Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 At 10:23 AM 6/25/2008, you wrote: >I just HAVE to jump in here! You cannot operate from a base of fear and >expect to lead us to not be afraid! EVERYTHING happens for a reason, >always for our highest good. For the highest good of us all. If YOU >don't have faith that all will be okay, how can you expect to teach it >to us? You must HAVE NO FEAR! I understand what you are saying and I wanted to challenge you to have a look at what beliefs are behind your languaging. This looked like as good an opportunity as any to discuss fear. I didn't see what he wrote as fearful, and I don't mind if has some fear and expresses that honestly. Fear isn't a problem in and of itself, any more than anger or resentment are. It's what we do with these emotions that counts.Even an enlightened being can feel fear. If we compound that with self-recrimination it only makes it worse. I know that wasn't your intention - but if that were aimed at me, I'd be tempted to beat on myself a bit (Not that will <g> but I think he's ahead of me there). We do all want to get past our fear, but we won't do that if the goal is to have no fear at all. Maybe that was realistic for Christ/Buddha ... but that's a pretty lofty goal for the rest of us. I don't want my leaders and teachers to deny their fears. When that happens we get a lot of macho strutting like we see too much of in politics. I am inspired by leaders who admit their fears and go forward anyway. My friend Ross often speaks in his classes about his own fears and reactions. We both share a reaction about rejection. I was so relieved to hear him talk about that because I admire him greatly, I know he admits to being human, and I didn't feel I had to be perfect around him after that. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I loved your post Brandi, and AMEN to that. --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Brandi Jasmine <jazztalk wrote: Brandi Jasmine <jazztalk Fear Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:43 PM At 10:23 AM 6/25/2008, you wrote: >I just HAVE to jump in here! You cannot operate from a base of fear and >expect to lead us to not be afraid! EVERYTHING happens for a reason, >always for our highest good. For the highest good of us all. If YOU >don't have faith that all will be okay, how can you expect to teach it >to us? You must HAVE NO FEAR! I understand what you are saying and I wanted to challenge you to have a look at what beliefs are behind your languaging. This looked like as good an opportunity as any to discuss fear. I didn't see what he wrote as fearful, and I don't mind if has some fear and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Personally,I have no fear but there are certain boundaries and consequences we must consider first.Chrism said that if we complain about the group being in an adult category it will be deleted.He was just stating something that might have happened before.Fortunately,now we do not have to think about that scenario happening.I read the email from so nothing to worry about.I don't like to talk too much and want to be alone these days in case anyone wonders why I'm not so active in the group anymore.I think K does that to me. love,Nicole , <ari.reza wrote: > > and ... Don Quixote he was fearless > peace, folks, all will come good you'll see... > paula... > > > > > Brandi Jasmine <jazztalk > > 2008/06/25 Wed PM 07:43:28 BST > > > > Fear > > > > At 10:23 AM 6/25/2008, you wrote: > > >I just HAVE to jump in here! You cannot operate from a base of fear and > > >expect to lead us to not be afraid! EVERYTHING happens for a reason, > > >always for our highest good. For the highest good of us all. If YOU > > >don't have faith that all will be okay, how can you expect to teach it > > >to us? You must HAVE NO FEAR! > > > > I understand what you are saying and I wanted to challenge you to have a look at what beliefs are behind your languaging. > > > > This looked like as good an opportunity as any to discuss fear. I didn't see what he wrote as fearful, and I don't mind if has some fear and expresses that honestly. Fear isn't a problem in and of itself, any more than anger or resentment are. It's what we do with these emotions that counts.Even an enlightened being can feel fear. If we compound that with self-recrimination it only makes it worse. I know that wasn't your intention - but if that were aimed at me, I'd be tempted to beat on myself a bit (Not that will <g> but I think he's ahead of me there). We do all want to get past our fear, but we won't do that if the goal is to have no fear at all. Maybe that was realistic for Christ/Buddha ... but that's a pretty lofty goal for the rest of us. > > > > I don't want my leaders and teachers to deny their fears. When that happens we get a lot of macho strutting like we see too much of in politics. I am inspired by leaders who admit their fears and go forward anyway. My friend Ross often speaks in his classes about his own fears and reactions. We both share a reaction about rejection. I was so relieved to hear him talk about that because I admire him greatly, I know he admits to being human, and I didn't feel I had to be perfect around him after that. > > > > Brandi > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 A BIG HUG, nicole Its wonderful hearing from you and how you are doing anytime you want to share with us. We love you. Love, dhyana , " ntaroiu " <lsirca wrote: > > Personally,I have no fear but there are certain boundaries and > consequences we must consider first.Chrism said that if we complain > about the group being in an adult category it will be deleted.He was > just stating something that might have happened > before.Fortunately,now we do not have to think about that scenario > happening.I read the email from so nothing to worry about.I > don't like to talk too much and want to be alone these days in case > anyone wonders why I'm not so active in the group anymore.I think K > does that to me. > > love,Nicole > > , <ari.reza@> > wrote: > > > > and ... Don Quixote he was fearless > > peace, folks, all will come good you'll see... > > paula... > > > > > > > > > Brandi Jasmine <jazztalk@> > > > 2008/06/25 Wed PM 07:43:28 BST > > > > > > Fear > > > > > > At 10:23 AM 6/25/2008, you wrote: > > > >I just HAVE to jump in here! You cannot operate from a base of > fear and > > > >expect to lead us to not be afraid! EVERYTHING happens for a > reason, > > > >always for our highest good. For the highest good of us all. If > YOU > > > >don't have faith that all will be okay, how can you expect to > teach it > > > >to us? You must HAVE NO FEAR! > > > > > > I understand what you are saying and I wanted to challenge you to > have a look at what beliefs are behind your languaging. > > > > > > This looked like as good an opportunity as any to discuss fear. I > didn't see what he wrote as fearful, and I don't mind if has > some fear and expresses that honestly. Fear isn't a problem in and of > itself, any more than anger or resentment are. It's what we do with > these emotions that counts.Even an enlightened being can feel fear. > If we compound that with self-recrimination it only makes it worse. I > know that wasn't your intention - but if that were aimed at me, I'd > be tempted to beat on myself a bit (Not that will <g> but I > think he's ahead of me there). We do all want to get past our fear, > but we won't do that if the goal is to have no fear at all. Maybe > that was realistic for Christ/Buddha ... but that's a pretty lofty > goal for the rest of us. > > > > > > I don't want my leaders and teachers to deny their fears. When > that happens we get a lot of macho strutting like we see too much of > in politics. I am inspired by leaders who admit their fears and go > forward anyway. My friend Ross often speaks in his classes about his > own fears and reactions. We both share a reaction about rejection. I > was so relieved to hear him talk about that because I admire him > greatly, I know he admits to being human, and I didn't feel I had to > be perfect around him after that. > > > > > > Brandi > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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