Loneliness and Aloneness

[Guest guest]

Hello and All, sorry I'm late,

 

I thought I would add my little bit to this from what I've

experienced, witnessed, and read. Weird, cause I was thinking about

talking about this.

 

When we are all born into the world we are born into a family where

we become dependant on others and learn how to fit in with society.

This is how our egos are born, where we get our names, where we are

told who we are, where we must take on many personas to fit in.

 

The way we have been brought up has gotten us to need others to

survive or feel comforted with because its others/society who make

our personalities, its others who make who we are to a great extent.

To not be involved with a crowd creates fear and that fear gets you

to fall into loneliness..

 

It's the outside world who has created our personalities and its our

insides now that are awakening us to the truth to ourselves. When you

awaken, all of your personas start disappearing. This makes it very

difficult to fit in or gives a feeling of " not belonging " . This outer

personality of yours starts dying and you fall into a state of being

alone.

 

But... It is our true nature to be alone. When I say alone I dont

mean being lonely, there is a difference. I mean alone in a sense of

not being attached to the personality given by the crowd. Being in

this alone state involves dropping this personality given by the

crowd. You are moving beyond your ego and its very painful sometimes.

It's a death of your old constructed self and a resurrection of your

true pure being. To take this path of aloneness is to take the path

to enlightenment.

 

Aloneness is very different from loneliness. To be lonely is to have

teh desire to be with someone, to have attachments, and to not be

comforted in being with just yourself. Loneliness is depressing,

Aloneness is bliss, peace, being. Finding your aloneness is to free

yourself from yourself, mroe or less.

 

I would have a story of mine to go with this but its very long. I

would really love to share that when I got the time.

 

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> When the Kundalini is activated and begins to make changes in the

> expressive bodies. The changes that occur to the psychology and ego

> will have the effect of initiating a feeling of " not belonging " .

> Anywhere. Not in your city, state, country, society or this world.

> You may have a definite feeling of displacement but with no place

or

> destination in mind.

>

> This can make a person feel confused lonely. As if they are alone

in

> the world with no one or place to relate too.

>

> What is occurring is that as the Kundalini begins to assert its

> agenda the psychological priorities will begin to shift. These

> priorities will begin to shift away from desires or material

> ownership or acquisition of power among other priorities. This can

> give the feeling of being emptied of the old ways of processing

> emotions and life and a different way of pursuing or appreciating

> gratifications. It will be slow or fast depending upon the degree

of

> surrender.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Aloneness is very different from loneliness. To be lonely is to have

> teh desire to be with someone, to have attachments, and to not be

> comforted in being with just yourself. Loneliness is depressing,

> Aloneness is bliss, peace, being. Finding your aloneness is to free

> yourself from yourself, mroe or less.

>

> I would have a story of mine to go with this but its very long. I

> would really love to share that when I got the time.

>

 

 

When you have the time please do, you echo my own thoughts.

 

Thank you

 

Don

[Guest guest]

Drea, what about the ones that were born before the net and TV and the

coagulating place of the mind, `The Mall'? I was raised in an

environment that would be totally alien to what you are describing.

Neighbors were measured in miles away and the closest kid to play with

was about 7 miles away. The act of being alone wasn't that

appreciable. Mostly a contribution to this condition could be that we

didn't have STUFF back then. Oh, this is novel but our phone number

was 2 long rings and one short ring.

 

You have a good point on the crowds; I see it as an attempt to

reconnect with our spiritual clan, and your observations would seem

very right brain to me. That would be to say a female concept, which

would be a very well said observation from that point of view. Also I

would love to read your story so if you ever have time email it to me,

I think I could understand a lot from it. Please don't think I'm

trying to be bigoted by throwing out male/female dispute. We do think

and perceive differently and only understanding that there is a

difference can a bridge be made.

 

A lot of this thread is reminiscent of what is called Indigo Traits.

What Linda wrote about:

" @@@ When the Kundalini is activated and begins to make changes in the

expressive bodies. The changes that occur to the psychology and ego

will have the effect of initiating a feeling of " not belonging " .

Anywhere. Not in your city, state, country, society or this world.

You may have a definite feeling of displacement but with no place or

destination in mind@@@ " .

 

As an Indigo this is the feeling I was born with. Seems that only

lately I have realized a mechanism that could be a contributing factor

to these feelings. Could it be a past life that lies in our close future?

 

Freedom of Mind |/

Liberte De Penser | _

/| /_)

Ben_Hangen _/ | /

(_/ |/

/

/|

[Guest guest]

ahhh... Ben,the part in quotes is what wrote, not me.

