Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 I so agree with Kelly on this. I saw it years ago & then went thru a period of what I call a personal hell from which I've begun to awaken anew. I see things more in depth than I ever did before and now my ex is beginning to see it too (yes, I still talk to him). I get the same thing you're getting ..... people looking at me, acting around me like I'm the one who has completely lost my marbles and anything I say/do is so far above these folks heads. I get the same thing too of " Why don't you .... ? " " How about doing it ....? " " You know .... if you did it this way .... " I just look at them like " What the .... ? And just how do you rationalize that? What about .... (naming off what apparently they didn't see)? Did you stop to think about any of it? " as they look at me like I've done more than insulted their intelligence (or lack their of) and was utterly & completely disrespectful to them. After a point, I just said to myself " Fine! If you don't want to wake up from your self induced dream la la land, that's your issue. I tried to reach you. You walked away from it like I was the one who was way off. At least I tried .... " and went on my merry way. I will still strive to grow & change & become a better person. If someone is helped along the way or sees what I do & changes their life even w/o me knowing, excellent! If I'm considered whack-a-doodle by the rest? Hey! Fine! I can live with it. Not the first time and doubtful it'll be the last one. Those who remain in my life thru it all are the ones who I will treasure and the rest get my sympathy for living in a not so blissful ignorance (like there ever really was a blissful ignorance LOL) Andrea > ______________________ > 1c. Re: > Posted by: " Kelly Anderson " longlivlife longlivlife > Thu Jul 3, 2008 8:52 am ((PDT)) > > drea- you are so very unalone here. I feel the same way you do often, and > many others and we all feel so very alone in it. because we are swimming > in > a sea of apathy as seemingly everything falls around us. > The bottom line is this society, this system, is all an experiment in > power, > and the results speak loud and clear. this is not working. millions of > years > of evolution and we have found ourselves outside all natural systems. > The unease is vibrating through the collective and sensitive people like > ourselves cannot help but feel that energy. I feel like I see the > culmination of this insane existence everywhere I look and am continuously > shaking my head in shame and such disappointment.. thinking 'oh > humanity... > really?!?' > At twenty I began to realize that the lies of society permeated every > corner > of my psyche, even into my dreams. I went through what felt like a very > violent awakening and detachment process. I stood on my soap box for > years. > so very few people understood and so many more would take it as arrogance, > obsession, or fanaticism on my part that I learned to keep my mouth shut. > Even at mine, one of the most radical colleges in the nation I was always > saying too much. > So I took five months off and lived in a redwood tree, a tree sit. alone > with nature. Of the many lessons I learned one of the greatest came first > from the birds song, which systematically reverberated throughout the > entire > natural world. > The difference between humans and all other nature: We are no longer > living > in harmony with the natural systems. those creatures that are, live lives > of > celebration. Just look at the way the branches of a tree grow. they are > dancing! The birds song is an ecstatic song! They are in harmony and > celebrate that even as humans bring down habitat all around them. > We are traumatized from living such an unnatural existence. Our climate > control, light switches, and yes, computer screens are not at all what we > have evolved to be. this is trauma. our society was founded on massive > trauma, westerns violent expansion in every sense of the word. > This has helped me to have a deep compassion for every person, no matter > how > destructive or selfish. because all of these people who 'are asleep' are > traumatized, and cannot see it yet. but they are waking up. each day as I > am > disappointed in humanity over and over again, little lights come to me, > from > the most unexpected places. Lights of humans getting uncomfortable enough > to > transform. > > Im not sure about your chakras, and would love for someone to elaborate on > that. > But you are not alone, and i am not either. thank you for the space. > > peace and love to all. > Kellie > > > On 7/3/08, Drea <lvledusa wrote: >> >> I've been undergoing some serious changes with how I see everything >> and its liek theres no way for me to ignore it. I really wish I had >> a strong 3rd and 5th chakra to try to make a difference to this. I'm >> just so sick of living in such fantasy on a daily basis, it's like, >> humanity is devolving and everyone is so god damn asleep. Just >> anything that I look at it just looks so much more different than >> before. Just the ways in how we live, how we are brought up, the >> belief systems, the traditions, just all sorts of things. I used to >> see a lot of the sickness befoer, like a lot, but now its just even >> more, to even littel things. You're going to think I'm just >> awakening to the basics, but its so much more. Something really has >> to be done about it so that I can sleep better at night lol. >> >> I've tried talking about making some good positive changes in a >> group to help stop crime and help humanity evolve and I was just so >> shocked to get numerous responses from this group in just how evil I >> was, they even attempted to create stories to try to get me banned >> lol. And I just started crying, not because I've been unaccepted, >> but because it just almost seems so hopeless that humanity is going >> to wake up from their ignorance, stop false judgments/projections >> and just listen, try to understand so that we can finally evolve. It >> was like that huge ego created by the government and society has >> already won their control over humanity. You seriously have to see >> what was said there. My heart just sank, I didn't say anythign >> really offensive