Joint pain / stagnant energy response-Lady S.

[Guest guest]

Greetings and group, I would like some advice and to get the

ideas of others on my present situation.

 

I came across this post from 2006, while reading through the

archives, and found it relevant to my present situation. A few months

after the drastic change in my life I left my marriage, children,

home, job etc. with nothing, not even a change of underwear. I had

been meditating and starting work on Reiki for some time and I was

aware of many positive changes in my body and mind. This is when I

believe my Kundalini was really activated. I started to get bodily

pains but trips to Dr's, a brain scan, and blood tests found

nothing, but the pain was relentless.

 

This was approx 15yrs ago and I have been treated with stronger and

stronger pain killers as the years went on. Finally this year I asked

my Dr if there was a way I could come off or greatly lower the dose

of drugs but I did not tell him why. I had found that whenever I was

in bad pain I would lie and give myself Reiki and then an immense

heat would travel through my body and I could just lay on my bed,

close my eyes and visualise the whirling mandalas, geometric designs,

and wonderful images of colourful flowers blooming open. While

my 'light show' is taking place my whole body feels as if I am being

heated from my bones through my flesh and out through my skin &

beyond. In fact I can visualise my skeleton as being made of a hot

metal, like hot copper rods. By concentrating I can regulate that

heat according to the depth of the pain.

 

I can do this for 20-30mins, but then I have to get up and pop a

pill. It would be lovely if I could 'hold' that state constantly. On

31st July I have my first appointment at a Pain Clinic where I will

start a treatment programme to be arranged between myself & the Dr's.

 

I would like to know whether anyone else has experienced this or

would know what was going on and how I could lessen my pain without

medication. The medication has also caused me to gain weight I can do

without! They firstly diagnosed my pain as Sickle Cell but further

tests have ruled that out. Fibromyalgia is their present diagnosis.

 

I would be very grateful of any suggestions.

 

Thank you in advance, and Blessings,

 

Lady Skydancer x

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Please everyone be aware that if the energy isnt allowed to move

then

> it will cause pain.A stagnant energy response. A burning arthritic

> kind of pain typically at the joints. This is why yoga can be so

> helpful. So those of you who are sparking, do the Hatha Yoga. Find

a

> place for it in your life. A book or a class or the web. The Yoga

will

> allow for a better infusion and unblock some of the constrictions

at a

> persons joints. -

>

[Guest guest]

Yes LS,

There are folks right now in the middle of this pain and it

can be severe. Often with Kundalini one cannot go half way. One must

really devote every waking minute to some aspect of the Kundalini.

Either clearing issues for its further infusion of the body or

learning what the agenda is for you. It is important to know what is

occurring and that it is indeed Kundalini that is occurring.

 

Osteo issues and arthritis or bursitis can give sensations of

crepetice in the joints. So one can image those out with a modern

imaging dx from the MD. Yet with the Kundalini this will not be

expressed with in the visual or measuring modalities that are

presently used in the medical practice.

 

These are stuck energies or stagnant energetic responses. As is

stated in the safeties you DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. It hurts

constantly. But there are ways to relieve these pains.

 

Most of these ways do not include a pill or an injection or a pain

killer of any type. No chemicals or plant extracts are used for this

because " it is and is not " of the body systems at the same time. And

no spells or incantations or entities are used either. This is a

personal relationship between you and your Kundalini.

 

It is Kundalini that is encountering blockage of various types

within the physical structure itself. And the Kundalini is

relentless. It will burn or dissolve the blockage away to flow

through these areas. If not given a clearance it will make a

clearance! Ouch! It can be like acid burning through the areas it is

stuck in.

 

I have had this and do not anymore so realize that there are ways

out that does not include drugs or pills or injections or pain

clinics. It does require courage and the willingness to be honest

and open and able to follow instructions to the letter. Instructions

that may not make any sense to your logical or spiritual mind. The

ego will also have problems with some of these instructions. So this

is an FYI.

