What do you expect the Kundalini to give you?

[Guest guest]

What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

 

[Guest guest]

What do you expect to receive ?

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I seek Kundalini as the direct path to God, answering a deep longing

to return to truth and simplicity. I've wandered over both sides of

East and West - I've always wanted a personal god (West) but couldn't

figure how I could have one by depersonalising myself (East). I think

that Kundalini can help me see that there are no borders. Just God as

an enveloping force of love surrounding and subsuming every small and

large thing. Sweeping through and vaporising my personal agendas.

Once received, no longer a need to look up or seek focus on reference

points of God as Him/Her. Hopefully, self-perception will fade to a

colorless dot. Cultural labels and personal agendas will fade. Just

the Law of Love will remain........

 

- I'd like to see Kundalini transform me such that I can see how

transient is this grasp of mine on banked memories and on tired and

borrowed goals. For old timetables and plans to become featureless

seas of ego exclusion. But I'd like fun - lots of spinning Chakras -

eyes and ears delighting in the chaotic riches of sensory fulfilment

- no entities please !

 

- I'd like Kundalini to provide meditative detachment (thanks Deb) so

that I can dismiss mind as a kite billowing, surfing, sweeping,

arrowing, taking in all .. but at the end of its plays, devoid,

naked - an empty life-force - a duplicitous gaggle of gestures and

postures.

 

- I'd like Kundalini to displace the froth of illusion that is the

construct of my present life, for it to disperse over the edge of the

cup that houses my ego, allowing the intoxicating essence of the

underlay of truth to rush into the vacuum, contentment to sit

languidly and nurture the infusion into universal meaning.

 

 

Why do I aspire to expect it?

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From reading many of Chrism's Group postings, I see that Kundalini

treats most gently, those that are the simplest, have no pretence,

have buried their competitive instincts and bring no filters to their

understanding and acceptance ... but are just glowing with wide-eyed

wonder and innocence. I'm trying to go back there but it's an

awfully long journey ! Also a few thousand repetitions of the

Safeties !!

 

 

 

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Chrism asked: " Kundalini -what do you expect to receive and why do

you expect it? I would be interested in everyone's answer to this -

If you would indulge me. "

[Guest guest]

Hello, yes i am still here ...

 

I confess i do not really expect very much as i have not proven to be

a very talented or diligent soul so far. But some days when i stare

at pictures of the universe from NASA or the Hubble I have this

inexplicable longing for something I don't quite understand and i am

hoping that somewhere in my journey i will have this longing

fulfilled. And maybe if i work hard at kundalini it will be so. But i

do not have the right to expect this. And i don't know if i ever will

be comfortable in such expectation. Hope this makes sense. Thank you

for asking.

 

Love to you all

Reg

 

 

, " chrism "

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> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

 

>

>

[Guest guest]

What do I exepct to receive from the K?

 

I expect to receive that incredible love and light that is all encompasing

with knowledge and compassion for everything, that will lead to the ultimate

truth and conciousness, and have it dwell within me. I have searched many

religions for truth...but never found answers to all my quetions...never felt

the whole story was fully told or complete. When I found out about K, my search

ended...and a new path has begun. There is light at the end of the tunnel now.

I can feel the truth, the love, the compassion within the K. As Buddha said,

test everything for truth...this is the true path...the only path...the path of

love. Enlightenment would be a blessing. But at least an awakening is what I

seek to be able to learn more and give more...to ultimately be closer to God and

the Goddess...to be one with all for the betterment of all.

 

Why do I expect this?

 

Since i was a child I knew that I was different from others. I was more

sensitive, loving and understanding...I knew mine would be a different path. I

have given my love to all and helped and defended those around me. I have

always gone that extra mile for all and given compassion. I have suffered and

grown from that suffering to learn that God judges us by how we treat and love

others. I have always felt responsible for others and know that God has chosen

this path for me and this will happen. The power, energy and love is within me

to continue and complete this journey. I do not expect this...I know this is

going to happen...for the love has always dwelled within me. I have been

blessed and I am thankful for all the blessings and lessons that God and the

Goddess have given me!

 

Love to you all!

