Dali Lama CD Chant - Bhavin

[Guest guest]

What it is you want to be convinced of Bhavin? I received the CD free

from a merchant who gave me all of the information I have posted about

it. Was the information incorrect? Call 911. Its a nice CD and a nice

chant and I enjoy it as do others who EVER recorded it. Why is this

such a big deal? - blessngs - chrism

[Guest guest]

Witnesses to this most important development can be provided at the

request of the prosecutor. was there as we were purchasing

seminar supplies. Plus I can perhaps get the merchant online to give

her testimony. Please let me know how your mind can be put at ease.

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> What it is you want to be convinced of Bhavin?

[Guest guest]

I'm still not sure if this is meant to be humourous or not (so I won't

laugh just yet). There seems to be a strange combination of

seriousness and attempts to be funny.

 

Let me provide clarification that it's not a big deal to me

personally. But it is clearly important to some other people, perhaps

due to the ethical and moral issues involved.

 

There is a lot of information on the public internet. People can do

their own research and decide for themselves.

 

Bhavin.

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> What it is you want to be convinced of Bhavin? I received the CD free

> from a merchant who gave me all of the information I have posted

about

> it. Was the information incorrect? Call 911. Its a nice CD and a nice

> chant and I enjoy it as do others who EVER recorded it. Why is this

> such a big deal? - blessngs - chrism

>

[Guest guest]

If " Innocent Mike " bought a Snow White DVD from " Honest John " down at

the local market and it turned out to be an illegal copy or fake,

then it does not help in a court case that Mike's friends were

witnesses.

 

As I said before, check the information that is available and make up

your own mind.

 

Bhavin.

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Witnesses to this most important development can be provided at the

> request of the prosecutor. was there as we were purchasing

> seminar supplies. Plus I can perhaps get the merchant online to

give

> her testimony. Please let me know how your mind can be put at ease.

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > What it is you want to be convinced of Bhavin?

>

[Guest guest]

I did do some searching on this yesterday. A week or so ago, I

thought I was on a Dalai Lama website where you could download the CD

for free with the story of giving it away for free, but I guess it

was not a true Dalai Lama webpage for it has been delete or is no

longer excessable, as well as about 50 or more other links to the CD.

 

I even checked out Hein Braat's website. That is were I got the quote

I posted yesterday about the meaning of the CD.

 

http://www.heinbraat.com/index.php?menu_id=78

 

Linda

 

 

, " Bhavin Desai "

<bhavin.desai wrote:

>

> I'm still not sure if this is meant to be humourous or not (so I

won't

> laugh just yet). There seems to be a strange combination of

> seriousness and attempts to be funny.

>

> Let me provide clarification that it's not a big deal to me

> personally. But it is clearly important to some other people,

perhaps

> due to the ethical and moral issues involved.

>

> There is a lot of information on the public internet. People can

do

> their own research and decide for themselves.

>

> Bhavin.

>

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > What it is you want to be convinced of Bhavin? I received the CD

free

> > from a merchant who gave me all of the information I have posted

> about

> > it. Was the information incorrect? Call 911. Its a nice CD and a

nice

> > chant and I enjoy it as do others who EVER recorded it. Why is

this

> > such a big deal? - blessngs - chrism

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If " Innocent Mike " was " given " a Snow White DVD from " Honest John " down

at the local market and it turned out to be an illegal copy or fake,

outside of innocent Mikes knowledge then it does matter to the courts

here in the USA if the snow white cd was given rather than purchased

Bhavin.

 

Mike has not demonstrated an intent to defraud Walt Disney & Co. by

accepting a CD from another person. You seem to be trying very hard to

make the whole Dalai Lama CD thing into something bad or dishonest. Why

is that? - blessings Bhavin - chrism

 

 

 

, " Bhavin Desai "

<bhavin.desai wrote:

>

> If " Innocent Mike " bought a Snow White DVD from " Honest John " down at

> the local market and it turned out to be an illegal copy or fake,

> then it does not help in a court case

[Guest guest]

I am not " trying hard " anything.

You are making a lot of presumptions.

