Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 i think its just the word that bothers me. i was raised jewish, and if you talk to most jews.. they are very cynical about the religion. the jealous old tastement Yahweh just doens't work anymore and i was always turned off by religion growing up. when people use the word God, it turns me off. i adhere more to the Buddhist metaphysical beliefs of reality being emptiness. chrism, one of the affirmations you talked about was " I am still and I am one with God " but that doens't sit right with me. i think of God as the totality of reality. everything. so to say " now i'm one with god " that implies that at some time you were not one with god. but that is paradoxical. i'm trying to think more nondualistically and sometimes it hurts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 The reason for saying mantra's, as I see it, is that even though the mind understands the principle of being " one with God " the reality is we still live in the illusion of seperation. There is a difference in " knowing " something to having " realised " something. To realise something is to fully absorb and live a knowledge where as to think it is to merely have an idea of it as a truth within the mind. So, the point in stating things as words is to more fully intergrate a truth in to your very cells and being until it totally merges with you bringing a new level of realisation with it. Like the mantra " Who am I? " to find self realisation, well of course you mentally know who you are, but by asking more and more deeply, you reach " self realisation " . You activate the truth of who you are within. Hope this makes sense! Love and blessings Elektra x x x > " I am still and I > am one with God " but that doens't sit right with me. > i think of God as > the totality of reality. everything. so to say " now > i'm one with god " > that implies that at some time you were not one with > god. but that is > paradoxical. _________ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with For Good http://uk.promotions./forgood/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Do you not believe in God or maybe it's the many religions that you do not fully believe in maybe ? I believe the affirmation of " I am still and I am one with God " is a good mantra to help remove this veil of separation of ego . I believe God is always within us but that does not me that I am fully at one with God . While there is this ego of separation , I do not believe we can fully comprehend being at one with God . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 The word " God " carries a lot of cultural and political baggage that can make people uncomfortable. To me, " God " conjures images of an old patriarch with a long white beard and a repressive view of society and politics. I prefer to talk about " the Divine " instead. No gender, no history, no politics, no human-type personality. Not yet, at least. Sel , " Chris_H " <chghes1 wrote: > > > Do you not believe in God or maybe it's the many religions that you do > not fully believe in maybe ? I believe the affirmation of " I am still > and I am one with God " is a good mantra to help remove this veil of > separation of ego . I believe God is always within us but that does > not me that I am fully at one with God . While there is this ego of > separation , I do not believe we can fully comprehend being at one > with God . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Funny, the word " divine " brings to my mind gypsie and fortune teller and such. LOL! Linda , " selena230 " <selena230 wrote: > > The word " God " carries a lot of cultural and political baggage that > can make people uncomfortable. To me, " God " conjures images of an old > patriarch with a long white beard and a repressive view of society and > politics. I prefer to talk about " the Divine " instead. No gender, no > history, no politics, no human-type personality. Not yet, at least. > > Sel > > , " Chris_H " > <chghes1@> wrote: > > > > > > Do you not believe in God or maybe it's the many religions that you do > > not fully believe in maybe ? I believe the affirmation of " I am still > > and I am one with God " is a good mantra to help remove this veil of > > separation of ego . I believe God is always within us but that does > > not me that I am fully at one with God . While there is this ego of > > separation , I do not believe we can fully comprehend being at one > > with God . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 In affirming our oneness with God, we are surrendering our ego to divine intent, Reguardless of weather we understand this oneness or not. Reguardless of our understanding of what God is, it is thru this surrender that we gain a contact with this higher power. It is then that we begin to learn the true nature of ourselves and this higher power that we call God. This is also one of the reasons for meditation. Because we are seeking to understand that which is not of this realm, we must sharpen our senses thru meditation which, over time, will allow us to comprehend these inner worlds. Remember that when we leave this world, we can't take our 5(?) senses with us. This world is full of dogma and mis-conceptions about God and the inner worlds. Thru my own experience, I have learned that if you provide the right conditions, God will find you! Love and Light Bob -- In , " misha " <mixolyd wrote: > > i think its just the word that bothers me. > i was raised jewish, and if you talk to most jews.. they are very > cynical about the religion. the jealous old tastement Yahweh just > doens't work anymore and i was always turned off by religion growing up. > > when people use the word God, it turns me off. i adhere more to the > Buddhist metaphysical beliefs of reality being emptiness. > > chrism, one of the affirmations you talked about was " I am still and I > am one with God " but that doens't sit right with me. i think of God as > the totality of reality. everything. so to say " now i'm one with god " > that implies that at some time you were not one with god. but that is > paradoxical. i'm trying to think more nondualistically and sometimes > it hurts > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 At 02:26 PM 3/4/2008, you wrote: >The word " God " carries a lot of cultural and political baggage that >can make people uncomfortable. To me, " God " conjures images of an old >patriarch with a long white beard and a repressive view of society and >politics. I prefer to talk about " the Divine " instead. No gender, no >history, no politics, no human-type personality. Not yet, at least. > >Sel Personally I like the " Jedi " idea of " The Force " ... and I totally get where you are coming from. But I still sometimes use the word " God " when I am addressing someone who I feel still holds the anthropomorphic/Christian vision in their head, I feel people are more responsive when you speak to them in terms they are comfortable with. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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