 

For treatment I will ask folks to come here:

 

http://health.Kundalini-Healing/

 

There are some permissions and some tests that are also not very

open to linear understandings. Yet these must be done. So there you

have it LS. It is not forever and yet it will require effort and

trust and commitment. -

[Guest guest]

Skydancer Greetings,welcome to the group, I'm a newbie as well. I

don't know if it will be of any help but I can share the steps I've

gone through. I have yet to have a really straight answer from an Md.

I was diagnosed with the big C. as the pain seemed to creep in and

take over more and more of my life. I was up to between 10 and 16

percocettes , oxycotin, a day. <500mg I think> Finishing that off at

night with 3 or 4 or 5 very stiff burbons to be able to attempt to

sleep. We bought a new couch because many nights I would wake my wife

moaning in my sleep. We have seven cats and I swear they had a

schedule, on who's turn it was to sit and be with Dad on the couch.

 

There was some work the Mds could do with a surgical intervention. I

went for that but only went for the barest minimum, ended up done in

the doctors office. Now that seemed to actually be a turning point,

there was a feeling of pressure lifted. Not so much pain gone but

pressure.

 

I had already started what I call my " energy " work. There is a

wonderful book on chi, I'll try and dig up title and author tomorrow.

But my search started there and so did my practice.

 

Here's another disclaimer, I had just sold my business so I was

financially able to do nothing at all but concentrate on my work.

 

I let myself go, I surrendered to it. I opened myself to the energy

around me. If you don't know yet I live an idylic life, off in the

woods of maine. I opened and let it flow through me all of the energy

around me. I found swiming in it, floating on it, letting it wash all

over me, just me and the energy alone and naked, I found it cut down

the pain. I'd open my eyes and my silly rabbit would be there. It at

least made me think of something other than the pain. The more I did

that, the longer were the spaces between when I took another dose.

It's like I had found the basic fluid of life, and with my thought I

could have it shower down on me.

 

I wasn't actively trying to stop the pain meds, in fact I kind of

liked them. The thought was not really there that it was about them,

it was about healing this body. It wasn't spiritual, it was an

engineer seeking balance in a complex system. Doing what I could to at

least slow down entropy.

 

The turning point happened quite suddenly, 3 months down the line, my

wife was going into town and wanted to know if I needed my script

refilled. it was time, it was due, but the script was for 200 pills

and when we looked I had 100 left. That is when I made the connection

between the energy work and the meds.

 

2 weeks later I stopped taking any of them. Yes I did spent most of

the day, in energy collection. My body made some quite drastic

changes. The hair on my arms and legs grew another 3 inches. Freaks

some people out when they look at my arms. It is not a testosterone

thing, because the surgical intervention actually decreased that .

Montauk Chia talks about the hair being tiny antennas seeking out more

chi.

 

Gawd I'm long winded aren't I, tying this up. I pulled an energy in

from the outside, that either healed or allowed me to disregard the

pain. I think it is disregard because not very often, but sometimes I

have waves of pain, like someone is trying to peel my skin off. I do

my float, my open, I am the most empty place in the universe, and the

universe rushes energy in to fill me.

 

Caveat, the side effects of stopping the meds were that I could not

sleep. Not at all. I went 10 days sitting on the couch with cats never

sleeping. Back to the Md and a simple generic sleeping pill for week

got me going again.

 

I've had lower back pain since I can remember, 10 days after joining

this group the pain is gone, that is just so kewl!! When it went it

was a slap to the head, because I could not remember what it felt like

not to have it.

 

All this energy work I did, cued up Shakti, < Hi elektera> passed

right by her, and she sensed the flow. There is a bunch more that has

happened. It was what led me here.

 

Peace Skydancer and if I can help with the pain I am here and well

versed. I understand pain.

 

Don

[Guest guest]

Welcome Skydancer to the group,

I am also surviving cancer, and would not resort to surgical intervention again. Sometimes I have pain, whether it is related to any disease or just "growing up" I don't know. I can choose to feel sorry for myself and stay in bed, and it stengthens, or I can get up and move, and take a yoga class, or take my grandbabies to the park, swim, or just sit by the water, watching the dogs frolic at Zilker Park. If I choose the latter, I forget about me, and magically, the pain goes away. I find the cleaner I can keep myself, whether in thought, word, deed, or diet, the less I suffer any pain, whether it be physical or mental. And I don't even keep an aspirin in my house. Just me...........