Please stop your focus on ME personally.

 

Just look at the publicly available information.

Apologise for your mistake and credit the original artist.

Perhaps also inform the shop regarding the free distribution?

 

Note the cost of the original is 17 Euros from:

http://www.yogini.eu/webwinkel/index.php?product_id=3 & sub=95 & cmd=shop_produc

t & prod_id=217

(This was just one click away from the link in Linda's email.)

 

I'm not a lawyer, but... it does not make too much of a difference that

someone was *given* an item rather than *bought* it, since in either case

there is still the issue of possession of illegal goods, also complicated by

the onward distribution of such goods. This is further complicated by

continuing to do so even when several different newsgroup members have

pointed out the same issue (although it is noted that you have not sent

messages to them personally).

 

However, regardless of the above commercial and legal impacts/implications,

please also consider the ethical and moral issues. For example, how would

you feel if someone else took material from your websites etc, and started

giving it away free with someone else's name, without even acknowledging

you? How would you feel if they continued to do that even when informed by

other people about the original of the material and resources?

 

You are the newsgroup owner so you have certain responsibilities about the

content of the messages and the content of your websites. I am only a guest

and have no rights, so you are able to revoke my membership according to

your wish.

 

You may wish to study (or refresh yourself) regarding the Yamas and Niyamas,

which are the first two stages of the Patanjali Eightfold Path. There are

lots of internet resources available for this information.

 

Bhavin.

 

 

 

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Posted by: " chrism "  

Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:53 pm (PST)

If " Innocent Mike " was " given " a Snow White DVD from " Honest John " down

at the local market and it turned out to be an illegal copy or fake,

outside of innocent Mikes knowledge then it does matter to the courts

here in the USA if the snow white cd was given rather than purchased

Bhavin.

 

Mike has not demonstrated an intent to defraud Walt Disney & Co. by

accepting a CD from another person. You seem to be trying very hard to

make the whole Dalai Lama CD thing into something bad or dishonest. Why

is that? - blessings Bhavin - chrism

 

, " Bhavin Desai "

<bhavin.desai wrote:

>

> If " Innocent Mike " bought a Snow White DVD from " Honest John " down at

> the local market and it turned out to be an illegal copy or fake,

> then it does not help in a court case

[Guest guest]

Give it a rest already! NO ONE cares!

 

Love,

Katherine

 

 

 

Bhavin Desai <bhavin.desai

 

Wednesday, February 13, 2008 6:28:07 AM

RE: Dali Lama CD Chant - Bhavin - Final

 

See http://www.mantrafo rhealing. com/ which starts with " This bootleg

recording has been circulating now for decades... " . It offers the chance to

buy a proper copy for £12.97 or $29.95.

 

Other sites:

http://ezinearticle s.com/?Dalai- Lama-Healing- Chant & id= 885000

http://yoga- masters.blogspot .com/2008/ 01/dalai- lama-healing- chant.html

http://quantumtouch .groupee. net/eve/forums/ a/tpc/f/39010718 11/m/5881083212

http://interpret. co.za/art/ Health-and- Fitness/Yoga/ dalai_lama_

healing_chant.

php

http://www.selfgrow th.com/articles/ Dalai_Lama_ Healing_Chant. html

 

Note that not even one site was found that states the Dalai Lama CD is

genuine. Note also that the " distribution " is always person to person, and

hence traceability is difficult and actual numbers are unknown.

 

Bhavin.

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> I think it is all a conspiracy and this Dutch guy is usurping the

true

singer who could be none other than the Dalia Lama or Bruce

Springsteen. I am writing the Dalai Lama to let him know that yes! We

the true believers of his secret desire to be a pop/new age singing

sensation will never allow his name to be used or usurped unless the

pay off is really good. - lol - ************

 

 

 

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!Hey everyone it is soooooooooo great to be back!!! My

computer had a mysterious affliction for an entire month, at the same

time as which I was in my own little self made valley, and I got back

a couple days ago, have been reading messages and as always, heard

exactly what I needed to hear, especially you Chrism!!!! You ARE the

man! LOL! You cracked me up several times. I admit I deleted some of

the messages, I had 212!!! I am working my way forward. Thank you

dear and dear group! Namaste,

Carol

 

Heart Heart Heart, Happy Heart Day Everyone!

