Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Well stated Ben. I suppose one could see the practice of the safeties as a ceremonial activity and as a magical practice. Its inception was totally inspired by the Kundalini. And the safeties will increase a flow if practiced daily as written. Also a stabilization will also occur and even from that an increase in a flow can occur as balance promotes the expression. Neven seems to have found solace in the magical applications and yet as you say " controlling the Kundalini " will not bring about anything but the illusion of control. Surrender is the way to go with it and yet inside the control structures that are often set up inside some of these magical systems such as Enochian magic surrender can be deadly. Here is a very brief understanding from Wikipedia: " Enochian magic is a system of ceremonial magic based on the evocation and commanding of various spirits. It is based on the 16th century writings of Dr. John Dee and Edward Kelley, who claimed that their information was delivered to them directly by various angels. Dee's journals contained the Enochian script, and the table of correspondences that goes with it. It claims to embrace secrets contained within the apocryphal Book of Enoch. " John Dee made lots of claims yet no one can claim beyond a doubt that angels or anything other than lower entities claiming to be angels were available. Some of these magical systems employ certain anagrams and rites that supposedly force the fallen Angels or demons to do the sill of God as a punishment through the will of the person practicing these protocols. Big mistake. As Abremalin and the writers of some of the darker Chaldean works found out. Not suggesting you do not wish to continue on this path Neven but if you do...... Once again I would not use this for the Kundalini. Yet if this was all that was available to you Neven at the time I can totally understand how and why you would reach for this as there are a paucity of answers and information regarding the Kundalini available for people to learn from from a safe and sane perspective. So perhaps this opportunity has arisen for you Neven. I will suggest Neven that you discontinue any interactions that you can safely do and seal any expressions or activities that can be the source of your Kundalini being " controlled " . There may be some feeding going on and you may be given hurtful activities to partake of. Do your best to reverse any morally degrading instruction. Let me know if this is anything close to your feelings about this Neven - , " ben_hangen " <ben_hangen wrote: > > Would there be something I could tell you I would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 I apprechiate all of your responses. They are very helpful and I can see that all of you are filled with light and love. You inspire me to be patient and kind with others as well. For far too long ive felt all alone but as i sit here writing this I sense a connection to you all. Your responses to my post only strengthen my aspirations for those higher values that manifest the Glory of God. I look forward to sharing and learning from you all, Neven , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Well stated Ben. I suppose one could see the practice of the > safeties as a ceremonial activity and as a magical practice. Its > inception was totally inspired by the Kundalini. And the safeties > will increase a flow if practiced daily as written. Also a > stabilization will also occur and even from that an increase in a > flow can occur as balance promotes the expression. > > Neven seems to have found solace in the magical applications and yet > as you say " controlling the Kundalini " will not bring about anything > but the illusion of control. Surrender is the way to go with it and > yet inside the control structures that are often set up inside some > of these magical systems such as Enochian magic surrender can be > deadly. Here is a very brief understanding from Wikipedia: > > " Enochian magic is a system of ceremonial magic based on the > evocation and commanding of various spirits. It is based on the 16th > century writings of Dr. John Dee and Edward Kelley, who claimed that > their information was delivered to them directly by various angels. > Dee's journals contained the Enochian script, and the table of > correspondences that goes with it. It claims to embrace secrets > contained within the apocryphal Book of Enoch. " > > John Dee made lots of claims yet no one can claim beyond a doubt > that angels or anything other than lower entities claiming to be > angels were available. > > Some of these magical systems employ certain anagrams and rites that > supposedly force the fallen Angels or demons to do the sill of God > as a punishment through the will of the person practicing these > protocols. Big mistake. As Abremalin and the writers of some of the > darker Chaldean works found out. > > Not suggesting you do not wish to continue on this path Neven but if > you do...... > > Once again I would not use this for the Kundalini. > > Yet if this was all that was available to you Neven at the time I > can totally understand how and why you would reach for this as there > are a paucity of answers and information regarding the Kundalini > available for people to learn from from a safe and sane perspective. > > So perhaps this opportunity has arisen for you Neven. > > I will suggest Neven that you discontinue any interactions that you > can safely do and seal any expressions or activities that can be the > source of your Kundalini being " controlled " . There may be some > feeding going on and you may be given hurtful activities to partake > of. > > Do your best to reverse any morally degrading instruction. Let me > know if this is anything close to your feelings about this Neven - > > > > , " ben_hangen " > <ben_hangen@> wrote: > > > > Would there be something I could tell you I would. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Remember to love yourself too! Peter , " nevenpaar " <nevenpaar wrote: > > I apprechiate all of your responses. They are very helpful and I can > see that all of you are filled with light and love. You inspire me to > be patient and kind with others as well. For far too long ive felt > all alone but as i sit here writing this I sense a connection to you > all. Your responses to my post only strengthen my aspirations for > those higher values that manifest the Glory of God. I look forward to > sharing and learning from you all, > > Neven > > > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > Well stated Ben. I suppose one could see the practice of the > > safeties as a ceremonial activity and as a magical practice. Its > > inception was totally inspired by the Kundalini. And the safeties > > will increase a flow if practiced daily as written. Also a > > stabilization will also occur and even from that an increase in a > > flow can occur as balance promotes the expression. > > > > Neven seems to have found solace in the magical applications and > yet > > as you say " controlling the Kundalini " will not bring about > anything > > but the illusion of control. Surrender is the way to go with it and > > yet inside the control structures that are often set up inside some > > of these magical systems such as Enochian magic surrender can be > > deadly. Here is a very brief understanding from Wikipedia: > > > > " Enochian magic is a system of ceremonial magic based on the > > evocation and commanding of various spirits. It is based on the > 16th > > century writings of Dr. John Dee and Edward Kelley, who claimed > that > > their information was delivered to them directly by various angels. > > Dee's journals contained the Enochian script, and the table of > > correspondences that goes with it. It claims to embrace secrets > > contained within the apocryphal Book of Enoch. " > > > > John Dee made lots of claims yet no one can claim beyond a doubt > > that angels or anything other than lower entities claiming to be > > angels were available. > > > > Some of these magical systems employ certain anagrams and rites > that > > supposedly force the fallen Angels or demons to do the sill of God > > as a punishment through the will of the person practicing these > > protocols. Big mistake. As Abremalin and the writers of some of the > > darker Chaldean works found out. > > > > Not suggesting you do not wish to continue on this path Neven but > if > > you do...... > > > > Once again I would not use this for the Kundalini. > > > > Yet if this was all that was available to you Neven at the time I > > can totally understand how and why you would reach for this as > there > > are a paucity of answers and information regarding the Kundalini > > available for people to learn from from a safe and sane perspective. > > > > So perhaps this opportunity has arisen for you Neven. > > > > I will suggest Neven that you discontinue any interactions that you > > can safely do and seal any expressions or activities that can be > the > > source of your Kundalini being " controlled " . There may be some > > feeding going on and you may be given hurtful activities to partake > > of. > > > > Do your best to reverse any morally degrading instruction. Let me > > know if this is anything close to your feelings about this Neven - > > > > > > > > , " ben_hangen " > > <ben_hangen@> wrote: > > > > > > Would there be something I could tell you I would. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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