Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 On Sunday chrism and I were working on the work book for the seminar in a coffee shop. We were not getting anywhere because of my vista program. We were talking and about to leave when this Oriental gentleman sat down next to me. I was in a corner seat. He proceeded to start talking to me. It was difficult to hear him because the place was loud with music and he had an accent, but I was catching some of what he was saying. He was talking in riddles. I am not into riddles and I was in a not so happy mood. I just did not feel like dealing with anyone at that time but the guy kept on. chrism just kept telling me to listen to him - chrism could not hear what he was saying. When the guy asked for my hand - chrism told me to give it to him. I was not comfortable with this at all and then the guy kept scooting closer and touching me - I kept moving into the corner and looking at chrism who just kept telling me to listen and give him my hand. Which I reluctantly did. Well one would think I would have caught on, but I did not - I was too into my feeling yucky and not liking the fact the guy was touching me. But what could I do? I was trapped and getting a directive that I really did not want to follow. At one time he said that chrism was not part of this or some such thing. I was resisting big time and heard only part of what he was saying. He wanted my left hand - he said " See the butterfly above your hand. What happens if you catch the butterfly? " I said it would die - yes he agreed and " If you do not catch it - it either will land on your hand or fly away- it is free to choose. " Then he said what if the prince gave his lady a beautiful rose. She hangs it on the wall - what happens- I said it would die and he replied " But every time she walks by the rose she smells the rose. OK I got the story - Then he said something and all I heard was the word " forgiveness " I just broke down - so here I am sitting with my guide and this unknown man and crying - feeling like a complete idiot but I could not get away without really making a scene. So I sat there. Then he was talking about how there are 3 principles for something fear-------and inspiration- he repeated this but I was not listening well at all. He asked a number of times " Are you OK? and I replied " No I am not OK! He keep looking at me intently and getting closer as he did. And he kept right on talking - " Do you need your car? Do you need your house etc? Everything has no meaning - what do you have when you die? " I replied " my spirit " and he said " your soul " so this I understood - we do not die completely - our spirit lives on -our essence lives on and I am asking myself " why is he talking about death?' chrism then tried to engage the fella by asking some info - his phone number etc. and trying to talk to the guy but the guy was into his riddles and not answering chrism's ?'s. Finally chrism got up and left and I was able to get out - the last thing he said to me was " you have been hurt " OK that was it- I left the place very quickly. I did not see chrism so I got in my car and then I saw c sitting outside at a table but I was really upset and just left trying to drive as I was crying. Not easy! I took the wrong turn so I had to stop and ask where I was. So then I get a call from c asking me where I was - he had me come back. I find out this man was sent to me - he was to teach me. OK----- so how was I to know this? I need a map not riddles. So lesson learned- anyone and everyone is a teacher in some way and I need to pay more attention and maybe not be so emotional so I can be more open to lessons as they are presented. I am so grateful c was there - he assured me he would not have let anything happen to me, when I let him know how uncomfortable it was letting that guy touch me- I mean I like to be touched but not by a guy I do not know and c did not really see how the fella was looking at me - very intensely as he leaned in. c and I agreed to meet there the the next day for the fella kept asking me if I would come back the next day. Of course I never really answered him, but we went there today. I was not sure what I would have said - other than I was told to thank him for his teachings - I did take a notebook in case he would answer my questions. I plan to go back there to check to see if he does show up. Today when he was not there I said " maybe he was a phantom " All last night I was thinking of what happened and trying to remember more of what he said. So here I sit having missed a gift from Shakti. So I keep saying I have to be told point blank about what to do on this path - I take things very literally I do not get into reading things into anything - riddles - not my thing- A suggestion for anyone who has begun this path - be diligent when meeting people - anyone of them may be a teacher sent to give - a lesson just for you. So along with working on being forgiving, disciplined and learning to feel good about myself I can add being less emotional, less reactive and to pay more attention to my world around me. Does this list ever end- is there any part of me that I do not need to work on? This list keeps getting longer. The first step is to acknowlege the problems - well I got that down - yes I know there are problems -and they keep multiplying...so it seems. Yet of late it does not seem all hopeless - there are happy feelings - there are smiles - there are good discussions with others- there are couchsurfers visiting tomorrow - and everyone who crosses my path is here for a reason - this I now know- progress maybe??? I just realized this occurred on Palm Sunday - hummmmmmmm... And every time I reread the words I see more lessons that I could have tuned into but did not - until now...Kind of like a puzzle to decipher - those riddles once again.... Thank you for reading - the lessons never end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 This reminds me of something that happened a few years ago, during a time when I was going through a period of intense drama for your mama due to being involved online with some negative people. That part is