Question about the Safeties

[Guest guest]

I have a question:

 

Concerning the 'eyes up' and the 'finger lock', are these basically

meant for during meditation, or all the time when possible? What

does the finger lock 'do'?

 

Here is another question:

 

I work in the auto industry, which by now you all probably have heard

is in the middle of a huge reorganization. Things at work are pretty

chaotic, with old rules no longer being followed, changes are

rampant. The problem is that the people in charge are pretty much

those without that much experience, who don't understand the whole

picture. So, sometimes I am being asked to do things I don't agree

with, or which seem very unfair. Emphasis is on paperwork rather

than the actual manufacturing process, and correct paperwork makes

everything ok. They even have people following us around and

auditing us to make sure that every bit is filled out.

 

Naturally, conflict arises, as I have been doing my job for well over

thirty years and yet I am having to go through the learning curve of

others with them. I do my best to give the whole situation over to G-

d, to realize what is happening, to understand that I am also being

given the opportunity to learn about myself through my reactions, and

all that jazz, but as it is an ongoing challenge, sometimes I get

angry, and I know this can't be good for me. There is an energy

imbalance then, and chemicals in my blood that cause me to feel bad,

and not only that, I lose LOL. I do forgive, both them and myself,

although the latter is harder do to, as I disappoint myself.

 

I am concerned that after the Shaktipat this could all be magnified,

so what do I do about it? I am pretty good at letting things go, at

prayer, but I don't want to lose control if the energy is very

strong. Is this a legitimate concern? I am putting the safeties

into practice as well as I can, and, believe me, I am getting plenty

of practice at work.

 

thomas

[Guest guest]

Hi Thomas,

 

The finger locks will help ground the energy and let it run safely

through you. Don't forget the tongue up too. Yes I think you are on

the right track, do them whenever safely possible. If you try to the

tongue up and eyes up while talking to other people though they will

look at you strangely...

 

Sounds like you are being tested and are learning and growing at

work. And this too shall pass right? And I bet it passes a lot sooner

as soon as you pass your inner test. I don't think it will be long

though, keep forgiving them, yourself and act as best you can in a

loving and peaceful way...

 

Your situation reminds me of the Dilbert thing recently. A man was

fired by his management for putting up some Dilbert strips in the

office. Since then, the creator of Dilbert created a strip where a

worker got in trouble for putting up some comic strips.

 

As far as Shaktipat goes, I don't think you will be given any more

than you can handle. Whatever does come if you remain peaceful and

joyful will be integrated with no trouble. Your dedication to the

safeties will dictate the degree of your Shaktipat. That's Chrism's

safety filter.

 

be well, bradly

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bradly.

 

 

 

I do the tongue up thing as a habitual thing. I learned that quite a few

years ago. I did wonder about the finger locks though.

 

 

 

I think you are right about the testing at work. I know that the Self

living through those vehicles is the same as that living through me. I have

a tendency to get caught up in the moment just as I did back 40 years ago

when I was 20. Not as often, nor as bad, but it's still there. I'm on my

second life in a manner of speaking, after my heart attack last summer. I

want to stop all the stuff, both diet and emotional habits, that put me in

the ER in the first place. The situations are still there, but how I deal

with them is what is changing.

 

 

 

Thanks again,

 

thomas

 

 

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of

curball2002

Sunday, February 24, 2008 11:03 AM

 

Re: Question about the Safeties

 

 

 

Hi Thomas,

 

The finger locks will help ground the energy and let it run safely

through you. Don't forget the tongue up too. Yes I think you are on

the right track, do them whenever safely possible. If you try to the

tongue up and eyes up while talking to other people though they will

look at you strangely...

 

Sounds like you are being tested and are learning and growing at

work. And this too shall pass right? And I bet it passes a lot sooner

as soon as you pass your inner test. I don't think it will be long

though, keep forgiving them, yourself and act as best you can in a

loving and peaceful way...

 

Your situation reminds me of the Dilbert thing recently. A man was

fired by his management for putting up some Dilbert strips in the

office. Since then, the creator of Dilbert created a strip where a

worker got in trouble for putting up some comic strips.

 

As far as Shaktipat goes, I don't think you will be given any more

than you can handle. Whatever does come if you remain peaceful and

joyful will be integrated with no trouble. Your dedication to the

safeties will dictate the degree of your Shaktipat. That's Chrism's

safety filter.