either lol, it was like they replaced the words I >> had there with something else. >> >> Just on a daily now, I cant get these thigns out of my head. How can >> I go out to party, smoke a joint, or drink? How can I sit to even >> watch a full TV show? How can I hide the fact of whats realyl gonig >> on? How could I go day by day surrounded by such fakeness? I'm so >> sick of the constant questions of why I don't do this and that >> because everyone else is doing it without knowing how to come up >> with a good truthful response that will not be very akward or >> upsetting. I'm really depressed because I am so very alone at the >> moment. I feel like the only way I could truly be accepted is to >> spread what it is I see and have it understood. I jsut can't go to >> the old way to gte acceptance. It really is no fair that my 3rd and >> 5th chakras are the weakest at the moment, its liek an unbalnace to >> both of these chakras are just a trap. It would be really nice to >> have a powerful voice back to get my points across clearly and >> understood to some people. >> >> Does anyone have any real suggestions for the 3rd and 5th chakras? >> >> -drea >> >> >> > > Messages in this topic (5) > ______________________ > 1d. Re: > Posted by: " Elektra Fire " elektra.fire elektra.fire > Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:10 am ((PDT)) > > My opinion is that the chakras relating to the male destorted ego are > base, solar, throat. > The way you are perceiving the world is symbolic of the inbalance of your > chakras. To change your inner balance will change the way you view ther > world around you. > It's all good though, shows you are getting deeper in to some issues :-)) > > The tantric principles are to change yourself until the mirror of life > reflecs only perfection. > > You can do it Drea, you are a beautiful soul, do not allow the illusion to > overwhelm you girl. > > Spend time chakra breathing and asking your kundalini to guide you through > clearing these issues and then write down your dreams (if you dont > already). > Surround yourself with positive images of the divine masculine and write a > list of all the good things that are in this world, think about instances > when the Will of God works for the benefit of all mankind. > Perhaps also look at relationship to the men in your life, such as Father, > Brother, Teacher and see what needs balancing. > > Love and light > elektra x x x > > > ________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available > now at http://uk.docs./ymail/new.html > > > Messages in this topic (5) > ______________________ > 1e. Re: > Posted by: " alayafire " ari.reza alayafire > Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:39 am ((PDT)) > > hi Drea.. > this is human alchemy... > look at how a gemstone or a diamond was formed > by the earth ... > the stones and the earth and everything is conciousness.. > alive and striving... > diamonds were alchemically created through extreme pressure, > this is the pressure humans are going through now, because without > this pressure , no one would care to change... > > perhaps you have been reading about the illuminati, or chemtrails or > hearing about so many people with cancer > or tsunamis, all of these thoughts used to really torture me , > especially when i learned , they caused autism on purpose, i became > a heavy campaigner, flew all over the world to get advice from > scientists , eris was a massive black whirlwind in me , nothing > stopped me, i was in newspapers and on the radio.. > > the illuminati ,causing the dollar to crash, the housing to > crash , spreading disease such as aids and cancer in vaccines, > causing war and funding both sides against each other so that no > matter what happens it seems they win, > you look at their name illuminati, the illuminated ? > the enlightened? are they the evil we think ? or are they pressing > the gas pedal , trying to get us there faster? > who knows either way same effect... > > here in the uk the govt. keeps testing in the seas and dolphins and > whales keep being washed ashore, last year a baby one came right up > the thames river , smack in the middle of london, to show us all to > wake up... > > tsunamis and earthquakes, the goddess pele, meditate/trance her , > she will answer...get her take direct... > > to get anywhere we have to give up what we know as fact.. > chrisms advice to me , it was a good ... > paula..... > > > > Messages in this topic (5) > ______________________ > ______________________ > 2a. still happening but more gentle today... > Posted by: " alayafire " ari.reza alayafire > Thu Jul 3, 2008 7:58 am ((PDT)) > > we are still able to feel all of the parts we got yesterday, and a > more gentle energy movement today ,has got a huge feeling of peace > feels like being wrapped in a warm breeze. > can feel all of the energy running through , myself and everything.. > in our bodies we are experiencing it as an ankh! > > don't know if all of these morphings are due to k. but purposely > didnt learn about it , so that i would come to it afresh, just got > attracted here to the list,(alex grey painting) > > chrism you were correct all of our parts we got match isis exactly... > does everyone get isis,? or is it that caius and i are very > interested in immortality,.... > > caius feels that the horn are to manifest? he really wants to know > how to use his wings! > he has been with his higher self , just before we began morphing... > > the arm shields seem vortex energy in from the sun...