 

@@@ When the Kundalini is activated and begins to make changes in the

expressive bodies. The changes that occur to the psychology and ego

will have the effect of initiating a feeling of " not belonging " .

Anywhere. Not in your city, state, country, society or this world.

You may have a definite feeling of displacement but with no place or

destination in mind. @@@

 

I do identify with your feelings of being born with the sense of not

belonging anywhere. My experience in 2005 and 2006 was that feeling

amplified.

 

Linda

 

 

, " ben_hangen "

<ben_hangen wrote:

>

> Drea, what about the ones that were born before the net and TV and

the

> coagulating place of the mind, `The Mall'? I was raised in an

> environment that would be totally alien to what you are describing.

> Neighbors were measured in miles away and the closest kid to play

with

> was about 7 miles away. The act of being alone wasn't that

> appreciable. Mostly a contribution to this condition could be that

we

> didn't have STUFF back then. Oh, this is novel but our phone number

> was 2 long rings and one short ring.

>

> You have a good point on the crowds; I see it as an attempt to

> reconnect with our spiritual clan, and your observations would seem

> very right brain to me. That would be to say a female concept, which

> would be a very well said observation from that point of view. Also

I

> would love to read your story so if you ever have time email it to

me,

> I think I could understand a lot from it. Please don't think I'm

> trying to be bigoted by throwing out male/female dispute. We do

think

> and perceive differently and only understanding that there is a

> difference can a bridge be made.

>

> A lot of this thread is reminiscent of what is called Indigo Traits.

> What Linda wrote about:

> " @@@ When the Kundalini is activated and begins to make changes in

the

> expressive bodies. The changes that occur to the psychology and ego

> will have the effect of initiating a feeling of " not belonging " .

> Anywhere. Not in your city, state, country, society or this world.

> You may have a definite feeling of displacement but with no place or

> destination in mind@@@ " .

>

> As an Indigo this is the feeling I was born with. Seems that only

> lately I have realized a mechanism that could be a contributing

factor

> to these feelings. Could it be a past life that lies in our close

future?

>

> Freedom of Mind |/

> Liberte De Penser | _

> /| /_)

> Ben_Hangen _/ | /

> (_/ |/

> /

> /|

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Drea, that definitely resonates with me. I have been feeling

like that for at least the last 5 years

Ana

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Drea "

<lvledusa wrote:

>

> Hello and All, sorry I'm late,

>

> I thought I would add my little bit to this from what I've

> experienced, witnessed, and read. Weird, cause I was thinking

about

> talking about this.

>

> When we are all born into the world we are born into a family

where

> we become dependant on others and learn how to fit in with

society.

> This is how our egos are born, where we get our names, where we

are

> told who we are, where we must take on many personas to fit in.

>

> The way we have been brought up has gotten us to need others to

> survive or feel comforted with because its others/society who make

> our personalities, its others who make who we are to a great

extent.

> To not be involved with a crowd creates fear and that fear gets

you

> to fall into loneliness..

>

> It's the outside world who has created our personalities and its

our

> insides now that are awakening us to the truth to ourselves. When

you

> awaken, all of your personas start disappearing. This makes it

very

> difficult to fit in or gives a feeling of " not belonging " . This

outer

> personality of yours starts dying and you fall into a state of

being

> alone.

>

> But... It is our true nature to be alone. When I say alone I dont

> mean being lonely, there is a difference. I mean alone in a sense

of

> not being attached to the personality given by the crowd. Being in

> this alone state involves dropping this personality given by the

> crowd. You are moving beyond your ego and its very painful

sometimes.

> It's a death of your old constructed self and a resurrection of

your

> true pure being. To take this path of aloneness is to take the

path

> to enlightenment.

>

> Aloneness is very different from loneliness. To be lonely is to

have

> teh desire to be with someone, to have attachments, and to not be

> comforted in being with just yourself. Loneliness is depressing,

> Aloneness is bliss, peace, being. Finding your aloneness is to

free

> yourself from yourself, mroe or less.

>

> I would have a story of mine to go with this but its very long. I

> would really love to share that when I got the time.

>

>

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > When the Kundalini is activated and begins to make changes in

the

> > expressive bodies. The changes that occur to the psychology and

ego

> > will have the effect of initiating a feeling of " not belonging " .

> > Anywhere. Not in your city, state, country, society or this

world.

> > You may have a definite feeling of displacement but with no

place

> or

> > destination in mind.