 

I can't come close to Don's words; but am interested in learning about his book on CHI. Again, welcome to our group............Thank you for your kind offers of teaching and therapy....

 

May you find answers to all you seek............

 

hugs and blessings,

Julie--- On Tue, 7/22/08, merlin6949 <merlin wrote:

merlin6949 <merlin Re: Joint pain / stagnant energy response-Lady S. Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 12:27 AM

 

 

Skydancer Greetings,welcome to the group, I'm a newbie as well. Idon't know if it will be of any help but I can share the steps I'vegone through. I have yet to have a really straight answer from an Md.I was diagnosed with the big C. as the pain seemed to creep in andtake over more and more of my life. I was up to between 10 and 16percocettes , oxycotin, a day. <500mg I think> Finishing that off atnight with 3 or 4 or 5 very stiff burbons to be able to attempt tosleep. We bought a new couch because many nights I would wake my wifemoaning in my sleep. We have seven cats and I swear they had aschedule, on who's turn it was to sit and be with Dad on the couch.There was some work the Mds could do with a surgical intervention. Iwent for that but only went for the barest minimum, ended up done inthe doctors office. Now that seemed to actually be a turning point,there was a feeling of pressure

lifted. Not so much pain gone butpressure.I had already started what I call my "energy" work. There is awonderful book on chi, I'll try and dig up title and author tomorrow.But my search started there and so did my practice.Here's another disclaimer, I had just sold my business so I wasfinancially able to do nothing at all but concentrate on my work. I let myself go, I surrendered to it. I opened myself to the energyaround me. If you don't know yet I live an idylic life, off in thewoods of maine. I opened and let it flow through me all of the energyaround me. I found swiming in it, floating on it, letting it wash allover me, just me and the energy alone and naked, I found it cut downthe pain. I'd open my eyes and my silly rabbit would be there. It atleast made me think of something other than the pain. The more I didthat, the longer were the spaces between when I took another

dose.It's like I had found the basic fluid of life, and with my thought Icould have it shower down on me.I wasn't actively trying to stop the pain meds, in fact I kind ofliked them. The thought was not really there that it was about them,it was about healing this body. It wasn't spiritual, it was anengineer seeking balance in a complex system. Doing what I could to atleast slow down entropy.The turning point happened quite suddenly, 3 months down the line, mywife was going into town and wanted to know if I needed my scriptrefilled. it was time, it was due, but the script was for 200 pillsand when we looked I had 100 left. That is when I made the connectionbetween the energy work and the meds.2 weeks later I stopped taking any of them. Yes I did spent most ofthe day, in energy collection. My body made some quite drasticchanges. The hair on my arms and legs grew another 3 inches.

Freakssome people out when they look at my arms. It is not a testosteronething, because the surgical intervention actually decreased that .Montauk Chia talks about the hair being tiny antennas seeking out morechi.Gawd I'm long winded aren't I, tying this up. I pulled an energy infrom the outside, that either healed or allowed me to disregard thepain. I think it is disregard because not very often, but sometimes Ihave waves of pain, like someone is trying to peel my skin off. I domy float, my open, I am the most empty place in the universe, and theuniverse rushes energy in to fill me.Caveat, the side effects of stopping the meds were that I could notsleep. Not at all. I went 10 days sitting on the couch with cats neversleeping. Back to the Md and a simple generic sleeping pill for weekgot me going again.I've had lower back pain since I can remember, 10 days after joiningthis

group the pain is gone, that is just so kewl!! When it went itwas a slap to the head, because I could not remember what it felt likenot to have it.All this energy work I did, cued up Shakti, < Hi elektera> passedright by her, and she sensed the flow. There is a bunch more that hashappened. It was what led me here.Peace Skydancer and if I can help with the pain I am here and wellversed. I understand pain.Don

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this is appropriate or not but many people now have

Vitamin D deficiency,myself included and the bad thing is that they

don't even know it.The symptoms can range from fatigue,muscle cramps

and decreased muscle strength,depression,weight gain and not being

able to lose weight,joint pain,headaches etc.