 

be well, bradly

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thomas I can identify with everything you are going through. I work in

manufacturing and recently we went through a restructure in

management. One that I consider an underling has become the shop

foreman and I have had resentment toward this issue. Not that I would

want that job as I was the next in line for that consideration and

this person acquired this position just because he had more time at

the company than I did. But that I consider this person to be an idiot

and an incompetent person and they should have hired someone with the

abilities to be a leader.

 

To answer your question, yes this negativity can manifest within your

physical form. All through this winter everyone around me has been

down with the flue and colds whereas I was feeling great. Then when

this wildcard in life happened, the negativity of circumstances became

a prominence of thought at work. I became sick shortly after this

person became controller of the work place. For a month I have had a

cold and just beginning to reconcile the emotional turmoil.

 

A recommendation would be to find a way to accept the company's new

policies and go with the flow, find a creative outlet for this energy,

be of assistance to others around you, or find a new job. A new job

may be a bit dramatic but the inner conflicts amplified by Shakti

usually are not a pleasant manifestation. Sorry if I have opened a

portal to a side of Shakti that isn't so blissful but it states why

the safeties are important.

 

 

 

, " Thomas "

<magick41 wrote:

>

 

>

> Here is another question:

>

> I work in the auto industry, which by now you all probably have heard

> is in the middle of a huge reorganization. Things at work are pretty

> chaotic, with old rules no longer being followed, changes are

> rampant. The problem is that the people in charge are pretty much

> those without that much experience, who don't understand the whole

> picture. So, sometimes I am being asked to do things I don't agree

> with, or which seem very unfair. Emphasis is on paperwork rather

> than the actual manufacturing process, and correct paperwork makes

> everything ok. They even have people following us around and

> auditing us to make sure that every bit is filled out.

>

> Naturally, conflict arises, as I have been doing my job for well over

> thirty years and yet I am having to go through the learning curve of

> others with them. I do my best to give the whole situation over to G-

> d, to realize what is happening, to understand that I am also being

> given the opportunity to learn about myself through my reactions, and

> all that jazz, but as it is an ongoing challenge, sometimes I get

> angry, and I know this can't be good for me. There is an energy

> imbalance then, and chemicals in my blood that cause me to feel bad,

> and not only that, I lose LOL. I do forgive, both them and myself,

> although the latter is harder do to, as I disappoint myself.

 

> thomas

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you very much, Ben. I know this is very wide spread, and I'm glad to

hear from a fellow experiencer.

 

 

 

I think I'm doing a pretty good job of accepting the company's new policies

most of the time. I have to, or I would have to go. It's mainly the times

when I feel unfairly treated that I get upset. They really would prefer

that people like me leave the company, but I'm not financially quite ready

to do that.

 

 

 

I knew about this side of things, so you have nothing to apologize for. I'm

not sitting here saying 'bummer' LOL. And, yes, that is what I was thinking

about when I asked this question in terms of the safeties. I guess it's

just a bit frustrating that this 'purifying' process never seems to end, if

you know what I mean.

 

 

 

thomas

 

 

 

_____

 

 

 

 

 

Thomas I can identify with everything you are going through. I work in

manufacturing and recently we went through a restructure in

management.

 

To answer your question, yes this negativity can manifest within your

physical form.

 

A recommendation would be to find a way to accept the company's new

policies and go with the flow, find a creative outlet for this energy,

be of assistance to others around you, or find a new job. A new job

may be a bit dramatic but the inner conflicts amplified by Shakti

usually are not a pleasant manifestation. Sorry if I have opened a

portal to a side of Shakti that isn't so blissful but it states why

the safeties are important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but wouldn't it be important to

learn to deal with these situations, learn the lessons from them,

rather than leaving the job? It might very well become necessary or

desireable to leave the job, but there might be some valuable lessons

to learn in the meantime. It is very difficult to be positive when

negative things are happening, but it is the only way we can learn

this skill. It is very easy to be positive when there is no

controversy isn't it? The real " work " is done under duress, imho.

 

Sarita

 

, " ben_hangen "

<ben_hangen wrote:

>

> Thomas I can identify with everything you are going through. I work

in

> manufacturing and recently we went through a restructure in

> management. One that I consider an underling has become the shop

> foreman and I have had resentment toward this issue. Not that I

would

> want that job as I was the next in line for that consideration and

> this person acquired this position just because he had more time at

> the company than I did. But that I consider this person to be an

idiot

> and an incompetent person and they should have hired someone with

the

> abilities to be a leader.

