meditation method - comments

[Guest guest]

Thanks (Cuneyt, Elektra, cabalink) for comments.

 

I have been meditating over 30 years. Therefore it is not so much ASAP

to desire to get results. I have read the safeties and Gopi Krishna's

bio downloaded from the site.

 

 

about keeping the breath

 

In the book of Patanjali, Yoga sutras, he recommends it.

 

 

 

about hypnotic trance created by pulses

 

Yes that is the point. According to some of the papers collected in

the book of (Michael Hutchison, Megabrain), when brain encounters a

repetitive pattern, will follow it. 5 Hertz is theta state of brain,

between full awareness and unconscious sleep. Something that Maharishi

Mahesh yogi (peace be upon him) calls: transcendental state.

 

 

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question was this:

Is sending the brain to theta state helps or not?

 

I do not like Alpha state

It is too agitated comparing with theta

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people have been meditating for decades and died without results

what is the point of 17 years meditation (like Gopi Krishna) before

getting results, if one can use electronic devices and get the same

result in a much shorter time?

 

Regards

 

Shahin

[Guest guest]

I have to say I've never heard of such methods, but

still I think that a slow regular practice will give

the best results even if it takes forever as it is the

work that conditions the body to safely accept and

intergrate higher energies.

If it's just about deepening meditation then if

something helps you enter theta state then go for it,

I know people use holosynch CD's.

 

But for activating Kundalini I would allow it to come

in it's own time and not try to push it. If we are

only focusing on the end result we are missing the

whole point and perhaps this is why we do not reach

what we desire. Surrender is paramount to a safe

activation. Reaching a state of non-expectancy is

surely a good way of developing one's own energy.

 

A shaktipat from coupled with practice will

certainly get you on your way and is the way I

recommend a safe Kundalini experience.

 

IMHO

 

Blessings

Elektra x x x

 

 

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People who have consumed 'Psychotropic' drugs, like LSD or peyote or ketamine,

have reported many wonderful mystical experiences !! But are they real ? No,

they are just hallucinations.

THe meditator by repeated attempts for prolonged periods, often running into

years enters the state called " Turya " -literal meaning 'The fourth state' as

compared to the Awakened state, sleep and dreaming state. When the thought flow

stops, the mind dissappears, the 'Ego' vanishes, and one realises that one is a

spiritual being, not the body-mind complex. The hindus consider this the highest

achievement for a human being. This is extremely difficult to achieve. Out of a

million 'Sadhakas' - seekers- one or two may achieve this. Earnestness and

persevereness are very essential for treading this path. And a competent guru is

a must. There are exceptions, like shri Ramana maharishi, who didn't have a

guru.

Regards

Venugopal

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

At 02:00 AM 2/12/2008, you wrote:

>People who have consumed 'Psychotropic' drugs, like LSD or peyote or ketamine,

have reported many wonderful mystical experiences !! But are they real ? No,

they are just hallucinations.

 

But of course according to so much quantum physics research reality is in

essence just a hallucination that the majority agrees upon. So how do we know

that hallucinations do not bear some form of " objective " reality?

 

Brandi

 

 

[Guest guest]

I have never ever had a guru and I am going ok. I am re-reading my

book on Hinduism that I have had for years. In this new cycle, I

dont think we all need gurus.

CV

 

 

 

 

 

, Venugopal AK

<akvenugopal wrote:

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> People who have consumed 'Psychotropic' drugs, like LSD or peyote

or ketamine, have reported many wonderful mystical experiences !!

But are they real ? No, they are just hallucinations.

> THe meditator by repeated attempts for prolonged periods, often

running into years enters the state called " Turya " -literal

meaning 'The fourth state' as compared to the Awakened state, sleep

and dreaming state. When the thought flow stops, the mind

dissappears, the 'Ego' vanishes, and one realises that one is a

spiritual being, not the body-mind complex. The hindus consider this

the highest achievement for a human being. This is extremely

difficult to achieve. Out of a million 'Sadhakas' - seekers- one or

two may achieve this. Earnestness and persevereness are very

essential for treading this path. And a competent guru is a must.

There are exceptions, like shri Ramana maharishi, who didn't have a

guru.

> Regards

> Venugopal

>

>

>

> Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Shahin,

 

I think Chrism's approach includes meditation but also includes a

balance of other things like forgiving, inner joy, gratitude,

watching our diets, doing the tibetans, etc. With this balanced

approached we are most likely to awaken in a loving and joyful

manner. As well, following this loving balanced approach is the

filter through which we recieve the shaktipat from Chrism. So by

following all the safeties, you are more likely to bring more results

through the shaktipat 4X a year, and it also will likely help you get

more results from your mediations as well.

 

If you are spending a balanced amount of time with your safeties as

well as with your meditations, and still want to awaken ASAP,

increase your amount of loving service to others! Talk to Katherine,

or check out some of her past posts over the last year to see what

result this has, lol. It will 'jump start' your meditations.

 

love bradly