Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hi, I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening and a rising to the 7th chakra resulting in a permanent transformation of consciousness 4 years ago. Ive used ceremonial magick to deal with the " housecleaning " aspect of the awakening for 3 years now. This includeds rituals of the 4 elements, 7 planets and 12 zodiac. For those of you familiar with ceremonial magick, Ive also used the infamous Enochian magick for about a year and have gotten good results. My state is much more balanced than at the beginning but it still seems like im still in my own personal " hell " and i seem unable to get out of it. Every night i lie in bed listening to the kundalni from the inside, awaiting a further transformation so that i can leave the demon realm for good, but with no avail. Ive lost all desire for anything and my sympathy and compassion for other human beings is very limited. All i see is selfishness and egocentric behavior everywhere I go and frankly im getting tired of this " lens " of perceiving the reality around me. Are there any of you who have done ceremonial magick to deal with K-awakening? What advice do you have for me? Any words of hope and faith will be apprechiated from anyone. Godbless, Neven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hi Neven, I'm only a little familiar with ceremonial magick, so get out the salt box. Here's my take on it. Shakti and the K energy are conscious, they are aware of what goes on in your life and you can ask questions and get answers just like sitting with your best friend. I think you might do better to drop the ceremonial magic, at least for now, and really develop that K awareness so you get a sense of that dialog happening. You're disconnected from your compassion and not feeling the unity of all things, and Shakti can restore that to you. All the best, Peter , " nevenpaar " <nevenpaar wrote: > > Hi, > > I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening and a rising to the 7th > chakra resulting in a permanent transformation of consciousness 4 > years ago. Ive used ceremonial magick to deal with > the " housecleaning " aspect of the awakening for 3 years now. This > includeds rituals of the 4 elements, 7 planets and 12 zodiac. For > those of you familiar with ceremonial magick, Ive also used the > infamous Enochian magick for about a year and have gotten good > results. My state is much more balanced than at the beginning but it > still seems like im still in my own personal " hell " and i seem unable > to get out of it. Every night i lie in bed listening to the kundalni > from the inside, awaiting a further transformation so that i can > leave the demon realm for good, but with no avail. Ive lost all > desire for anything and my sympathy and compassion for other human > beings is very limited. All i see is selfishness and egocentric > behavior everywhere I go and frankly im getting tired of this " lens " > of perceiving the reality around me. Are there any of you who have > done ceremonial magick to deal with K-awakening? What advice do you > have for me? Any words of hope and faith will be apprechiated from > anyone. Godbless, > > Neven > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hi Neven! Did you just join us? I don't see any other posts from you...Welcome! We always direct everyone to the Safeties which will help you to balance within the Kundalini. We also have an awesome website with all kinds of information that may help you. http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com I have a feeling the Safeties will really help you. It can get kind of sickening when we only see the ego realm. There is a much deeper level beyond which I know is just waiting for you to open to, and then you will find your joy and bliss. imho Love to you and a warm welcome hug, dhyana , " nevenpaar " <nevenpaar wrote: > >Ive lost all > desire for anything and my sympathy and compassion for other human > beings is very limited. All i see is selfishness and egocentric > behavior everywhere I go and frankly im getting tired of this " lens " > of perceiving the reality around me. What advice do you > have for me? Any words of hope and faith will be apprechiated from > anyone. Godbless, > > Neven > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Perhaps it is time to try a different avenue Neven. If this particular course of activity isn't giving you the results of leaving the hell realms there are other options. ceremonial magick vs kundalini This is an interesting way you phrase the issue, almost as if it is a competition. Ceremonial magick is not a way that I would suggest one work with the Kundalini. There is no comparison of the two. Ceremonial magick or many magical programs may be seen as the longer way up the mountain that is the Kundalini. It is a path strewn with entities that are waiting for the misstep of the individual. When you deal with demonic structures you will be constantly surrounded by them. When one works with Hell, Hell is what one gets and Hell doesn't share power. No matter what the ego tells a person. This has been my experience. But of course I honor your choice Neven if this is the way you wish to go. - , " nevenpaar " <nevenpaar wrote: > > Hi, I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Hello Neven, I, too, am not of " this world. " I have sought many avenues to find my place, able to live amongst the cruelty, harming, and non-loving environment that we find ourselves in dealing with humanity. I had to go deep inside myself to seek what I was hungry for---------and that was my connection to the Divine, to God, Guru, whatever you choose to name Him/Her if you need to define. There are many paths to the Divine, and many people/paths that can mislead and direct. I cannot choose