[Guest guest]

I wrote to the Dalia Lama and recieved an answer that c has not yet posted - all

is well - this discussion offered lessons for all of us in many ways - for me I

realized that I need to do what I usually do - go to the source -but more

quickly - and it brought to the forefront that i need to be diligent when it

comes to recording/publishing chrism's works/words- so thank you for the

discussion.

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Bhavin,

 

There are ethical and moral and legal issues being violated ONLY if the CD is

being SOLD....it is being given away for FREE. explained how he came to

obtain a copy of the CD in the following post to you on February 6th:

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes hello Bhavin,

This was given to me at a new age crystal shop

nearby where I live in Santa Rosa. I was buying some supplies for

the upcoming seminar. I heard this music playing but only certain

frequencies of it. I didn't hear the words or the actual " music " of

it merely the low tonal frequencies and thought that it was nice.

 

I ask the young lady behind the counter, the daughter of the owners,

what she was playing and she graciously replied that it was the

Dalai Lama chanting for a person to lead them through the Bardo.

I left it at that and continued looking for supplies. As I was

paying her I asked her if I could purchase a copy of the CD as I

enjoyed the low tonal frequencies. She replied that she could not

sell me a copy and instead told me she would give me the CD that she

was playing! She then began to inform me of the Dalai Lamas wish

that it be freely distributed. I was the second person that day to

receive a copy.

 

I was pleasantly surprised and of course wanted to share it with the

group. Not being as well versed in the computer industry as you

Bhavin I decided to make the CD's for people rather than try and

find a share site that might eventually charge them for the

download. So I did that until Linda and her helpers found a way

around that.

 

I have listened to the URL you have most kindly offered but I do

find differences between the two though it is yes the same Mantra.

Thank you for the in depth background about this mantra and the

Dalai Lamas use of it and I do agree it is a most powerful and for

me a pleasant experience. I will play it at the seminar and will

give away free copies to the attendees. With instructions against

its commercial vending.

 

Thank you also for the translation. The breadth of your knowledge in

these areas is impressive! - blessings Bhavin - chrism

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

It seems to me that knowing the kind of person the Dalai Lama is, he would want

as many people as possible to have access to this CD and he would NOT want

financial gain from its distribution. Don't you think?

 

I hope this helps!

 

Many blessings to you, Bhavin,

Claudia

 

Bhavin Desai <bhavin.desai wrote:

I'm still not sure if this is meant to be humourous or not (so I won't

laugh just yet). There seems to be a strange combination of

seriousness and attempts to be funny.

 

Let me provide clarification that it's not a big deal to me

personally. But it is clearly important to some other people, perhaps

due to the ethical and moral issues involved.

 

There is a lot of information on the public internet. People can do

their own research and decide for themselves.

 

Bhavin.

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> What it is you want to be convinced of Bhavin? I received the CD free

> from a merchant who gave me all of the information I have posted

about

> it. Was the information incorrect? Call 911. Its a nice CD and a nice

> chant and I enjoy it as do others who EVER recorded it. Why is this

> such a big deal? - blessngs - chrism

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I have spoken offlist with Bhavin, he chose to contact

me for whatever reason to give his last speech. He has

now left.

 

I can see what happened quite clearly.

 

Mercury, planet of communications was in peek

retrograde period, twisting communication and giving a

feeling of confusion , and then we are in the middle

of a pair of eclipses, this one today bring ends to

things, including relationships.

 

It is the perfect planetary time to miscommunicate,

get confused, get angry and storm off.

 

Simple as that.

 

I see it all the time with these configurations,

Bless you all and be aware in your own personal lifes

not to repeat this pattern.

My hubby's sister loves to accuse him of all kinds of

stuff around the eclipses we have been having in the

last 2 years, getting very angry and refusing to speak

to him after!!!! I'm an expert in this!

 

Ha ha

 

Love Elektra x x x

 

 

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