 

Scott

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

A deeper knowledge of myself, of Unconditional Love

and Divine Will.

I want to learn and master the alchemical process of

transformation and manifestation and use this

knowledge to serve humanity and God.

I want to work with the kundalini energy to build the

kingdom of heaven on Earth and do my part to raise the

vibration of the planet.

 

It's my journey HOME.

 

Love and gratitude

Elektra x x x

 

 

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Sent from Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.

[Guest guest]

I'm expecting to live a more serving life. One with more love and

higher guidance where I am following my highest path helping others in

a loving and joyful manner. I would like to move 'closer' to God, move

higher in my level of consciousness. I don't see it as being given

something, but more realizing what I am as I move into a more natural

partnership with divinity.

 

Hmm, why do I expect it? I know it's possible! I can see others around

me awakening, and I know it's real. It makes total sense to me to

follow this path. And it feels good... Knowing I am in a better

position to help myself and others live a joyful, peaceful life is a

great feeling.

 

lots of love everyone,

 

bradly

[Guest guest]

I like simplicity so in short I would like a union with God at the

highest vibration of light . Kundalini is my path to this union while

living these human experiences as a spirit of light . When the

physical body has lived its life , I would like to be at an evolved

spirit to remain on earth as light to guide and help others to find

their path to God .

 

Blessing

Chris_H

[Guest guest]

To be closer to God, work with God and become a better person.

 

Diane

[Guest guest]

For me it's best not to have expectations. I am trying to approach

this without the ego. I truly believe that when I receive the K it

will be a gift to be used for the betterment of people and the planet

and that God will guide me towards that. Someday's I get in the way

and this takes a lot of work but this is what I am working towards. I

do have a concern that I don't become obsessed and start focusing on

the phenomena so I am trying to be careful and remain grateful. I

think that all of us are different in that each person will receive

what they are meant to. Some will see sprits other may read minds,

some will heal others will lead and some will have all of these

gifts. All I know is that I need to remain grateful and work towards

being the best person I can be today. I have no idea what God's plan

for me is regarding the K but I do know that it's a gift that has

brought me closer to him and I feel very blessed. This was an

excellent question…

In Love and Faith

Laura Joyce

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " chrism "

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> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

 

>

>

[Guest guest]

Expectations can be dangerous... What I see that the Kundalini might

give me is myself, unlocking what is within me, and freeing me from

the limitations I now experience.

 

Love, dhyana

 

 

 

, " chrism "

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> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

>

>

[Guest guest]

for us it will be better;this is kundalini family;feel

joy,love,dream,heal;shine here..this is for universe;shakti;God..love it..it

will go on forever...love ali

 

2008/2/5, novalees <Novalees:

>

> Expectations can be dangerous... What I see that the Kundalini might

> give me is myself, unlocking what is within me, and freeing me from

> the limitations I now experience.

>

> Love, dhyana

>

> --- In

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> " chrism "

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> >

> > What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> > interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

> >

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

--

A.Arslan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I saw this post this morning before going to bed, but wanted to think

on it a while before replying. At a quick glance this morning I can see

most that have already replied have came close to the same conclusion

as me. I am replying before reading though, because I didn't want to

be influenced by what anyone else has said.

 

The way I see it, my main goal is to know God more fully, as much as

humanily possible. To me, Kundalini is a path I have been lead to by

the God source itself as a response to my desiring/longing to know, to

draw closer. I knew when I had read the safeties for the first time,

that I was in the right place, just where I needed to be. I have know

for a long time that service to others is also a mean to knowing God

more fully. Looking back over my life I can see that things have come

and gone in waves, reaching out, going within, reaching out, going

within, it's all been for the purpose of getting closer and to knowing,

experiencing God. To me, each person I meet...connect with is a golden

treasure given by the God source. Each and every person who has shared

a part of themselves with me, reveals to me a different facet of God

and is a special blessing, a gift for me, that then empowers me to

reach out and share with others from what I have recieved. Just being

here, connecting and getting to know all of you wonderful K activated

or awakened people is an honor and privilege, in which I am in deep

gratitude for, BTW.

 

I see Kundalini as a God given gift, a gift that will help me to become

a more effective vessel/temple of God. Kundalini is a step toward God

realization and is a means of empowering me for reaching out, to

helping others who are still struggling to find their way.