a long story, but suffice it to say there was some element of paranoia active in my daily life at that time. One Sunday I kept getting an inner urge to go have breakfast at this local restaurant. I resisted this for a couple of hours but it wouldn't leave, so I decided to go ahead and go, to see what was waiting for me. I went to my normal table, watching for whatever it was G-d had in store for me, but nothing at all happened. I was slightly disappointed, and went to pay my bill, feeling not a little foolish. I paid my bill, and turned to leave when a man sitting at the end of the lunch counter having coffee said, " Excuse me sir. " I turned and was looking into two of the biggest blue eyes I have ever seen, and intense. His hands were also very large. He said to me, " If you want to enter the Kingdom of G-d, first you have to be chased by the Devil. " I was shocked, and didn't have a ready answer, but then he said " Spend some time in church. " I got indignant, you know, the religious nuts are all over the place, LOL, and blubbered something like " I'm my own church " . I turned and walked away, and he threw after me, " And don't abuse yourself! " This was very strange talk for a religious nut. I hurried out, but never forgot what he said. I wish I had gone back and talked to him some more. Nobody at the restaurant that I asked had ever seen him before, or didn't remember him. Thomas _____ On Behalf Of Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:18 AM Teacher visit.ation.. On Sunday chrism and I were working on the work book for the seminar in a coffee shop. We were not getting anywhere because of my vista program. We were talking and about to leave when this Oriental gentleman sat down next to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Thanks for sharing this . There is a lesson in every experience if we choose to see it. Maybe you didn't mess up, maybe you were supposed to realize that teachers and gifts come in many forms and next time you will be more accepting. A great reminder for all of us. Sarita , " " . wrote: > > > > On Sunday chrism and I were working on the work book for the seminar > in a coffee shop. We were not getting anywhere because of my vista > program. We were talking and about to leave when this Oriental > gentleman sat down next to me. I was in a corner seat. He proceeded > to start talking to me. It was difficult to hear him because the > place was loud with music and he had an accent, but I was catching > some of what he was saying. He was talking in riddles. I am not > into riddles and I was in a not so happy mood. > > I just did not feel like dealing with anyone at that time but the > guy kept on. chrism just kept telling me to listen to him - chrism > could not hear what he was saying. When the guy asked for my hand - > chrism told me to give it to him. I was not comfortable with this at > all and then the guy kept scooting closer and touching me - I kept > moving into the corner and looking at chrism who just kept telling me > to listen and give him my hand. Which I reluctantly did. > > Well one would think I would have caught on, but I did not - I was > too into my feeling yucky and not liking the fact the guy was > touching me. But what could I do? I was trapped and getting a > directive that I really did not want to follow. At one time he said > that chrism was not part of this or some such thing. > > I was resisting big time and heard only part of what he was saying. > He wanted my left hand - he said " See the butterfly above your hand. > What happens if you catch the butterfly? " I said it would die - yes > he agreed and " If you do not catch it - it either will land on your > hand or fly away- it is free to choose. " > > Then he said what if the prince gave his lady a beautiful rose. She > hangs it on the wall - what happens- I said it would die and he > replied " But every time she walks by the rose she smells the > rose. OK I got the story - > > Then he said something and all I heard was the word " forgiveness " I > just broke down - so here I am sitting with my guide and this unknown > man and crying - feeling like a complete idiot but I could not get > away without really making a scene. So I sat there. Then he was > talking about how there are 3 principles for something fear------- and > inspiration- he repeated this but I was not listening well at all. > > He asked a number of times " Are you OK? and I replied " No I am not > OK! He keep looking at me intently and getting closer as he did. > And he kept right on talking - > > " Do you need your car? Do you need your house etc? Everything has > no meaning - what do you have when you die? " I replied " my spirit " > and he said " your soul " so this I understood - we do not die > completely - our spirit lives on -our essence lives on and I am > asking myself " why is he talking about death?' > > chrism then tried to engage the fella by asking some info - his phone > number etc. and trying to talk to the guy but the guy was into his > riddles and not answering chrism's ?'s. Finally chrism got up and > left and I was able to get out - the last thing he said to me was > " you have been hurt " OK that was it- I left the place very quickly. > I did not see chrism so I got in my car and then I saw c sitting > outside at a table but I was really upset and just left trying to > drive as I was crying. Not easy! I took the wrong turn so I had to > stop and ask where I was. > > So then I get a call from c asking me where I was - he had me come > back. I find out this man was sent to me - he was to teach me. > OK----- so how was I to know this? I need a map not riddles. > > So lesson learned- anyone and everyone is a teacher in some way and > I need to pay more attention and maybe not be so emotional so I can > be more open to lessons as they are presented. > > I am so grateful c was there - he assured me he would not have let > anything happen to me, when I let him know how uncomfortable it was > letting that guy touch me- I mean I like to be touched but not by a > guy I do not know and c did not really see how the fella was looking > at me - very intensely as he leaned