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I have to agree with Claudia. I, personally, do not feel pressured.

Although I would love to

feel pressured, perhaps I would do the safeties religiously everyday!

All you can do is shake your head and move on, and

hope they find happiness somewhere. All you do is offer a helping hand,

it's up to those who decide to take

from it.

nothin' but love for them :)

Lisa

 

 

Claudia wrote:

>

> Chris, there will always be detractors, especially for true leaders

> such as you. You know that we do not feel pressured by you in any way,

> only lovingly led and fed.

>

> God bless these jealous and fearful detractors, may their hearts be

> touched one day as ours have been touched by you.

>

> Blessings & love to you, fellow traveler,

>

> Claudia

>

> chrism < <%40>> wrote:

> I have been receiving e-mails that cast some hard aspersions my way

> and I wish to make them public to you.

>

> I am told that other news groups have some problems with this one

> and that I use tricky words to sway or in some way influence

> beginners and others who come seeking assistance. These are

> termed " psychological/verbal techniques " and are supposedly employed

> by me to...I guess...form an agenda towards collecting followers.

>

> " Complaints have been expressed on other newsgroups about this one "

> is another interesting observation, though I am not aware of these I

> am sure it does occur.

>

> I have not stated it this way before so let me be clear.

>

> I have no agenda with any of you other than assisting in the

> understanding of the Kundalini process that is waiting to be

> awakened or is already awakened within you. I offer my assistance

> based upon my experiences.

>

> I am not a perfect teacher. This stems from not being a perfect

> student. When the Kundalini came to me I did everything wrong. I

> made every mistake in the book so to say and I did some of them

> repeatedly.

>

> As far as my writings they all come from me and the Kundalini within

> and outside of me.

>

> One complaint was of my collecting of others writings and this is

> done so that you can gain the perspective of other people going

> through the process in their own way. They are given their due as

> the unique writings of those authors. When the subject is of such

> universal use though as in the " micro and macro cosmic orbits " no

> such designation occurs as the source is far into the distant past

> timeline.

>

> I put on seminars from time to time. I do not sell anything other

> than my information as one does in a book. I give most of my

> information away free of charge but some enjoy a personal and in

> person experience and I am happy to provide it. I have lost money on

> every single one I have given! lol. I do not feel like it is a

> lucrative living. This next one will be the first in quite some time.

>

> I am accused of not practicing what I preach here in the group and

> therefore in life. My life changed radically with the Kundalini and

> the qualities expressed here do reflect those that I act upon and

> feel and relate towards others. I can still be angry sometimes. And

> it is always an option to feel any of the range of emotions that are

> detrimental to the Kundalini. For example - I spilled a hot beverage

> in the vehicle I was driving the other day, thankfully missing

> certain " sensitive areas " lol. but I did say an expletive!

>

> So please have very little expectation of a " perfect guru " or a

> Saint or of an embodiment of an exalted figure as I am clearly not

> that. I am just me. A fellow traveler, a friend, and a kind stranger

> you meet on your journey. - blessings all - chrism

>

>

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

>

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I agree with Claudia and Lisa, there are just those out there who want to

stir-up things because of some reason or another. I don't feel anymore pressured

than a man in the moon! I feel all I do and think are of my own freewill and on

my own accord. I have never ever felt like you or anyone else from this group

has pressured me about anything or to do anything. As long as I have been a

member of this group, which has been over a year and a half, you have always

encourage us to be independent and also always let us know that you are there

for us when we need you!

 

I know you aren't perfect, nor have I ever thought you thought you were! WE all

make mistakes and we will continue to make mistakes, all of us! These people

obviously don't know you like they think they do. I know that you are here for

us to help us go through our awakening smoothly, not suffering the way you did,

helping us learn through your own experiences. I thank you for doing so!

 

As for those who want to say things that aren't true, all we can do is pray for

them and hope they find their way! Blessings to you for you kindness, your love,

your dedication, and your desire to help us and others through this process. And

just one more thing, I don't recall you asking me or trying to talk me into

drinking any purple kool-aid when you and were here! LOL! These people

truly need our prayers!

 

Love,

Katherine

 

 

 

Leshya <pleiades69

 

Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:29:39 PM

Re: [sPAM] Re: chrism in the eyes of

others

 

I have to agree with Claudia. I, personally, do not feel pressured.

Although I would love to

feel pressured, perhaps I would do the safeties religiously everyday!

All you can do is shake your head and move on, and

hope they find happiness somewhere. All you do is offer a helping hand,

it's up to those who decide to take

from it.

nothin' but love for them :)

Lisa

 

Claudia wrote:

>

> Chris, there will always be detractors, especially for true leaders

> such as you. You know that we do not feel pressured by you in any way,

> only lovingly led and fed.

>

> God bless these jealous and fearful detractors, may their hearts be

> touched one day as ours have been touched by you.

>

> Blessings & love to you, fellow traveler,

>

> Claudia

>

> chrism <@ < %40. com>> wrote:

> I have been receiving e-mails that cast some hard aspersions my way

> and I wish to make them public to you.

>

> I am told that other news groups have some problems with this one

> and that I use tricky words to sway or in some way influence

> beginners and others who come seeking assistance. These are

> termed " psychological/ verbal techniques " and are supposedly employed

> by me to...I guess...form an agenda towards collecting followers.

>

> " Complaints have been expressed on other newsgroups about this one "

> is another interesting observation, though I am not aware of these I

> am sure it does occur.

>

> I have not stated it this way before so let me be clear.

>

> I have no agenda with any of you other than assisting in the

> understanding of the Kundalini process that is waiting to be

> awakened or is already awakened within you. I offer my assistance

> based upon my experiences.

>

> I am not a perfect teacher. This stems from not being a perfect

> student. When the Kundalini came to me I did everything wrong. I

> made every mistake in the book so to say and I did some of them

> repeatedly.

>

> As far as my writings they all come from me and the Kundalini within

> and outside of me.

>

> One complaint was of my collecting of others writings and this is

> done so that you can gain the perspective of other people going

> through the process in their own way. They are given their due as

> the unique writings of those authors. When the subject is of such

> universal use though as in the " micro and macro cosmic orbits " no

> such designation occurs as the source is far into the distant past

> timeline.

>

> I put on seminars from time to time. I do not sell anything other

> than my information as one does in a book. I give most of my

> information away free of charge but some enjoy a personal and in

> person experience and I am happy to provide it. I have lost money on

> every single one I have given! lol. I do not feel like it is a

> lucrative living. This next one will be the first in quite some time.

>

> I am accused of not practicing what I preach here in the group and

> therefore in life. My life changed radically with the Kundalini and

> the qualities expressed here do reflect those that I act upon and

> feel and relate towards others. I can still be angry sometimes. And

> it is always an option to feel any of the range of emotions that are

> detrimental to the Kundalini. For example - I spilled a hot beverage

> in the vehicle I was driving the other day, thankfully missing

> certain " sensitive areas " lol. but I did say an expletive!

>

> So please have very little expectation of a " perfect guru " or a

> Saint or of an embodiment of an exalted figure as I am clearly not

> that. I am just me. A fellow traveler, a friend, and a kind stranger

> you meet on your journey. - blessings all - chrism

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ---

> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

>

>

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Chrism I think of you as a very wise friend who always

has good advice. Love,

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>

 

 

 

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