> >

> > This can make a person feel confused lonely. As if they are

alone

> in

> > the world with no one or place to relate too.

> >

> > What is occurring is that as the Kundalini begins to assert its

> > agenda the psychological priorities will begin to shift. These

> > priorities will begin to shift away from desires or material

> > ownership or acquisition of power among other priorities. This

can

> > give the feeling of being emptied of the old ways of processing

> > emotions and life and a different way of pursuing or

appreciating

> > gratifications. It will be slow or fast depending upon the

degree

> of

> > surrender.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Even if you aren't really around people, TV or any of that you still

apply. You were born into having parents right? So you still take on

the characteristics, personalities, and even beliefs to an extent of

your parents. Actually psychologically, if you are only aware of the

personalities of just your parents as you are growing up then it

makes sense that it would be more difficult to fit into a crowd

because you've grown up being aware of just limited personalities.

But even being raised out in the middle of no where you are still

brought up being told what's right and what's wrong, you're still

given rules, beliefs, etc. You still record all sorts of information

going on from the outside of those around you, from books, from life

styles; you may not have come across a big crowd, but you've still

had this ego created for yourself. You still have built in illusions

of what you think you are, of what love is, of what freedom is, of

what success is. You have still to an extent created these illusions

out of comfort for letting you believe that you belong.

 

When you say you've lived far out, did you not go to school at all?

Even if you did only get home schooling the conditioning to your ego

is still taking place. When I say being alone I mean being alone from

all sorts of conditionings and personas made by parents, society,

educational systems, authorities, friends, belief systems. These are

everywhere and I think everyone applies unless you live in a native

tribe that understands the natural ways of living of the earth.

 

Pretty well everyone is so scared and frightened in that we all

really don't know who we are so people have created these rules of

what's right and wrong, they've creates beliefs, and life styles that

go against nature. They create this huge cultural ego for everyone to

be at ease with the question: " who am I? " . We just find comfort in

having belief systems, in having a specific order with things. By

this I mean that its society telling us just who we are and how our

lives should be lived.

 

To belong with this cultural ego may seem like the safe place, like

its the real place where people are making real connections with

others, where people are having true communication with others, wehre

people think they know what love is, but thats jsut illusion and

fantasy which I bet all of us kundalini people are beginning to

notice. You know, the way I see the world is from a movie I watched a

long time ago called Pleasantville.

 

In the movie, Pleasantville was a TV show that these two teenagers in

an average society would watch, which was black and white. In

Pleasantville everyone in the town was very proper, pleasant,

traditional, non sexual, ordered, etc which all took place in around

the 1950s. The two teenagers ended up some how being a part of the

show, they too became black and white like in the show. Now

apparently people in the show had no clue what sex was, but one of

the teenagers ended up having sex with someone in the show. Suddenly

the person who had sex was estatic and told all of his friends and

mroe people started having sex. It was sex that was turning sexual

people from black and white to colour. This of course turned

pleasantville into chaos. A lot of anger to what was going on to the

changes happening and attempted order took place to stop it. People

who were becoming colourful would feel ashamed and didn't like that

they did not belong with the old black and white way. The movie

continues.

 

But this is how our society is. Our society is black and white and

full of sexual repression. Us kundaini active people are turning

colourful in the world. Our sexual energy is running through us

causing our illusionary black and white selves to transcend into

colour. We are all living in this illusionary black and white world

whether you're living in the city or not to an extent. So we are

feeling lonely because we are opening to the colours of our

uniqueness, of our purity, of who we naturally are as human beings.

If you surrender to the change to let yourself be in full colour than

the easier it will be have those around you to be in full colour too.

 

Sorry, I don't talk much but when I do I tend to talk a lot and drift

around the topic I'm getting into. I jsut love talking about it.

 

I do not wish to share my views on indigo children on here. The last

time I shared my views with someone who deeply made the indigo

movement a part of her, she got very mad at my common sense truth of

the matter and blocked me. I'm really not a big fan of some new age.

 

I hope that makes sense.

 

muhc love,

drea

 

 

, " ben_hangen "

<ben_hangen wrote:

>

> Drea, what about the ones that were born before the net and TV and

the

> coagulating place of the mind, `The Mall'? I was raised in an

> environment that would be totally alien to what you are describing.

> Neighbors were measured in miles away and the closest kid to play

with

> was about 7 miles away. The act of being alone wasn't that

> appreciable. Mostly a contribution to this condition could be that

we

> didn't have STUFF back then. Oh, this is novel but our phone number

> was 2 long rings and one short ring.

>