 

Love to you all,

Linda

 

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

>

>

[Guest guest]

Linda wish to write like your style some day..thinking same as you...love

ali

 

2008/2/5, Linda <crazycats711:

>

> I saw this post this morning before going to bed, but wanted to think

> on it a while before replying. At a quick glance this morning I can see

> most that have already replied have came close to the same conclusion

> as me. I am replying before reading though, because I didn't want to

> be influenced by what anyone else has said.

>

> The way I see it, my main goal is to know God more fully, as much as

> humanily possible. To me, Kundalini is a path I have been lead to by

> the God source itself as a response to my desiring/longing to know, to

> draw closer. I knew when I had read the safeties for the first time,

> that I was in the right place, just where I needed to be. I have know

> for a long time that service to others is also a mean to knowing God

> more fully. Looking back over my life I can see that things have come

> and gone in waves, reaching out, going within, reaching out, going

> within, it's all been for the purpose of getting closer and to knowing,

> experiencing God. To me, each person I meet...connect with is a golden

> treasure given by the God source. Each and every person who has shared

> a part of themselves with me, reveals to me a different facet of God

> and is a special blessing, a gift for me, that then empowers me to

> reach out and share with others from what I have recieved. Just being

> here, connecting and getting to know all of you wonderful K activated

> or awakened people is an honor and privilege, in which I am in deep

> gratitude for, BTW.

>

> I see Kundalini as a God given gift, a gift that will help me to become

> a more effective vessel/temple of God. Kundalini is a step toward God

> realization and is a means of empowering me for reaching out, to

> helping others who are still struggling to find their way.

>

> Love to you all,

> Linda

>

> --- In

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> " chrism "

> <> wrote:

> >

> > What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> > interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

> >

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

--

A.Arslan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I do not expect anything to be given to me per se. For me the

kundalini path has just evolved from my interactions with entities and

my search for answers. The moment I read the word kundalini for the

first time I was deeply moved emotionally to the degree I was unable

to read further for several weeks and then only a paragraph at a time.

There has never been a time when I consciously resolved to become

activated or decided to pursue k as a path. Rather the path chose me -

or was waiting for my choice.

 

Right Intent and Surrender have been the corner stones for my journey.

Unconditional love and the knowledge that all is good and everything

for a reason have provided the sense of security within my surrender.

 

I am merely following my God given birthright to progress in my

evolution. I could choose to pursue more egocentric desires (an easier

decision to make) but ultimately we all ascend. There are only our

choices and the implications thereof. And if those choices are for the

betterment of others then we sort of get swept along with it. I cannot

help but love others and will gladly step aside if I can assist

another within their evolution. And it just so happens that one cannot

honestly help another without helping themselves. It truly is a

wondrous universe.

[Guest guest]

Dear Chrism,

 