(wonder if we > can become breatherian with them! > > feel the 3rd eye, and it reacts to being touched! > > now im sure you guys are going to call the white coats on us! > > for anyone out there that is doubting kundalini , don't .. > even with wings and all you can still function, > it is if you try to resist, that causes difficulty.. > it's so kind it even chose our kids school holidays to start > morphing us, thats a mother for you organising everything with > love... > paula Messages in this topic (3) > ______________________ > 2b. Re: still happening but more gentle today... > Posted by: " Elektra Fire " elektra.fire elektra.fire > Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:13 am ((PDT)) > > Sounds wonderful and you are dealing with it all with confidence, you go > girl! > Love and joy e x x x > > > ________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available > now at http://uk.docs./ymail/new.html > > > Messages in this topic (3) > ______________________ > 2c. Re: still happening but more gentle today... > Posted by: " alayafire " ari.reza alayafire > Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:48 am ((PDT)) > > thanks e > > > > , Elektra Fire > <elektra.fire wrote: >> >> Sounds wonderful and you are dealing with it all with confidence, > you go girl! >> Love and joy e x x x >> >> >> ________ >> Not happy with your email address?. >> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses > available now at http://uk.docs./ymail/new.html >> > > > > > Messages in this topic (3) > ______________________ > ______________________ > 3a. Friends > Posted by: " zinniaprint " zinniaprint zinniaprint > Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:01 am ((PDT)) > > Hi Iwould really like your comments regarding 2 situations that I've > been thinking about. I'm temporarily living with my daughters and their > father, my ex husbnd. They regularly attend church services and though > I've gone w/them many times it's not the right fit for me. He's on > vacation and my daughters will want a ride there. My oldest daughter > is on the worship team w/the pastor's son whom she is dating.The > pastor's wife also a pastor, puts my daughter in her pocket week in and > week out. My daughter is at their house a lot. We get gifts she is > often asked to help at church activities... she's at the pastors home a > lot for recreational time too.Most of the time I've been resentful. > My " family " is not nice to me when it comes to me wanting a different > church environment for myself and my daughters. Should the Safeties > time be the time when I pray for quick help or wisdom which I think > takes longer. #1 is I don't want to live like this past Jan 09and #2 is > I want to be careful with my 15 yr old. Her father is domineeringThis > set up is due to financial constraints. > > > > Messages in this topic (2) > ______________________ > 3b. Re: Friends > Posted by: " Elektra Fire " elektra.fire elektra.fire > Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:18 am ((PDT)) > > I think that if you want the right to live as you wish I would start by > letting go and accepting the way your daughter and ex husband live. > Forgiveness and surrender bring miraculous results. > > Love and joy > elektra x x x > > > ________ > Not happy with your email address?. > Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available > now at http://uk.docs./ymail/new.html > > > Messages in this topic (2) > ______________________ > ______________________ > 4a. Re: Expectations Linda > Posted by: " Linda " crazycats711 danceswithcats999 > Thu Jul 3, 2008 9:23 am ((PDT)) > > Thanks Elektra, that is a nice clear explanations, more alone my line > of understanding. It is just a matter of being able to know if it is > God's will or your will that is being done. That can be hard and > tricky at times, but if it's God's will, things usually fall into > place and there will be no struggle on your part for it to happen. It > is not always a cut and dry thing though. > > My answer to chrism's questions, would be I don't really know what to > expect from kundalini. All I know is that it came to me and the > desire for it has been kindled. I just hope and pray that it is God's > will for me. If is is not God's will then I am a back slidder in > trouble and I have been left to my own vain imaginations. That is > a very scarey thought. > > Linda > > , Elektra Fire > <elektra.fire wrote: >> >> >> >> As a christian, Jesus's own >> > words where that we >> > should ask, seek, and knock! He went on to say that those >> > who do not >> > ask, do not recieve. LOL! >> >> Yes, quite right , one can ask and receive, I think the > expectations thing is more a case of not trying to control what God > brings you through ego, but more of an allowing so that our own ego > ideas do not get in the way of Gods perfection. Our plans are usually > not the same as spirits, spirit gets it much better :-)) >> Ask, and then stand back and GET OUT THE WAY! IN COMING! hee hee >> >> Love e x x x >> >> >> ________ >> Not happy with your email address?. >> Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses > available now at http://uk.docs./ymail/new.html >> > > > > > Messages in this topic (21) > ______________________ > ______________________ > 5a. Re: Levitation > Posted by: " Denny " dennynorton denny072893 > Thu Jul 3, 2008 10:07 am ((PDT)) > > > Once upon a time...i was about 9 or 10 years old at the time. i was > attempting to levitate outside our front yard. i remember closing my > eyes and thinking i am as light as a feather and i float upwards. > after about 15 mintues of really hard concentrating and remaining in > focus i began to levitate. i levitated about 3 feet off the ground i > was told afterwards. if i turned my attention back to the ground i > would slowly go back so i kept thinking and focusing upwards. my twin > brother saw me do this a it totally freaked him out so he ran and > knocked me down causing me to lose focus. after that i received a > scolding from my parents to not ever do this again. in secret...i did > try again but to this day have not been able to. i do not know what > the block is. i just KNOW i can do it but i am not doing something > right i guess. i try many times to go back to that very moment and > SEE what i did to make it work for me. but to no avail...NOT > happening for me. as a child growing up i had spontaneous abilities > and those caused me to be disciplined from my parents. having these > abilities caused me to be labled weirdo, different, odd, strange, too > many lables to write here. i believe i knew even before that time > that there IS a greater force or power greater than us and i knew it > was right and OK for us to tap into. i felt and still feel it is our > birth right to hold and to have. > > Denny > > > > Messages in this topic (5) > > > > > > ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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