>

> To answer your question, yes this negativity can manifest within

your

> physical form. All through this winter everyone around me has been

> down with the flue and colds whereas I was feeling great. Then when

> this wildcard in life happened, the negativity of circumstances

became

> a prominence of thought at work. I became sick shortly after this

> person became controller of the work place. For a month I have had a

> cold and just beginning to reconcile the emotional turmoil.

>

> A recommendation would be to find a way to accept the company's new

> policies and go with the flow, find a creative outlet for this

energy,

> be of assistance to others around you, or find a new job. A new job

> may be a bit dramatic but the inner conflicts amplified by Shakti

> usually are not a pleasant manifestation. Sorry if I have opened a

> portal to a side of Shakti that isn't so blissful but it states why

> the safeties are important.

>

>

>

> , " Thomas "

> <magick41@> wrote:

> >

>

> >

> > Here is another question:

> >

> > I work in the auto industry, which by now you all probably have

heard

> > is in the middle of a huge reorganization. Things at work are

pretty

> > chaotic, with old rules no longer being followed, changes are

> > rampant. The problem is that the people in charge are pretty

much

> > those without that much experience, who don't understand the

whole

> > picture. So, sometimes I am being asked to do things I don't

agree

> > with, or which seem very unfair. Emphasis is on paperwork rather

> > than the actual manufacturing process, and correct paperwork

makes

> > everything ok. They even have people following us around and

> > auditing us to make sure that every bit is filled out.

> >

> > Naturally, conflict arises, as I have been doing my job for well

over

> > thirty years and yet I am having to go through the learning curve

of

> > others with them. I do my best to give the whole situation over

to G-

> > d, to realize what is happening, to understand that I am also

being

> > given the opportunity to learn about myself through my reactions,

and

> > all that jazz, but as it is an ongoing challenge, sometimes I get

> > angry, and I know this can't be good for me. There is an energy

> > imbalance then, and chemicals in my blood that cause me to feel

bad,

> > and not only that, I lose LOL. I do forgive, both them and

myself,

> > although the latter is harder do to, as I disappoint myself.

>

> > thomas

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bradly and Thomas,

I read with interest what you said in this post. I was a bit

concerned too about my recent foray into finding my father and all

my emotional stuff being right on the surface at the moment. I

wasworried that this would be magnified by Shaktipat, but I will

hope that it will all be fine.

CV

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " curball2002 "

<curball2002 wrote:

>

> Hi Thomas,

>

> The finger locks will help ground the energy and let it run safely

> through you. Don't forget the tongue up too. Yes I think you are

on

> the right track, do them whenever safely possible. If you try to

the

> tongue up and eyes up while talking to other people though they

will

> look at you strangely...

>

> Sounds like you are being tested and are learning and growing at

> work. And this too shall pass right? And I bet it passes a lot

sooner

> as soon as you pass your inner test. I don't think it will be long

> though, keep forgiving them, yourself and act as best you can in a

> loving and peaceful way...

>

> Your situation reminds me of the Dilbert thing recently. A man was

> fired by his management for putting up some Dilbert strips in the

> office. Since then, the creator of Dilbert created a strip where a

> worker got in trouble for putting up some comic strips.

>

> As far as Shaktipat goes, I don't think you will be given any more

> than you can handle. Whatever does come if you remain peaceful and

> joyful will be integrated with no trouble. Your dedication to the

> safeties will dictate the degree of your Shaktipat. That's

Chrism's

> safety filter.

>

> be well, bradly

>

[Guest guest]

Perhaps it depends also on how long you have been dealing with

this. A situation that cannot be fixed, may mean leaving. But yes,

I think that learning the lessons first is best, then see what

happens. CV

 

 

 

 

, " Sarita "

<sarita1969 wrote:

>

> Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but wouldn't it be important

to

> learn to deal with these situations, learn the lessons from them,

> rather than leaving the job? It might very well become necessary

or

> desireable to leave the job, but there might be some valuable

lessons

> to learn in the meantime. It is very difficult to be positive

when

> negative things are happening, but it is the only way we can learn

> this skill. It is very easy to be positive when there is no

> controversy isn't it? The real " work " is done under duress, imho.

>

> Sarita

>

> , " ben_hangen "

> <ben_hangen@> wrote:

> >

> > Thomas I can identify with everything you are going through. I

work

> in

> > manufacturing and recently we went through a restructure in

> > management. One that I consider an underling has become the shop

> > foreman and I have had resentment toward this issue. Not that I

> would

> > want that job as I was the next in line for that consideration

and

> > this person acquired this position just because he had more time

at

> > the company than I did. But that I consider this person to be an

> idiot

> > and an incompetent person and they should have hired someone

with

> the

> > abilities to be a leader.