I have always known that God existed, but never thought that I was worthy enough

to be close to him as I am now. I thought that was only for others, maybe

classified as 'special people'. I thought that I could know Him from

afar...always dreamed and had strong desires to be close to Him, but never

thought I could. It wasn't really until I learned of the word Kundalini that I

learned that I could be close to God. When I joined this group, I found with joy

that not only could I learn to know God on a deeper level, but also be very

close to Him with hard work. Nothing should be given, but earned! Gifts come

from work such in this case loving others more intimately regardless who they

are, being able to forgive others and yourself regardless of what was done or

said, to be honest, truthful, to be able to give gratitude for all things both

good and bad. I always knew there was more to God than what I ever heard about

in church, but could never find the

answers to the questions I long desired to know. I want to be on an intimate

level with God, fully knowing him and doing what he wants me to while I am here

on this earth. I know that in order to do that I must act a certain way, not

because I have too, but because I want too. I want to give my service to others,

I want to love all people unconditionally, I want to be honest with myself and

those in my life and who pass through it, I want to walk in the footsteps of my

Jesus Christ. These actions that I have implemented into my life, the actions

known as the 'safeties' here on the group are a way to achieve my desire to know

God on an intimate level and live my life the way God intended me to. To be

filled with the Holy Spirit/Kundalini is a tremendous gift given to me. I have

learned to live a more loving life, to treat others with kindness and love,

respect and grace, to treat others the way I want to be treated. To help others

who need my help

regardless of who they are or where they come from. I don't expect anything

from Kundalini, but I am filled with gratitude to have the privilege of my

Kundalini awakened because it has helped me find myself, find who I truly am,

and to help me express it through so many ways! My favorites are love, kindness,

respect, and giving! Heck, in all ways! I have no favorites. This has to come

from within me, not Kundalini. It has to be something I want, I desire, not

Kundalini. I am grateful for K, I cherish my every moment of K because it is a

gift from God signifying his love for all mankind and that HE is a living

breathing part of each of us and all creation. Kundalini is a path of growth and

spirituality, a path that one must work at. Kundalini is apart of me and I give

all to K, but expect nothing in return, but am gratefully gratified for K's

presence.

Love,

Katherine

 

 

<>

 

Tuesday, February 5, 2008 3:58:33 AM

What do you expect the Kundalini to

give you?

 

What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

It is difficult to put into words the emotions that flow through me

when I experience, the touch and breath of the " Beloved " as Rumi

phrased it.

 

I was raised in a very fundemental Jehovah's Wittness home, and

believed I knew and understood the bible and what it meant. There

were times in the beginning when I was sure I was being chased by

demons, who " hated that book " when I later found that what he really

meant was my/our interpretation of it. When I understood what the

word " Gnosis " truly meant, I could see beyond the man's writing,

into the divine inspiration of it, and it's " hidden meaning. I also

found that there are many beliefs and paths that lead each person

into their own unique understanding of what and how the Divine

energy works and is. Constantly I have to remember " Once I did not

know " And my understanding may be different than someone else's. The

spirits that love and guide them, love them and understand them just

as much as the one's who love, understand and guide me.

 

I have said that I inadvertenly awakened my Kundalini, and

my " awakening " was brutal. It is often said that when spirit chooses

you, there are three ways out; insanity (not an option, and

certainly no way out) death or acceptance. I chose to accept and

learn as much as I could, and not run in fear of what was placed

before me. The spirits that have encircled my life had in fact saved

it, and changed the path I was on. In return I try to live a

balanced life with wiser choices. Once you know you cannot unknow..

 

This " Beloved " is my best friend, the one that is always there,

through the good or the bad times, teaching me, opening doorways and

perceptions to knowledge that is ancient, and sometimes appears to

be unique. Through " the others I have learned about goddesses/gods

and our ability to draw them in, learn from them and live side by

side. Its an exciting story!!!

 

What I have received is the unknowable.. But I do not expect it, I

am simply thankful that it is..

 

 

 

Blessings,

 

Laurangelic

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " chrism "

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>

> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge

me. -

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have had a number of false starts/near misses with the K over the

past 19 years, so my conclusion is that I was meant to be on this

path. I am hoping that I can live up to the standards of this sacred

energy. I hope to be used to help others and grow into the best me I

can be. I expect to be able to live my life as normally as possible

since I have a family to think about, but I don't expect any special

gifts to be bestowed on me other than those I can use to serve others

with.

 

Sarita

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi chrism

 

For me it seems really simple, I just want to get a

start of how to know, become aware of me, in my full

essence, for in knowing me, I will be able to help

others know themselves, so that we all realise the

individuality of ourselves and the oneness of all,

remembering the journey is the fun part whilst

maintaining focus on the almost incomprehension-able

(as I write this) destination of all truth.

 

As to why, maybe I am unfulfilled and have an

insatiable and unquenched thirst for knowledge of my

self, to know, to understand that which I do not

understand, which is me.

 

nick

 

 

--- chrism <> wrote:

 

> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect

> it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you

> would indulge me. -

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

To know the Divine within. . .

