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May 24, 2008

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Hi, I'm new to this forum. Allow me to introduce myself. I'm Della and

I live in British Columbia, Canada. Two things have and are happening to

me. Right now as I write this to you my feelings are very raw and

powerful. I'm am filled with anger at having another door slamed on me.

I just found out that for some reason a particular Reverand at the

Lighthouse Spiritualist Church close to were I live refuses to listen to

me and help me. I was told that she is a very gifted medium who is

capable of connecting with lower vibration spirits. She told me that she

was too busy to bother with me. What kind of crap is that! [X-(]

Anyway the two things that are happening to me. I have the classic

symptoms of spiritual awakening. Both physical and mental. This

awakening has excelerated over the last few years. The second thing is

that there is a lower vibration spirit occupying my body. And this is

bad stuff! It talks inside of me, makes use of my mental imagery, does

things to my body that are supernatural. I will explain more soon, but

first I need leave the cumputer. I'll be back.

May 24, 2008

Hello Della welcome,

If she used those words it is just plain rude. As

far as the entity goes there are ways for you to respond to this

yourself and so perhaps the rudeness was a gift in disguise. Can you

forgive her? -

, " Della "

<fire_blowin_dragon wrote:

Hi, I'm new to this forum.

May 24, 2008

At 02:15 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:

>Hi, I'm new to this forum. Allow me to introduce myself. I'm Della and

>I live in British Columbia, Canada.

Vancouver? Ugh. I was raised there. Beautiful scenery but there is a powerful

energy vortex in BC and Alberta, very few people I know who are truly sensitive

are capable of handling it well. I had to move to get myself clear, I hope

that's not the case for you. I won't tell you to move, but I will say I'd have

to be dragged back kicking and screaming ...

>was too busy to bother with me. What kind of crap is that! [X-(]

Chrism is right, that was rude ... and that could be a blessing in disguise. I

remember dealing with K in the 80's and I can tell you stories about the

Birkenstock crowd there (laugh - " IF you needed any help with your awakening

dear, you'd be able to manifest the $2,000 for the Kundalini course " ). Gawd love

them, though, I did find people who were able and willing to help me. Vancouver

in particular has a large spiritual community, but they tend to be a bit ... how

do I say this ... sorry " snobby " is the only word that fits. :-( ... there are

some exceptions thought. Try the Banyen Bookstore. See who they can recommend

now. It's been years since I have been to BC.

Brandi

May 24, 2008

Dallas is like that too. And there's no reason for it. The energy

here is good, but people just want to make a wad of money off it.

Peter

, Brandi Jasmine

<jazztalk wrote:

>

> At 02:15 PM 5/24/2008, you wrote:

> >Hi, I'm new to this forum. Allow me to introduce myself. I'm Della and

> >I live in British Columbia, Canada.

>

> Vancouver? Ugh. I was raised there. Beautiful scenery but there is a

powerful energy vortex in BC and Alberta, very few people I know who

are truly sensitive are capable of handling it well. I had to move to

get myself clear, I hope that's not the case for you. I won't tell you

to move, but I will say I'd have to be dragged back kicking and

screaming ...

>

> >was too busy to bother with me. What kind of crap is that! [X-(]

>

> is right, that was rude ... and that could be a blessing in

disguise. I remember dealing with K in the 80's and I can tell you

stories about the Birkenstock crowd there (laugh - " IF you needed any

help with your awakening dear, you'd be able to manifest the $2,000

for the Kundalini course " ). Gawd love them, though, I did find people

who were able and willing to help me. Vancouver in particular has a

large spiritual community, but they tend to be a bit ... how do I say

this ... sorry " snobby " is the only word that fits. :-( ... there are

some exceptions thought. Try the Banyen Bookstore. See who they can

recommend now. It's been years since I have been to BC.

>

> Brandi

>

May 25, 2008

Welcome Della,

If someone is not helping you I would just see it as a sign that it is the wrong

direction to go in, no need for anger. I have found that when one avenue is not

working it's usually because it is the wrong direction to take.

This entity is a lesson for you or a guide and you do not need to rely on others

to do things for you, I'm sure you can take care of it yourself.