in. c and I agreed to meet there > the the next day for the fella kept asking me if I would come back > the next day. Of course I never really answered him, but we went > there today. I was not sure what I would have said - other than I > was told to thank him for his teachings - I did take a notebook in > case he would answer my questions. > > I plan to go back there to check to see if he does show up. Today > when he was not there I said " maybe he was a phantom " > > All last night I was thinking of what happened and trying to remember > more of what he said. So here I sit having missed a gift from > Shakti. So I keep saying I have to be told point blank about what to > do on this path - I take things very literally I do not get into > reading things into anything - riddles - not my thing- > > A suggestion for anyone who has begun this path - be diligent when > meeting people - anyone of them may be a teacher sent to give - a > lesson just for you. > > > So along with working on being forgiving, disciplined and learning to > feel good about myself I can add being less emotional, less reactive > and to pay more attention to my world around me. Does this list ever > end- is there any part of me that I do not need to work on? This > list keeps getting longer. The first step is to acknowlege the > problems - well I got that down - yes I know there are problems - and > they keep multiplying...so it seems. > > Yet of late it does not seem all hopeless - there are happy feelings - > there are smiles - there are good discussions with others- there are > couchsurfers visiting tomorrow - and everyone who crosses my path is > here for a reason - this I now know- progress maybe??? > > I just realized this occurred on Palm Sunday - hummmmmmmm... > And every time I reread the words I see more lessons that I could > have tuned into but did not - until now...Kind of like a puzzle to > decipher - those riddles once again.... > > > Thank you for reading - the lessons never end... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I have had somewhat of a similar experience too. One Sunday while at church it was revealed to me by spirit that my chruch family was breaking apart and my pastor would be leaving. When I left the services that day I went to the park to a secluded spot to be alone and have a good cry about it. This man appeared seemingly from nowhere. I guess I was too busy crying to notice anyone was there besides me. LOL! Anyways, he comes over to me and he doesn't say anything about me crying. He just said, " I can see you are a very blessed woman, get up and go home to your husband and children and be thankful for what you have. " So I did just that, but I was somewhat in shock that someone would just come up and say such a thing to a total stranger. LOL! That day turned out to be a turning point,actually. Things in my life seemed to go from bad to worse not with just the church situation, but family things too and my health going down hill. That guys words stuck with me through those years and it helped me get through lots of stuff. I had a lot of chances to practice being grateful, even for what seems to be the small things in life, but they are really the greatest things, and even learning to be grateful for those seemingly " not so great things " that were taking place. Ha! After all they did get me to where I am today and I am a stronger me spiritually because of. I am very grateful for still being here in the physical learning to love more unconditionally, even myself. Also learned to forgive more readily through all that, but not only to forgive, but to be more detached or more an observer of events which helps to not get so emotional or take offense to things said or done to me in the first place. Love, Linda , " Thomas Brooks " <magick41 wrote: > > This reminds me of something that happened a few years ago, during a time > when I was going through a period of intense drama for your mama due to > being involved online with some negative people. That part is a long story, > but suffice it to say there was some element of paranoia active in my daily > life at that time. > > > > One Sunday I kept getting an inner urge to go have breakfast at this local > restaurant. I resisted this for a couple of hours but it wouldn't leave, so > I decided to go ahead and go, to see what was waiting for me. I went to my > normal table, watching for whatever it was G-d had in store for me, but > nothing at all happened. I was slightly disappointed, and went to pay my > bill, feeling not a little foolish. I paid my bill, and turned to leave > when a man sitting at the end of the lunch counter having coffee said, > " Excuse me sir. " I turned and was looking into two of the biggest blue eyes > I have ever seen, and intense. His hands were also very large. He said to > me, " If you want to enter the Kingdom of G-d, first you have to be chased by > the Devil. " I was shocked, and didn't have a ready answer, but then he said > " Spend some time in church. " I got indignant, you know, the religious nuts > are all over the place, LOL, and blubbered something like " I'm my own > church " . I turned and walked away, and he threw after me, " And don't abuse > yourself! " This was very strange talk for a religious nut. I hurried out, > but never forgot what he said. I wish I had gone back and talked to him > some more. Nobody at the restaurant that I asked had ever seen him before, > or didn't remember him. > > > > Thomas > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of > Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:18 AM > > Teacher visit.ation.. > > > > > > On Sunday chrism and I were working on the work book for the seminar > in a coffee shop. We were not getting anywhere because of my vista > program. We were talking and about to leave when this Oriental > gentleman sat down next to me. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Wow, , thanks for sharing this. I saw the whole thing in my head as I read this. I'm a literal person too, I need it written down for me. The driving and crying thing, I've done that quite often. blessings lisa wrote: > > > > On Sunday chrism and I were working on the work book for the seminar > in a coffee shop. We were not getting anywhere because of my vista > program. We were talking and about to leave when this Oriental > gentleman sat down next to me. I was in a corner seat. He proceeded > to start talking to me. It was difficult to hear him because the > place was loud with music and he had an accent, but I was catching > some of what he was saying. He was talking in riddles. I am not > into riddles and I was in a not so happy mood. > > I just did not feel like dealing with anyone at that time but the > guy kept on. chrism just kept telling me to listen to him - chrism > could not hear what he was saying. When the guy asked for my hand - > chrism told me to give it to him. I was not comfortable with this at > all and then the guy kept scooting closer and touching me - I kept > moving into the corner and looking at chrism who just kept telling me > to listen and give him my hand. Which I reluctantly did. > > Well one would think I would have caught on, but I did not - I was > too into my feeling yucky and not liking the fact the guy was > touching me. But what could I do? I was trapped and getting a > directive that I really did not want to follow. At one time he said > that chrism was not part of this or some such thing. > > I was resisting big time and heard only part of what he was saying. > He wanted my left hand - he said " See the butterfly above your hand. > What happens if you catch the butterfly? " I said it would die - yes > he agreed and " If you do not catch it - it either will land on your > hand or fly away- it is free to choose. " > > Then he said what if the prince gave his lady a beautiful rose. She > hangs it on the wall - what happens- I said it would die and he > replied " But every time she walks by the rose she smells the > rose. OK I got the story - > > Then he said something and all I heard was the word " forgiveness " I > just broke down - so here I am sitting with my guide and this unknown > man and crying - feeling like a complete idiot but I could not get > away without really making a scene. So I sat there. Then he was > talking about how there are 3 principles for something fear-------and > inspiration- he repeated this but I was not listening well at all. > > He asked a number of times " Are you OK? and I replied " No I am not > OK! He keep looking at me intently and getting closer as he did. > And he kept right on talking - > > " Do you need your car? Do you need your house etc? Everything has > no meaning - what do you have when you die? " I replied " my spirit " > and he said " your soul " so this I understood - we do not die > completely - our spirit lives on -our essence lives on and I am > asking myself " why is he talking about death?' > > chrism then tried to engage the fella by asking some info - his phone > number etc. and trying to talk to the guy but the guy was into his > riddles and not answering chrism's ?'s. Finally chrism got up and > left and I was able to get out - the last thing he said to me was > " you have been hurt " OK that was it- I left the place very quickly. > I did not see chrism so I got in my car and then I saw c sitting > outside at a table but I was really upset and just left trying to > drive as I was crying. Not easy! I took the wrong turn so I had to > stop and ask where I was. > > So then I get a call from c asking me where I was - he had me come > back. I find out this man was sent to me - he was to teach me. > OK----- so how was I to know this? I need a map not riddles. > > So lesson learned- anyone and everyone is a teacher in some way and > I need to pay more attention and maybe not be so emotional so I can > be more open to lessons as they are presented. > > I am so grateful c was there - he assured me he would not have let > anything happen to me, when I let him know how uncomfortable it was > letting that guy touch me- I mean I like to be touched but not by a > guy I do not know and c did not really see how the fella was looking > at me - very intensely as he leaned in. c and I agreed to meet there > the the next day for the fella kept asking me if I would come back > the next day. Of course I never really answered him, but we went > there today. I was not sure what I would have said - other than I > was told to thank him for his teachings - I did take a notebook in > case he would answer my questions. > > I plan to go back there to check to see if he does show up. Today > when he was not there I said " maybe he was a phantom " > > All last night I was thinking of what happened and trying to remember > more of what he said. So here I sit having missed a gift from > Shakti. So I keep saying I have to be told point blank about what to > do on this path - I take things very literally I do not get into > reading things into anything - riddles - not my thing- > > A suggestion for anyone who has begun this path - be diligent when > meeting people - anyone of them may be a teacher sent to give - a > lesson just for you. > > > So along with working on being forgiving, disciplined and learning to > feel good about myself I can add being less emotional, less reactive > and to pay more attention to my world around me. Does this list ever > end- is there any part of me that I do not need to work on? This > list keeps getting longer. The first step is to acknowlege the > problems - well I got that down - yes I know there are problems -and > they keep multiplying...so it seems. > > Yet of late it does not seem all hopeless - there are happy feelings - > there are smiles - there are good discussions with others- there are > couchsurfers visiting tomorrow - and everyone who crosses my path is > here for a reason - this I now know- progress maybe??? > > I just realized this occurred on Palm Sunday - hummmmmmmm... > And every time I reread the words I see more lessons that I could > have tuned into but did not - until now...Kind of like a puzzle to > decipher - those riddles once again.... > > > Thank you for reading - the lessons never end... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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