everyone > go through this or is it an individual thing? > > Sarita > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > The entities can often be felt when a person has reached a > specific > > level of upgrade with in the Kundalini infusion. It is best to not > > be fearful and yet the large majority of those who experience > > entities go straight into fear - I did as well. > > > > They will move objects or come into your body. Not all of them are > > negative some are neutral and are doing a job of what can only be > > described as a pollination of the individuals energetic expression. > > This is my own analogy and I do not expect others to necessarily > see > > it that way. > > > > These neutral entities will feel as if they are fizzing around and > > they will not be easy to get rid of. In fact they are not too be > > gotten rid of. They are another aspect of the many compressed tests > > that the Kundalini experience has to offer and of the many choices > > of how we wish to experience these tests that are given. > > > > Not everyone has these kinds of tests, but enough do that I feel it > > is appropriate to respond to some of the ways that I was able to > > adjust in order to survive somewhat intact. > > > > I submerged my self in cold mountain streams in order to clear > > myself of certain entities. I have submerged others to have the > > natural current of the mountain waters cleanse a person of issues > > that were of an extreme nature. > > > > I have used the ocean in similar ways. I have used the natural > > environment of the earth as well as that of the body to engender > > surrender and an openness to what is needed for the balance of the > > many forces going through change in the infusing person. Standing > > under a waterfall is also good, the colder the better. These will > > not work for everyone but perhaps for some they will. > > > > And I have also halted a practice completely. No praying, no > > meditation, no Pranayama or energetic breathing. This is one of the > > techniques I used when the entities became a bit much for me in my > > earlier experience. Please remember Kundalini never goes away. It > is > > there for life. Your practice of certain exercises can bring too > > much of a certain frequency of energy into the system and when this > > occurs entities can come to feed off of that excess energy. > > > > Stopping the practice can achieve a balance as well as grow the > > expression! By not practicing one can achieve more than what one > > would by practicing! Its taking the conscious initiative out of the > > picture and allowing the natural functions of " Shakti in the body " > > to hold sway. > > > > I found that when I completely stopped all aspects of a practice, > > for a period of time, that entity interactions would fall off or > > outright cease to occur. So another option for those struggling > with > > this aspect of the Kundalini. There is nothing that is going wrong > > when entities come to call. We do not like them as it is a foreign > > experience and there are those that do have a negative valence and > > are there to hurt. Like people some are being good and some are not. > > > > Your choices will help you to determine the level of comfort that > > you experience. I struggled at first and then gave way to the > > experience as a part of the infusion and learning's needed for the > > level of Kundalini I was experiencing at the time. I suggest that > if > > you have this occur - do not panic, do not fear. Knowledge is power > > and you have the knowledge and there fore the power to balance > > inside of this type of an experience. > > > > See and feel what is going on. Experience it with an open mind and > > try some of the techniques I have described - but only if needed. > > Realize that we as limited sense beings do not have the whole > > picture when it comes to the Kundalini experience and that as > > personalities we will try to control something that may not obey > are > > desires for control. > > When that occurs we can perhaps see the hand of Shakti helping us > in > > ways that we cannot yet realize, but helping none the less. - > > > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 At 03:06 AM 2/3/2008, you wrote: >Do not fear this but see it as another >opportunity to learn how the Kundalini manifests in a persons life. >The entities are an aspect of the energetic environment. They are >there and there is no getting around that. I think they are like people, they come in all varieties. There is an old book, made into an anime movie called " The Last Unicorn " which has a lot of hidden metaphysical wisdom in it. In one scene a harpy is chasing the unicorn and the magician she has just befriended. He wants to run in terror, but the unicorn tells him to walk away slowly, telling him " You must never run from anything immortal, it attracts their attention. " They walk slowly away and the harpy flies off frustrated, for she can't see them anymore. I think it was not long after that I read one of Robert Monroe's OOBE stories where essentially he said the same thing, that the more he struggled the more plagued he was by unpleasant entities. In my experience, the more fearful I was, the scarier they looked to me. As I grew to accept them, and not fear them, they went away for the most part. I rarely encounter them now, and most of them are positive and helpful ( " angels " ). Don't run away from an entity you come across. Fill yourself with as much love and positivity as you can and direct your attention elsewhere. Fear and flight will only draw these things closer to you. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 That was very beautifully put. There are also not so very nice beings that feed on that fear, and the energy that comes with it attracts them as you have said. Where once I was running in fear, I was also listening as another voice a calm teaching voice helped me out of fear. He simply stated " you feed them " I was led to meditation and Buddhism among other theories through the ones that were there to help and teach. I knew nothing of energies and other beings that lived around us and thought of them before as mere myth's. To place oneself in a calm manner is most helpful. Once I was pretty upset at having been " abused " from someone on the other side, and a very tiny voice came to me and said " Oh no one likes those kind " She was very sweet, and taught me that yes, just like humans their are other's there that people " avoid " (including the ones on the other side) just like the Deserata states.. Blessings to all, Laura > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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