If you change your own internal emotions to only love and peace then they have

nothing to feed on and lose interest.

But, I do not fully know what you are going through , only you do, but I have

faith that you " know " what to do about it and also many others here have been

through similar situations and can give you what worked for them.

Love and hugs and welcomes

elektra x x x

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May 29, 2008

, " Della "

<fire_blowin_dragon wrote:

>

> []

>

> Hi, I'm new to this forum. Allow me to introduce myself. I'm Della and

> I live in British Columbia, Canada. Two things have and are happening

to

> me. Right now as I write this to you my feelings are very raw and

> powerful. I'm am filled with anger at having another door slamed on

me.

> I just found out that for some reason a particular Reverand at the

> Lighthouse Spiritualist Church close to were I live refuses to listen

to

> me and help me. I was told that she is a very gifted medium who is

> capable of connecting with lower vibration spirits. She told me that

she

> was too busy to bother with me. What kind of crap is that! [X-(]

>

> Anyway the two things that are happening to me. I have the classic

> symptoms of spiritual awakening. Both physical and mental. This

> awakening has excelerated over the last few years. The second thing is

> that there is a lower vibration spirit occupying my body. And this is

> bad stuff! It talks inside of me, makes use of my mental imagery, does

> things to my body that are supernatural. I will explain more soon, but

> first I need leave the cumputer. I'll be back.

>

May 29, 2008

Hi Della! From my rudimentary understanding of entities,

anger/fear/hatred are their food. Forgiveness and love are

attributes that we need to strive for when going through a K

awakening and ones that might send this entity packing.

Have you read over the Safeties? They provide a terrific springboard

for living a good life as well as awakening the Kundalini in a safe

way.

Sarita

> >

> Hi, this is Della. I just would like to add more to my story.

This is

> especially for Chrism. Now about this lower vibration entity that is

> occupying my body. Now, that Reverand and this other medium that was

> working with her to get a connection on this thing at the time I

went to

> see her told me only that it was " male " . They refused to tell me

more

> about this danged thing stating that I would only create some kind

of

> mental image of it. I had wanted to know as much about it as

possible.

> How do I know that it isn't some kind of weird manifestation coming

from

> my brain do to haywire chemistry. What was wrong with knowing all

that I

> could about it? And the they told me some mumbo-jumbo crap that I

was

> empowering it by hating it. I told them that I could not love it or

for

> that matter foregive it! When you are dealing with a stupid thing

with

> the mental capacity of a 5-10 year old that is snaughty, trying,

> unrelenting at everything it does, perverted, arrogant,

condisending,

> controlling, bassically the BIGGEST creep around. For me naturally

I'm

> going to be repulsed by it and hate it. It's a disease to me. What

> stands out about this thing is that it has no recollection of its

> existance of when it was alive other then its miserable bitterness.

Oh

> and another thing it can't take no for an answer. I have told it to

> leave in so many ways I can't count. Through all this my mind has

stayed

> really intact. Other then my fustration and utter contempt for this

> thing I am more of me than I have ever been plus of course I am

going

> through a Kundlini Awakening.

>

> There are some other things I would like to share with you. Mounths

ago

> when it was cold and rainy I saw a thought-form coming from my cat

> buster! My first though-form. Wow! Over the last few years I've have

> been getting glimpses into the Crocodile Hunter's life and into his

> spirit's life that I never knew before and/or knowone else knew.

>

May 30, 2008

At 09:05 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:

>How do I know that it isn't some kind of weird manifestation coming from

>my brain do to haywire chemistry.

It doesn't matter whether it is " real " or a figment of your imagination. The

advice we could give for dealing with it would probably be the same regardless,

and while we're all pretty intuitive, none of us knows the answer to that with

absolute certainty. If I were in your shoes and had any serious doubts about

that, I'd talk to my doctor about it. I'm not a big fan of psycho-pharmacology,

but I would not want to take the chance of overlooking something medical. I

don't think you'd be asking here though if you seriously thought that was the

case.

>What was wrong with knowing all that I could about it?

