death and realization

[Guest guest]

namaste

 

I was thinking about enlightenment and reincarnation. i believe in

both the buddhist and hindu paths upon reaching enlightenment you are

free from reincarnation, because the desire for worldy pleasures is

gone. no " me " exists to desire. but what happens when the body dies?

is it like a drop going back to the ocean with all personality gone?

do you in spirit fly around in astral realms hanging out with archetypes?

 

mikael

[Guest guest]

Hello Mikael

 

Life is abundant all around us, in this world and many other realms.

The most commonly known are the Astral, mental, causal,etheric and

soul planes. These names may very depending upon a persons belief

system and are presented only as an example. These realms are just as

active and full of life as our physical universe.

 

The important thing right now is to be all that you can be and do not

hinder yourself with restrictive beliefs, be open to experience life

as it truly is. Where the heart and soul goes, the mind will

follow. Don't let your mind do the leading.

 

As says " no worries " , you are headed in the right direction.

 

Love and Light

bob

 

 

 

, " misha "

<mixolyd wrote:

>

> namaste

>

> I was thinking about enlightenment and reincarnation. i believe in

> both the buddhist and hindu paths upon reaching enlightenment you

are

> free from reincarnation, because the desire for worldy pleasures is

> gone. no " me " exists to desire. but what happens when the body dies?

> is it like a drop going back to the ocean with all personality gone?

> do you in spirit fly around in astral realms hanging out with

archetypes?

>

> mikael

>

[Guest guest]

I think some aspect of personality survives. The " nature " part. The " nurture "

part can be altered by experience. I have an " in-between-lives " memory, and I

was still clearly " me " in that fragment. I have recognized at least a dozen

people who were in that memory - people I met more than 20 years after I

recovered that memory. I knew them all the moment I met them. Yet things have

not all gone as I expected ... I think there is an aspect of uncertainty about

just how much of our paths we'll tread in a given lifetime, and it may not

always go where we expect. That's half the " fun " of it ;-)

 

Brandi

 

 

[Guest guest]

The " I Am' part of our awareness is what survives the physical death. Call this

" Soul " or " Spirit " or " Pure consciousness " as many people do use different

words. If you want to read first hand experience of people who have died

" Clinically " and came back, you may visit the site :

http://www.near-death.com

http://www.nderf.org.

Then there is DR.Sam Parnia, a renowned medical doctor of Londson, who has

carried out research for ten years and published results suggesting that the

human consciousness survives physical death.

http://www.horizonresearch.org

Regards

Venugopal

 

Brandi Jasmine <jazztalk wrote: I

think some aspect of personality survives. The " nature " part. The " nurture " part

can be altered by experience. I have an " in-between-lives " memory, and I was

still clearly " me " in that fragment. I have recognized at least a dozen people

who were in that memory - people I met more than 20 years after I recovered that

memory. I knew them all the moment I met them. Yet things have not all gone as I

expected ... I think there is an aspect of uncertainty about just how much of

our paths we'll tread in a given lifetime, and it may not always go where we

expect. That's half the " fun " of it ;-)

 

Brandi

 

[Guest guest]

I have been out of my body before, so I know that is possible. But last

July, when my heart stopped for the second time, as my wife describes it, I

came out of my body while being treated (shocked, etc.) and pulled her out

of hers (first time for her) and was holding her that way. We could have

left then (both of us) but I remembered our daughter and basically pushed

her back to her body while I returned to mine. Unfortunately, I can't

remember this at all, nor anything from the first time my heart stopped and

I was shocked until about 10 days later when they took me off of the drugs

that were keeping me unconscious, even though the next day I was up, aware

and talking. It was due to a severe case of aspiration pneumonia that

developed a few days later that they drugged me. I wonder if those memories

can be recovered as the Kundalini activates the various centers. I do

remember light, and a wavering quality to what I could see.

 

 

 

Thomas

 

 

 

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On Behalf Of

Venugopal AK

Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:48 AM

 

Re: Re: death and realization

 

 

 

The " I Am' part of our awareness is what survives the physical death. Call

this " Soul " or " Spirit " or " Pure consciousness " as many people do use

different words. If you want to read first hand experience of people who

have died " Clinically " and came back, you may visit the site :

http://www.near- <http://www.near-death.com> death.com

http://www.nderf. <http://www.nderf.org.> org.

Then there is DR.Sam Parnia, a renowned medical doctor of Londson, who has

carried out research for ten years and published results suggesting that the

human consciousness survives physical death.

http://www.horizonr <http://www.horizonresearch.org> esearch.org

Regards

Venugopal

 

Brandi Jasmine <jazztalk (AT) bjasmine (DOT) <jazztalk%40bjasmine.com> com>

wrote: I think some aspect of personality survives. The " nature " part. The

" nurture " part can be altered by experience. I have an " in-between-lives "

memory, and I was still clearly " me " in that fragment. I have recognized at

least a dozen people who were in that memory - people I met more than 20

years after I recovered that memory. I knew them all the moment I met them.

Yet things have not all gone as I expected ... I think there is an aspect of

uncertainty about just how much of our paths we'll tread in a given

lifetime, and it may not always go where we expect. That's half the " fun " of

it ;-)

 

Brandi