 

Love, Angelina

 

,

" laurashomefires " <laurashomefires wrote:

>

> For me it's best not to have expectations. I am trying to approach

> this without the ego. I truly believe that when I receive the K it

> will be a gift to be used for the betterment of people and the planet

> and that God will guide me towards that. Someday's I get in the way

> and this takes a lot of work but this is what I am working towards. I

> do have a concern that I don't become obsessed and start focusing on

> the phenomena so I am trying to be careful and remain grateful. I

> think that all of us are different in that each person will receive

> what they are meant to. Some will see sprits other may read minds,

> some will heal others will lead and some will have all of these

> gifts. All I know is that I need to remain grateful and work towards

> being the best person I can be today. I have no idea what God's plan

> for me is regarding the K but I do know that it's a gift that has

> brought me closer to him and I feel very blessed. This was an

> excellent question…

> In Love and Faith

> Laura Joyce

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

>

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> > interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

>

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I expect a transformation in my life... to go beyond the little " i " as you say.

I want find a way that is " right for me " to make a difference in this world and

to accomplish my higher purpose in this life, even though I know little of it as

of yet. I want these changes to become an ever present reality, so that others

that I know can also, in their own time, be transformed. 'not much to ask eh?

:-)

 

Blessings all

Paul

 

 

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What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I respect to the Kundalini as Divine.

I surrender and accept whatever it realizes in myself. I trust its wisdom

and positive quality. Therefore, I don't want to limit it or lost time by

requesting anything derived from something else. I only suppose to see the

wisdom and enlightenment in things whatever happened. After that, I gain the

knowledge. Once I gain the knowledge, I already don't need to aim it

anymore. Beyond this, I am not able to request anything I cannot know. It

means to me that I already own all things I need to. This is not static

case. If I need to move, I shall look at the things God already given, and

see and discover my needs to move to the next stage.

Love and regards

Cuneyt

 

On Feb 5, 2008 10:58 AM, chrism <> wrote:

 

> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I expect a lot and very little. K has already enhanced my healing

abilities a great deal, yet I believe it is only a key to the door of

enlightenment. Practice and due diligence are also necessary parts of

the equation.

Fashji

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well... I'm a bit new to all this so I don't know a whole lot about the

kundalini. But, so far with what I have experienced I think I'm in for

expecting a lot of things from within my shadow to surface from the

kundalini. In other words, I have no clue what to really expect to

receive into consciousness from the kundalini because my shadow

consists of a lot of things I am unaware of seeing in myself or reality

yet, so who knows whats going to really rise or be received. I do know

that these specific things surfacing will be coming in equally as being

good and bad.

 

 

I think I am more concerned about how my ego will take the kundalini

because currently my ego is still creating dualities. It still is

fantasizing over what I want, need, and desire. It likes to dwell into

things it is used to being around. It's our egos that get us to always

expect how we want or need things to be. We tend to polarize things by

expecting things because we tend to expect more on one side of the pole

then the other to take place which would end up resulting in a war

between opposites. So its always best to either a) expect nothing by

omitting the good and bad or b) expecting both good and bad things to

unfold.

 

I hope that makes sense.

 

It's easier said then done though, I'd have to keep repeating that over

to myself while going down this path...

 

Yah, I get a bit psychological sometimes lol.

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> What do you expect to receive and why to you expect it? I would be

> interested in everyones answer to this. - If you would indulge me. -

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is very good to read all of your responses to this question and I

invite you to read and re read these answers as they are all

appropriate and excellent statements with regard to how this group is

evolving.

 

You are all most gifted examples of those who have been led and chosen

to search and experience the Kundalini as it is discussed and

experienced here.

 

I thank you all for your teachings, as you have given them, in the

response to this question. -

[Guest guest]

I think " expect " is a strong word...closer to hope but after being here

10 months, I've moved from even that to just " wait and see " or you

could say " allowing " . I will accept whatever It/She wishes me to have,

which has already been an opening of myself to things I didn't even

know I was closed to. I am aware of it's presence now, I never had this

before. Insights are coming slowly. I think I hope to eventually have

the blinders/blinkers off and know more than the reality I have always

thought was all there was. I hope to be of service in everyway I can

without injury to myself (still a bit selfish about that one!). And

ultimatley, to merge or at least commune with the Divine.

 

There is much more I'm not thinking of right now...this is a very

complex subject. But for now, I'm happy allowing K to do whatever needs

to be done and I'm all for " slow " !!

 

Love to all,

Valarie