Knowing what it is, what it looks like, is part of the trap these things use on

us to keep us engaged. As long as you are fighting it, you remain engaged.

That's what it wants. You said it yourself, you feel a lot of frustration and

contempt and hatred for this thing, and that's their food.

>And the they told me some mumbo-jumbo crap that I was

>empowering it by hating it. I told them that I could not love it or for

>that matter foregive it!

I can't speak for anyone but me - but I strongly suspect that you won't hear any

different here. Let me put it this way ... is what you are doing now working?

>I have told it to leave in so many ways I can't count.

Clearly it's not working ... so why do you think more of the same will change

anything? Why are you so reluctant to let go of your anger? What will you lose

if you do so?

Brandi

May 30, 2008

Bringing anything like this up to a MD is more likely to invite an

enforced and extended stay to the psych ward. I do not recommend that

you talk to any physician about Kundalini related matters unless that

MD is familiar with the fact of its existence and effect upon the

body.

Working through your strong emotions and feelings about this I feel is

the best way to approach it. But it is up to you Della. I feel Brandi

makes some other points you may wish to consider. -

, Brandi Jasmine

<jazztalk wrote:

I'd talk to my doctor about it. I'm not a big fan of psycho-

pharmacology, but I would not want to take the chance of overlooking

something medical. I don't think you'd be asking here though if you

seriously thought that was the case.

>

May 30, 2008

Della,

I'm pretty new here and still have much to learn, but here are some

thoughts that may be helpful...

When mosquitoes attack you to drink your blood, do you respond with

anger and hatred? It's just their nature - they're doing what

mosquitoes do.

Some entities feed on strong negative emotions. Others feed on any

attention and will do what they can to get us to focus on them, to

interact with them. When you focus on them you give them energy.

I think you need to disengage yourself from this entity. If love and

forgiveness are difficult right now, try dispassion and

indifference. Or humor. Turn your attention to brighter things. If

you can turn your attention to things that fill you with happiness,

joy, light and laughter, this entity may lose interest. You no

longer taste good. Increase your vibration to keep the lower astral

bugs away.

Ask the Kundalini to help - she can take you to bright happy states

of attention. If love and forgiveness are hard for you to summon up

on your own, ask the Goddess for help with that too. Practice the

safeties. Do physical exercise. Be careful what you focus on. Ask

the Shakti to turn your attention towards dimensions of light. If

you can't feel love for the entity, just try to fill yourself with

love, as an antidote to other, more negative emotions. Try to fall

in love with the Shakti, or whatever form of the Divine appeals to

you.

So bless it and move on. As I understand it, this action (blessing

it, forgiving it for being what it is and behaving as it does) is

only in part for the entity's sake -- it's also a way for you to

release and transcend your own strong emotions towards it. It

releases the line of energy between it and you.

Hope this helps. As I said, I'm still new to all this -- I only hope

that when my time comes, I remember to follow my own advice!

- David

, Brandi Jasmine

<jazztalk wrote:

>

> At 09:05 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:

> >How do I know that it isn't some kind of weird manifestation

coming from

> >my brain do to haywire chemistry.

>

> It doesn't matter whether it is " real " or a figment of your

imagination. The advice we could give for dealing with it would

probably be the same regardless, and while we're all pretty

intuitive, none of us knows the answer to that with absolute

certainty. If I were in your shoes and had any serious doubts about

that, I'd talk to my doctor about it. I'm not a big fan of psycho-

pharmacology, but I would not want to take the chance of overlooking

something medical. I don't think you'd be asking here though if you

seriously thought that was the case.

>

> >What was wrong with knowing all that I could about it?

>

> Knowing what it is, what it looks like, is part of the trap these

things use on us to keep us engaged. As long as you are fighting it,

you remain engaged. That's what it wants. You said it yourself, you

feel a lot of frustration and contempt and hatred for this thing, and

that's their food.

>

> >And the they told me some mumbo-jumbo crap that I was

> >empowering it by hating it. I told them that I could not love it

or for

> >that matter foregive it!

>

> I can't speak for anyone but me - but I strongly suspect that you

won't hear any different here. Let me put it this way ... is what you

are doing now working?