your path, but only tell you of my experience. When I chose to quit looking outside myself, whether it be astrology, magic, a person, ad infinitum, everything became clear. I came into the world alone, and I will leave the world alone. And the answers were inside me. When I chose to meditate, practice yoga, help others, and seek only a closer connection to my creator, life became simple.....not easy but simple. There is a way out..........Read and reread the words of this group. You have found your way to a collection of amazing people who only have your well-being as their concern. I send you healing, love, and blessings. And we are here for you 24/7. (one of us is always awake) Julie --- On Sat, 7/5/08, nevenpaar <nevenpaar wrote: nevenpaar <nevenpaar ceremonial magick vs kundalini Saturday, July 5, 2008, 8:09 AM Hi, I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening and a rising to the 7th chakra resulting in a permanent transformation of consciousness 4 years ago. Ive used ceremonial magick to deal with the " housecleaning " aspect of the awakening for 3 years now. This includeds rituals of the 4 elements, 7 planets and 12 zodiac. For those of you familiar with ceremonial magick, Ive also used the infamous Enochian magick for about a year and have gotten good results. My state is much more balanced than at the beginning but it still seems like im still in my own personal " hell " and i seem unable to get out of it. Every night i lie in bed listening to the kundalni from the inside, awaiting a further transformation so that i can leave the demon realm for good, but with no avail. Ive lost all desire for anything and my sympathy and compassion for other human beings is very limited. All i see is selfishness and egocentric behavior everywhere I go and frankly im getting tired of this " lens " of perceiving the reality around me. Are there any of you who have done ceremonial magick to deal with K-awakening? What advice do you have for me? Any words of hope and faith will be apprechiated from anyone. Godbless, Neven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 " I came into the world alone, and I will leave the world alone. And the answers were inside me. " Exactly Julie, well said !! Peace Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 A belated " thank you " Don......... Namaste --- On Sat, 7/5/08, merlin <merlin wrote: merlin <merlin Re: ceremonial magick vs kundalini Saturday, July 5, 2008, 6:25 PM " I came into the world alone, and I will leave the world alone. And the answers were inside me. " Exactly Julie, well said !! Peace Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Would there be something I could tell you I would. I have a deep understanding of what you are trying to ask of people and what you have asked is almost a reverse of what I learned. " Are there any of you who have done ceremonial magick to deal with K-awakening? " I haven't used any ceremonial magic in a long time, but my situation was that I used ceremonial magic to bring on the kundalini. As a clarification point one can consider the yoga of the fire serpent, the Tibetans, and the safeties as a magical ritual and part of ceremonial magic, these and other practices I had in the 60's that brought on the Kundalini. The reason I have mentioned this is to establish a consensus of objectivity. Anyway the point of this that ceremonial magick is in the eye of the beholder. Chrisms remarks were to the point as there is not a competition but from what I inferred from your post is that you are trying to control kundalini to stave the effects that are considered undesirable. " All i see is selfishness and egocentric behavior everywhere I go and frankly im getting tired of this " lens " of perceiving the reality around me. " May I ask how long it has taken to craft this lens of perception? When Kundalini rises, the perception of reality is greatly enhanced. So as chrism had pointed out: >It is a path strewn with entities that are waiting for the misstep >of the individual. When you deal with demonic >structures you will be >constantly surrounded by them. When one works with Hell, Hell is >what one gets and Hell doesn't share power. No matter what the ego >tells a person. This has been my experience. The Kundalini can amplify all things no matter what the path you have been on and if you an escape from this world of demons deny then the power over you. , " nevenpaar " <nevenpaar wrote: > > Hi, > > I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening and a rising to the 7th > chakra resulting in a permanent transformation of consciousness 4 > years ago. Ive used ceremonial magick to deal with > the " housecleaning " aspect of the awakening for 3 years now. This > includeds rituals of the 4 elements, 7 planets and 12 zodiac. For > those of you familiar with ceremonial magick, Ive also used the > infamous Enochian magick for about a year and have gotten good > results. My state is much more balanced than at the beginning but it > still seems like im still in my own personal " hell " and i seem unable > to get out of it. Every night i lie in bed listening to the kundalni > from the inside, awaiting a further transformation so that i can > leave the demon realm for good, but with no avail. Ive lost all > desire for anything and my sympathy and compassion for other human > beings is very limited. All i see is selfishness and egocentric > behavior everywhere I go and frankly im getting tired of this " lens " > of perceiving the reality around me. Are there any of you who have > done ceremonial magick to deal with K-awakening? What advice do you > have for me? Any words of hope and faith will be apprechiated from > anyone. Godbless, > > Neven > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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