Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Thank for your clear and concise inquiries Ryan. My response may not have those characteristics for you and if this is so I apologize in advance. We must remember that the Sanskrit language is a multi plat formed communication with equal parts of devotional and genuflective aspects. It operates on more than the written word and meaning and permeates and activates certain qualities that aids its understanding. It is healing to the reader and communicative towards God. The God with in and the God without. There is so much to be experienced with the utterance of a single word. Memory engrams can be reactivated due to the reading of certain Sanskrit words or phrases that will not correspond with the current individual life experience that has been lived but is representative of other existence. This is what happens to me when I read certain Vedic material. For instance: " Amrita " as is mentioned in various ways in the Rig Veda and is what can be experienced when the Kundalini reaches a specific gland in the brain and is also referred to a " milk of the Goddess " or the " nectar of the Gods " among other names. When the ancient Vedic's write of this they do so in very poetic phrases as I mentioned in a previous post. For one who is active with awakened Kundalini this makes perfect sense as it is these areas of the human being, among many others, that are triggered into expression by the Kundalini. Remember the intelligence of the Kundalini as an intellect in its own right. The core code with in the person so to say. And you can begin to see that it isn't meant for those unaltered by Kundalini to have a complete understanding of the Rig Veda or many of the ancient texts, which from my perspective is replete with Kundalini references including the afore mentioned example of Amrita. So the K awakened person knows this as a clear message from the writers to the awakened one reading the phrase. And this message also comes through as waves of bliss in my experience for the K active person. This bliss is triggered not only by what is written but by the energetic signatures and Kundalini of those who wrote it. This is why I suggest that it takes a Kundalini awakened individual to understand what has been written by the ancient Vedic's when it comes to the Kundalini. I feel that it would be very difficult to be able to decipher using the " mental mind " alone what is really being offered in the texts especially as it concerns the Kundalini. -blessings Ryan - chrism Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " thecontemplative " <thecontemplative wrote: > > Hi Chrism > > > [the Rg-Veda is a] great read to " feel " . - blessings Ryan - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Hi Chrism, > Thank for your clear and concise inquiries Ryan. My response may > not have those characteristics for you and if this is so I >apologize in advance. No apology needed. While you are correct that it doesn't help much in terms of my search for evidence of Kundalini-specific-references prior to say 500 C.E., it was nonetheless a very interesting post. > Memory engrams can be reactivated due to the reading of certain > Sanskrit words or phrases that will not correspond with the current > individual life experience that has been lived but is >representative of other existence. This is what happens to me when I >read certain Vedic material. If I am reading you correctly, you are saying that there is an essential power within the Sanskrit language and that texts composed in it can have bits of spiritual information encoded (for lack of a better word) within them. Further, you are saying that this " information " can resonate with the individuals psycho-spiritual make up with powerful effects. If this is a reasonably accurate rephrasing of your ideas, I would comment that this is certainly a traditional viewpoint within various branches of Indic spirituality. It is also a " personal belief " I hold to be true. > " Amrita " as is mentioned in various ways in the Rig Veda and is > what can be experienced when the Kundalini reaches a specific gland > in the brain and is also referred to a " milk of the Goddess " or > the " nectar of the Gods " among other names. When the ancient Vedic's > write of this they do so in very poetic phrases as I mentioned in a The Sanskrit word amrta is a polysemous term to be sure. I feel that among the various meanings, the term amrta is used to refer to both an external " nectar " and to an internal " nectar " . I believe that kundalini-specific-texts tend to refer to the " internal " . I've seen no convincing evidence that the original meaning of the Rg- Veda's " amrta " was anything other than an external " nectar " or its archetypal divine prototype (i.e. " soma " ) For what is worth, I personally believe that external and internal amrta may be the same thing (or very similar things) and it is merely a question of an exogenous or endogenous sources. On the other hand, interpreting the Rg-Veda as referring to internal amrta has become a common hermeneutic technique in later Indian interpretive traditions. To me it is very unclear that such a polyvalent use of the term was intended originally. As to the idea that ancient spiritual texts can only be understood by people with awakened kundalini, I would tend to disagree. I feel that what is needed to fully understand these texts is actually some degree of " spiritual realization " . In my opinion, it does not matter if this realization was triggered by kundalini or another cause. Moreover, many folks can have quite active kundalini without yet having any significant " spiritual realization " . This is of course just a statement of my personal beliefs. Chrism, thank for your wonderful and thought provoking reply, Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Yes I agree with you Ryan regarding the ability for others to understand some of the ancient books with out the awakened Kundalini. I was pointing to those that I feel concern it (the Kundalini) directly. Nice to read you have similar experiences when reading some of these texts!- blessings and namaste to you Ryan! - chrism Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " thecontemplative " <thecontemplative wrote: > > Hi Chrism, . > > No apology needed. While you are correct that it doesn't help much in > terms of my search for evidence of Kundalini-specific-references > prior to say 500 C.E., it was nonetheless a very interesting post. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 >- blessings and namaste to you Ryan! - chrism Ditto. Chrism, I have say you seem to be a beautiful person to talk to. Full of energy, love and light. You seem to uplift those you talk with. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I second and third that! ;-) Sarita Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " thecontemplative " <thecontemplative wrote: > > > > >- blessings and namaste to you Ryan! - chrism > > Ditto. > > Chrism, I have say you seem to be a beautiful person to talk to. Full > of energy, love and light. You seem to uplift those you talk with. > > Ryan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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