>

> >I have told it to leave in so many ways I can't count.

>

> Clearly it's not working ... so why do you think more of the same

will change anything? Why are you so reluctant to let go of your

anger? What will you lose if you do so?

>

> Brandi

>

May 30, 2008

Hi Della,

Sorry to hear about your predicament. My wife and I went through

similar problems as well. But that was then and this is now. What

changed? My attention. Just as David says, focus on the places in

yourself that are happy and growing and helping others.

I agree with Brandi as well, it doesn't matter if this is something

inside you or an external entity. Trying to figure that out won't be

productive, and the remedy is the same in either case. Follow the

love in your heart and you will find the way out.

Luck,

Peter

, " djgottlieb "

<dgottlieb wrote:

>

> Della,

>

> I'm pretty new here and still have much to learn, but here are some

> thoughts that may be helpful...

>

> When mosquitoes attack you to drink your blood, do you respond with

> anger and hatred? It's just their nature - they're doing what

> mosquitoes do.

>

> Some entities feed on strong negative emotions. Others feed on any

> attention and will do what they can to get us to focus on them, to

> interact with them. When you focus on them you give them energy.

>

> I think you need to disengage yourself from this entity. If love and

> forgiveness are difficult right now, try dispassion and

> indifference. Or humor. Turn your attention to brighter things. If

> you can turn your attention to things that fill you with happiness,

> joy, light and laughter, this entity may lose interest. You no

> longer taste good. Increase your vibration to keep the lower astral

> bugs away.

>

> Ask the Kundalini to help - she can take you to bright happy states

> of attention. If love and forgiveness are hard for you to summon up

> on your own, ask the Goddess for help with that too. Practice the

> safeties. Do physical exercise. Be careful what you focus on. Ask

> the Shakti to turn your attention towards dimensions of light. If

> you can't feel love for the entity, just try to fill yourself with

> love, as an antidote to other, more negative emotions. Try to fall

> in love with the Shakti, or whatever form of the Divine appeals to

> you.

>

> So bless it and move on. As I understand it, this action (blessing

> it, forgiving it for being what it is and behaving as it does) is

> only in part for the entity's sake -- it's also a way for you to

> release and transcend your own strong emotions towards it. It

> releases the line of energy between it and you.

>

> Hope this helps. As I said, I'm still new to all this -- I only hope

> that when my time comes, I remember to follow my own advice!

>

> - David

>

> , Brandi Jasmine

> <jazztalk@> wrote:

> >

> > At 09:05 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:

> > >How do I know that it isn't some kind of weird manifestation

> coming from

> > >my brain do to haywire chemistry.

> >

> > It doesn't matter whether it is " real " or a figment of your

> imagination. The advice we could give for dealing with it would

> probably be the same regardless, and while we're all pretty

> intuitive, none of us knows the answer to that with absolute

> certainty. If I were in your shoes and had any serious doubts about

> that, I'd talk to my doctor about it. I'm not a big fan of psycho-

> pharmacology, but I would not want to take the chance of overlooking

> something medical. I don't think you'd be asking here though if you

> seriously thought that was the case.

> >

> > >What was wrong with knowing all that I could about it?

> >

> > Knowing what it is, what it looks like, is part of the trap these

> things use on us to keep us engaged. As long as you are fighting it,

> you remain engaged. That's what it wants. You said it yourself, you

> feel a lot of frustration and contempt and hatred for this thing, and

> that's their food.

> >

> > >And the they told me some mumbo-jumbo crap that I was

> > >empowering it by hating it. I told them that I could not love it

> or for

> > >that matter foregive it!

> >

> > I can't speak for anyone but me - but I strongly suspect that you

> won't hear any different here. Let me put it this way ... is what you

> are doing now working?

> >

> > >I have told it to leave in so many ways I can't count.

> >

> > Clearly it's not working ... so why do you think more of the same

> will change anything? Why are you so reluctant to let go of your

> anger? What will you lose if you do so?

> >

> > Brandi

> >

May 30, 2008

wow David.. good suggestions.. I love them all.

djgottlieb <dgottlieb wrote: Della,