Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I have read the posts with sadness. And as much as I feel there need not be any justification on chrism or my part I will revamp costs to you. However before I present the " facts " I wish to make a statement about chrism. I have spent most of the last 6 months with chrism. A good seven weeks of that time we spent on the road together. I feel that I know him better than most and can attest to the fact that he is the real article. As for faults- his greatest fault in my eyes is that he is " too generous " If he has a dime he gives it away. He is not interested in material things other than to promote the K program. He has been directed/guided to offer his services to any and all K interested or activated folks. He is not allowed nor is he interested in any personal gain for this service. I know how the man lives- I would give chrism anything out of respect and love for his person and the service he offers. He is my guide/mentor - I am his student. So how did the Ojai seminar come to be- Steve F and I both felt that it was time for chrism to offer a meeting mainly for his community members and for any others that were interested. Other seminars were offered as a weekend meeting but both Steve and I and many of the group members thought a gathering over night would be fun and more conducive to the K experience. Steve and I had to insist on the charge of $595.00- chrism felt it was too much. Steve found the site- chrism and I agreed on it - I handled all the finances, made the plans, helped in any way I could. I put up the majority of the money out of my pocket, chrism and Steve paid for some of it. We had to pay for 16 places at the site (3990) although we only had 9 paid registrations. The cancellations came too late to cancel the event so we were in the hole from the beginning. You see Carol, - when running a seminar one does not charge the presenter or the ones who pay the bills. Other costs included: ads nearly 3000.00/ materials including binders/paper/ink/bindis/gift for participants- (est. $250 /hotel( 4 nights for chrism and I-520)/gas for two cars driving from santa Rosa to the site (??)- over 8 1/2 hours one way/food for the seminar(600.00) and food for us the 4 days at the hotel(??) So figure out how much money we made- I have not seen any profits from this gathering. Neither chrism, Steve nor I made any money. And yes it would have been nice to have enough donations so anyone who wanted to come could come. However- I gave all I could give and then some. And I would do it all again. For you see, Carol, I believe that what chrism offers is a true gift- he does not ask for any payment other than the seminars and for your info we are looking into offering items to help defray the costs of the program. I am a firm believer that one needs to pay for services rendered. chrism does not think this way - he is a true giver in the Kundalini service mode. I, on the other hand ,see this program as a business - as all no profits need to be. Some things will be given freely and others there will be a charge. I have committed my self to chrism and his K program. I will continue to support his efforts in any manner I can - freely, no strings attached, no expectations from chrism, no expectations from this group- I admire and wish to emulate my guide/teacher. He is not perfect by any means nor am I. Yet, I know in my heart that he is a genuine, giving, loving man. He would do anything for anyone. He is a true example of a K enlightened being. And I personally do not have any problems with anyone sending chrism money or gifts. I give to strangers and family and friends all the time even when I have no business giving. As the K becomes stronger in me I find that I am letting go of " things " detaching myself from " things " . There is no real meaning in money or things except to help others. chrism lives this daily- and as corny as it sounds I want to be like him- I want to live without fear. I want to give all I can to help others. Many in this group think and do the same. it is the sign of a true K awakened being. chrism promotes his program from a platform of " love and service " He lives this platform. I wish to thank you for allowing me to present this info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Amen sister! Beautifully put. Sarita , " " . wrote: > > I have read the posts with sadness. And as much as I feel there need > not be any justification on chrism or my part I will revamp costs to > you. > However before I present the " facts " I wish to make a statement > about chrism. I have spent most of the last 6 months with chrism. A > good seven weeks of that time we spent on the road together. I feel > that I know him better than most and can attest to the fact that he > is the real article. As for faults- his greatest fault in my eyes is > that he is " too generous " If he has a dime he gives it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 We are in your corner and I agree with you wholeheartedly and very beautifully expressed. Right on Sarita! Angelina , " Sarita " <sarita1969 wrote: > > Amen sister! Beautifully put. > > Sarita > > , " " > <@> wrote: > > > > I have read the posts with sadness. And as much as I feel there need > > not be any justification on chrism or my part I will revamp costs to > > you. > > However before I present the " facts " I wish to make a statement > > about chrism. I have spent most of the last 6 months with chrism. A > > good seven weeks of that time we spent on the road together. I feel > > that I know him better than most and can attest to the fact that he > > is the real article. As for faults- his greatest fault in my eyes is > > that he is " too generous " If he has a dime he gives it away. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I wish to lodge a complaint. I'd love for to come to Texas so he can bilk me out of $600 for a weekend of good friends and Kundalini. I haven't had the chance to throw away good money on this group, and I really have to say I'm disappointed. He has spent hours on the phone with my wife and I counseling us on entities, again gratis, and I never once felt like he was pressuring me to join a cult or even believe any thing in particular. How am I going to feel like an underdog without a new religion of the moment in my life? It's just not fair. The roses smell pretty fine here in big d. Peter , " gypsyeyes_101 " <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: > > We are in your corner and I agree with you wholeheartedly and > very beautifully expressed. Right on Sarita! > > Angelina > > , " Sarita " > <sarita1969@> wrote: > > > > Amen sister! Beautifully put. > > > > Sarita > > > > , " " > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > I have read the posts with sadness. And as much as I feel there need > > > not be any justification on chrism or my part I will revamp costs to > > > you. > > > However before I present the " facts " I wish to make a statement > > > about chrism. I have spent most of the last 6 months with chrism. A > > > good seven weeks of that time we spent on the road together. I feel > > > that I know him better than most and can attest to the fact that he > > > is the real article. As for faults- his greatest fault in my eyes is > > > that he is " too generous " If he has a dime he gives it away. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Hi Peter, I think Texas would be a great place to have another seminar. I would not mind one bit being bilked out of another $600. Hehe! The $1,500 I spent going to the Ojai seminar was worth every penny and some. If I had to I would sell possessions for the chance to attend again. LOL! Every moment I spent with was a treasure, no amount of money could buy. Linda Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " peter.nichols " <peter wrote: > > I wish to lodge a complaint. I'd love for to come to Texas so > he can bilk me out of $600 for a weekend of good friends and > Kundalini. I haven't had the chance to throw away good money on this > group, and I really have to say I'm disappointed. He has spent hours > on the phone with my wife and I counseling us on entities, again > gratis, and I never once felt like he was pressuring me to join a cult > or even believe any thing in particular. How am I going to feel like > an underdog without a new religion of the moment in my life? It's > just not fair. > > The roses smell pretty fine here in big d. > > Peter > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > We are in your corner and I agree with you wholeheartedly and > > very beautifully expressed. Right on Sarita! > > > > Angelina > > > > , " Sarita " > > <sarita1969@> wrote: > > > > > > Amen sister! Beautifully put. > > > > > > Sarita > > > > > > , " " > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have read the posts with sadness. And as much as I feel there > need > > > > not be any justification on chrism or my part I will revamp > costs to > > > > you. > > > > However before I present the " facts " I wish to make a statement > > > > about chrism. I have spent most of the last 6 months with > chrism. A > > > > good seven weeks of that time we spent on the road together. I feel > > > > that I know him better than most and can attest to the fact that he > > > > is the real article. As for faults- his greatest fault in my > eyes is > > > > that he is " too generous " If he has a dime he gives it away. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I also treasured all the moments I spent with all the other members that attented the seminar. They are all very special people. It was all of us gather together sharing with one another that made it so super great. Love, Linda , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Hi Peter, I think Texas would be a great place to have another > seminar. I would not mind one bit being bilked out of another $600. > Hehe! The $1,500 I spent going to the Ojai seminar was worth every > penny and some. If I had to I would sell possessions for the chance > to attend again. LOL! Every moment I spent with was a > treasure, no amount of money could buy. > > Linda > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " peter.nichols@ " <peter@> wrote: > > > > I wish to lodge a complaint. I'd love for to come to Texas > so > > he can bilk me out of $600 for a weekend of good friends and > > Kundalini. I haven't had the chance to throw away good money on > this > > group, and I really have to say I'm disappointed. He has spent > hours > > on the phone with my wife and I counseling us on entities, again > > gratis, and I never once felt like he was pressuring me to join a > cult > > or even believe any thing in particular. How am I going to feel > like > > an underdog without a new religion of the moment in my life? It's > > just not fair. > > > > The roses smell pretty fine here in big d. > > > > Peter > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > We are in your corner and I agree with you wholeheartedly > and > > > very beautifully expressed. Right on Sarita! > > > > > > Angelina > > > > > > , " Sarita " > > > <sarita1969@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Amen sister! Beautifully put. > > > > > > > > Sarita > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " " > > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have read the posts with sadness. And as much as I feel > there > > need > > > > > not be any justification on chrism or my part I will revamp > > costs to > > > > > you. > > > > > However before I present the " facts " I wish to make a > statement > > > > > about chrism. I have spent most of the last 6 months with > > chrism. A > > > > > good seven weeks of that time we spent on the road together. > I feel > > > > > that I know him better than most and can attest to the fact > that he > > > > > is the real article. As for faults- his greatest fault in my > > eyes is > > > > > that he is " too generous " If he has a dime he gives it away. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I haven't had the chance yet, but I think it would be a fine thing indeed! It would be wonderful to meet you and any other K friends here in the lone star state! Are you listening Chrism?!?! Peter , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Hi Peter, I think Texas would be a great place to have another > seminar. I would not mind one bit being bilked out of another $600. > Hehe! The $1,500 I spent going to the Ojai seminar was worth every > penny and some. If I had to I would sell possessions for the chance > to attend again. LOL! Every moment I spent with was a > treasure, no amount of money could buy. > > Linda > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " peter.nichols@ " <peter@> wrote: > > > > I wish to lodge a complaint. I'd love for to come to Texas > so > > he can bilk me out of $600 for a weekend of good friends and > > Kundalini. I haven't had the chance to throw away good money on > this > > group, and I really have to say I'm disappointed. He has spent > hours > > on the phone with my wife and I counseling us on entities, again > > gratis, and I never once felt like he was pressuring me to join a > cult > > or even believe any thing in particular. How am I going to feel > like > > an underdog without a new religion of the moment in my life? It's > > just not fair. > > > > The roses smell pretty fine here in big d. > > > > Peter > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- > 1 , " gypsyeyes_101 " > > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > > We are in your corner and I agree with you wholeheartedly > and > > > very beautifully expressed. Right on Sarita! > > > > > > Angelina > > > > > > , " Sarita " > > > <sarita1969@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Amen sister! Beautifully put. > > > > > > > > Sarita > > > > > > > > , " " > > > > <@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have read the posts with sadness. And as much as I feel > there > > need > > > > > not be any justification on chrism or my part I will revamp > > costs to > > > > > you. > > > > > However before I present the " facts " I wish to make a > statement > > > > > about chrism. I have spent most of the last 6 months with > > chrism. A > > > > > good seven weeks of that time we spent on the road together. > I feel > > > > > that I know him better than most and can attest to the fact > that he > > > > > is the real article. As for faults- his greatest fault in my > > eyes is > > > > > that he is " too generous " If he has a dime he gives it away. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 I couldn't of said it better myself. You sound like a bitter person Carol, that makes me sad. I can only pray you find peace and love. We're grown-ups here and we can judge for ourselves. Chrism is a friend who I trust and who will always be considered my friend. Lisa ---- Sarita <sarita1969 wrote: > Amen sister! Beautifully put. > > Sarita > > , " " > . wrote: > > > > I have read the posts with sadness. And as much as I feel there need > > not be any justification on chrism or my part I will revamp costs to > > you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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