> >

> > To answer your question, yes this negativity can manifest within

> your

> > physical form. All through this winter everyone around me has

been

> > down with the flue and colds whereas I was feeling great. Then

when

> > this wildcard in life happened, the negativity of circumstances

> became

> > a prominence of thought at work. I became sick shortly after this

> > person became controller of the work place. For a month I have

had a

> > cold and just beginning to reconcile the emotional turmoil.

> >

> > A recommendation would be to find a way to accept the company's

new

> > policies and go with the flow, find a creative outlet for this

> energy,

> > be of assistance to others around you, or find a new job. A new

job

> > may be a bit dramatic but the inner conflicts amplified by Shakti

> > usually are not a pleasant manifestation. Sorry if I have opened

a

> > portal to a side of Shakti that isn't so blissful but it states

why

> > the safeties are important.

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Thomas "

> > <magick41@> wrote:

> > >

> >

> > >

> > > Here is another question:

> > >

> > > I work in the auto industry, which by now you all probably

have

> heard

> > > is in the middle of a huge reorganization. Things at work are

> pretty

> > > chaotic, with old rules no longer being followed, changes are

> > > rampant. The problem is that the people in charge are pretty

> much

> > > those without that much experience, who don't understand the

> whole

> > > picture. So, sometimes I am being asked to do things I don't

> agree

> > > with, or which seem very unfair. Emphasis is on paperwork

rather

> > > than the actual manufacturing process, and correct paperwork

> makes

> > > everything ok. They even have people following us around and

> > > auditing us to make sure that every bit is filled out.

> > >

> > > Naturally, conflict arises, as I have been doing my job for

well

> over

> > > thirty years and yet I am having to go through the learning

curve

> of

> > > others with them. I do my best to give the whole situation

over

> to G-

> > > d, to realize what is happening, to understand that I am also

> being

> > > given the opportunity to learn about myself through my

reactions,

> and

> > > all that jazz, but as it is an ongoing challenge, sometimes I

get

> > > angry, and I know this can't be good for me. There is an

energy

> > > imbalance then, and chemicals in my blood that cause me to

feel

> bad,

> > > and not only that, I lose LOL. I do forgive, both them and

> myself,

> > > although the latter is harder do to, as I disappoint myself.

> >

> > > thomas

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I know what you are saying Sarita and you have a good point. My

problem is one of ego and it's not mine. LOL. Duress with the

possibility of a successful solution is an expectable equation. Like

in the life of a honey gather one expects to be stung to obtain the

sweet rewards of life and one has to learn the value of the hive being

invaded by wasps or taken over by killer bees. One has to be wise to

know if the stings along the way will reap a reward or it is a dead end.

 

My actual work situation isn't that bad, really, within a month the

top employee will retire and then I will be at the top of the food

chain. As far as the new boss well he does give me a lot of leeway and

a wide birth, they haven't anyone that can replace me, yet. It's kind

of one of those fine lines between `I'm too old for this stuff, and AH

there may be a lesson to be learned.

 

Actually there is one, a lesson that is, that if I put my energies

into that company to make it flourish, the honey will pour like water,

but that will never happen. There is where you determine if the goal

is worth the stings of the bee. The knowing that any knowledge and

actions ventured has consequences. I know I'm running in circles and

speaking in metaphors and vaguely expressing my feelings. But it is my

feeling what will happen this year and in the next few years will take

most by surprise. I am saying that as the energies are building and

some of this energy is manifesting is like the hippy revolt back in

the 60's. Kind of goes along with this job discussion, people are

becoming complacent, becoming aggravated with their working

conditions, questioning the direction in which leaders are taking

them. And most of all there is a renewal in the search for their dreams.

 

Liberte De Penser,

Ben

 

 

 

, " celticvoice6 "

<celticvoice6 wrote:

>

> Perhaps it depends also on how long you have been dealing with

> this. A situation that cannot be fixed, may mean leaving. But yes,

> I think that learning the lessons first is best, then see what

> happens. CV

>

>

>

>

> , " Sarita "

> <sarita1969@> wrote:

> >

> > Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but wouldn't it be important

> to

> > learn to deal with these situations, learn the lessons from them,

> > rather than leaving the job?

 

 

 

> > , " ben_hangen "

> > <ben_hangen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Thomas I can identify with everything you are going through. I

> work

> > in

> > > manufacturing and recently we went through a restructure in

> > > management.