Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Some books you may find intresting (as I did) are the books written by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy. " The Jesus Mysteries " series opened my eyes to the deeper gnostic meaning behind the " man " Blessings, Laura celticvoice6 <celticvoice6 wrote: I find it hard to believe that the Bible was totally accurate, as nothing was written about Jesus until at least 70 years after his death. Whoever wrote it, would have either not have known him, or if he did know him, was very old. Jesus was a great Soul, but also a human being. I dont believe God is a person. God is Love, and seeing God as a man is just a personification of the Love. Jesus seemed to want to make changes to Judaism of the time, and as always, the Jews would never kill their own, no matter what he said he was. They probably saw him as a bit deluded. Jesus' greatest message was when the woman tried to hold on to his robe, thinking that if she touched him, she would be healed. And Jesus said " It is thy faith that makes thee whole " . CV , Brandi Jasmine <jazztalk wrote: > > At 09:52 AM 2/17/2008, you wrote: > >From my understanding and the way I see it, it wasn't that he was > >against religions, but was against those who where using religion for > >their own personal gain. Hehe! > > I'll go along with that interpretation. He certainly was against religiosity and the abuse of religious power, I could agree with that. > > >There were many using the laws > >of God for their own personal gain and there are many reliegious > >leaders today who do the same thing > > I am a former Pentecostal who went through the loss of that faith primarily because of Kundalini (or at least K-like) experiences. I spent several years studying the historical Jesus (desperately trying to piece Humpty Dumpty back together again, but that's another story <g>). > > I know that my understanding of Jesus has no more validity than anyone else's ... there are just a few facts to consider as you make your own decision what you will believe or not ... > > The man we know as Jesus said himself, " I came not to bring peace, but a sword. " Indeed, he was not above using violence at the money- changers to make a point. He had Sicari, or Zealots in his entourage (Judas Iscariot, properly translated Judas the Sicari). These men were a politically-motivated group of assassins, in modern definition, the " terrorists " of their day. He was laying claim to an earthly kingdom, the Throne of David, and it was the Romans who killed him for sedition - not the Jews, who legally could have killed him by stoning, if the crime he was accused of was indeed blasphemy. So where do we get the idea that he was some kind of peace, love and brotherhood guy laying claim to some kind of metaphysical kingship? That's what I am trying to understand. > > Brandi > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 I have never read books like that as I dont know how accurate they are either. I have read books that claim that Jesus didnt even exist, and that the virgin birth was something to do with magic mushrooms. So after reading that, I decided not to read any! CV , Angelic Shadows <angelic_shadows2002 wrote: > > > Some books you may find intresting (as I did) are the books written by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy. " The Jesus Mysteries " series opened my eyes to the deeper gnostic meaning behind the " man " > > Blessings, > Laura > > celticvoice6 <celticvoice6 wrote: > I find it hard to believe that the Bible was totally accurate, as > nothing was written about Jesus until at least 70 years after his > death. Whoever wrote it, would have either not have known him, or if > he did know him, was very old. > Jesus was a great Soul, but also a human being. I dont believe God > is a person. God is Love, and seeing God as a man is just a > personification of the Love. > Jesus seemed to want to make changes to Judaism of the time, and as > always, the Jews would never kill their own, no matter what he said > he was. They probably saw him as a bit deluded. > Jesus' greatest message was when the woman tried to hold on to his > robe, thinking that if she touched him, she would be healed. And > Jesus said " It is thy faith that makes thee whole " . > CV > > > , Brandi Jasmine > <jazztalk@> wrote: > > > > At 09:52 AM 2/17/2008, you wrote: > > >From my understanding and the way I see it, it wasn't that he was > > >against religions, but was against those who where using religion > for > > >their own personal gain. Hehe! > > > > I'll go along with that interpretation. He certainly was against > religiosity and the abuse of religious power, I could agree with > that. > > > > >There were many using the laws > > >of God for their own personal gain and there are many reliegious > > >leaders today who do the same thing > > > > I am a former Pentecostal who went through the loss of that faith > primarily because of Kundalini (or at least K-like) experiences. I > spent several years studying the historical Jesus (desperately > trying to piece Humpty Dumpty back together again, but that's > another story <g>). > > > > I know that my understanding of Jesus has no more validity than > anyone else's ... there are just a few facts to consider as you make > your own decision what you will believe or not ... > > > > The man we know as Jesus said himself, " I came not to bring peace, > but a sword. " Indeed, he was not above using violence at the money- > changers to make a point. He had Sicari, or Zealots in his entourage > (Judas Iscariot, properly translated Judas the Sicari). These men > were a politically-motivated group of assassins, in modern > definition, the " terrorists " of their day. He was laying claim to an > earthly kingdom, the Throne of David, and it was the Romans who > killed him for sedition - not the Jews, who legally could have > killed him by stoning, if the crime he was accused of was indeed > blasphemy. So where do we get the idea that he was some kind of > peace, love and brotherhood guy laying claim to some kind of > metaphysical kingship? That's what I am trying to understand. > > > > Brandi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Wow, that sounds very interesting Ana...I loved Dr. Michael Newton's books and he is also a past life regression hypnotherapist. I will definitely read these books, thank you! Blessings & love, Claudia Brent & Ana <brent.ana wrote: Hi there, some very interesting books about the life of jesus are,'They walked with jesus, and Jesus and the essenes by Dolores Cannon. She is a well known past life regression hypnotherapist who has obtained all sorts of fascinating info on metaphysics, etc etc. But her stories obtained about the life of jesus are just fascinating and ring true for me. The info comes from people in deep hypnosis recalling past lives who were followers of jesus. For me my instinct tells me these are accurate accounts of his life anyway...Enjoy! Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I have read almost all of Dolores Cannon's books and enjoyed reading all of them and found them very fascinating, but I would not for a minute consider some channelled message from and an Essense name Suddi having more authority than the written biblical account. jmho Linda , " Brent & Ana " <brent.ana wrote: > > Hi there, some very interesting books about the life of jesus are,'They walked with jesus, and Jesus and the essenes by Dolores Cannon. She is a well known past life regression hypnotherapist who has obtained all sorts of fascinating info on metaphysics, etc etc. But her stories obtained about the life of jesus are just fascinating and ring true for me. The info comes from people in deep hypnosis recalling past lives who were followers of jesus. > For me my instinct tells me these are accurate accounts of his life anyway...Enjoy! > Ana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2008 Report Share Posted February 20, 2008 Hi there, some very interesting books about the life of jesus are,'They walked with jesus, and Jesus and the essenes by Dolores Cannon. She is a well known past life regression hypnotherapist who has obtained all sorts of fascinating info on metaphysics, etc etc. But her stories obtained about the life of jesus are just fascinating and ring true for me. The info comes from people in deep hypnosis recalling past lives who were followers of jesus. For me my instinct tells me these are accurate accounts of his life anyway...Enjoy! Ana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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