 

love,nicole

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Yes LS,

> There are folks right now in the middle of this pain and it

> can be severe. Often with Kundalini one cannot go half way. One

must

> really devote every waking minute to some aspect of the Kundalini.

> Either clearing issues for its further infusion of the body or

> learning what the agenda is for you. It is important to know what

is

> occurring and that it is indeed Kundalini that is occurring.

>

> Osteo issues and arthritis or bursitis can give sensations of

> crepetice in the joints. So one can image those out with a modern

> imaging dx from the MD. Yet with the Kundalini this will not be

> expressed with in the visual or measuring modalities that are

> presently used in the medical practice.

>

> These are stuck energies or stagnant energetic responses. As is

> stated in the safeties you DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. It hurts

> constantly. But there are ways to relieve these pains.

>

> Most of these ways do not include a pill or an injection or a pain

> killer of any type. No chemicals or plant extracts are used for

this

> because " it is and is not " of the body systems at the same time.

And

> no spells or incantations or entities are used either. This is a

> personal relationship between you and your Kundalini.

>

> It is Kundalini that is encountering blockage of various types

> within the physical structure itself. And the Kundalini is

> relentless. It will burn or dissolve the blockage away to flow

> through these areas. If not given a clearance it will make a

> clearance! Ouch! It can be like acid burning through the areas it

is

> stuck in.

>

> I have had this and do not anymore so realize that there are ways

> out that does not include drugs or pills or injections or pain

> clinics. It does require courage and the willingness to be honest

> and open and able to follow instructions to the letter.

Instructions

> that may not make any sense to your logical or spiritual mind. The

> ego will also have problems with some of these instructions. So

this

> is an FYI.

>

> For treatment I will ask folks to come here:

>

> http://health.Kundalini-Healing/

>

> There are some permissions and some tests that are also not very

> open to linear understandings. Yet these must be done. So there you

> have it LS. It is not forever and yet it will require effort and

> trust and commitment. -

>

[Guest guest]

yes we rust from the rain, rain , rain, here in scotland too!

paula...

 

>

> " ntaroiu " <lsirca

> 2008/07/22 Tue PM 03:25:57 BST

>

> Re: Joint pain / stagnant energy

response-Lady S.

>

> I don't know if this is appropriate or not but many people now have

> Vitamin D deficiency,myself included and the bad thing is that they

> don't even know it.The symptoms can range from fatigue,muscle cramps

> and decreased muscle strength,depression,weight gain and not being

> able to lose weight,joint pain,headaches etc.

>

> love,nicole

>

>

> , " chrism "

> <> wrote:

> >

> > Yes LS,

> > There are folks right now in the middle of this pain and it

> > can be severe. Often with Kundalini one cannot go half way. One

> must

> > really devote every waking minute to some aspect of the Kundalini.

> > Either clearing issues for its further infusion of the body or

> > learning what the agenda is for you. It is important to know what

> is

> > occurring and that it is indeed Kundalini that is occurring.

> >

> > Osteo issues and arthritis or bursitis can give sensations of

> > crepetice in the joints. So one can image those out with a modern

> > imaging dx from the MD. Yet with the Kundalini this will not be

> > expressed with in the visual or measuring modalities that are

> > presently used in the medical practice.

> >

> > These are stuck energies or stagnant energetic responses. As is

> > stated in the safeties you DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. It hurts

> > constantly. But there are ways to relieve these pains.

> >

> > Most of these ways do not include a pill or an injection or a pain

> > killer of any type. No chemicals or plant extracts are used for

> this

> > because " it is and is not " of the body systems at the same time.

> And

> > no spells or incantations or entities are used either. This is a

> > personal relationship between you and your Kundalini.

> >

> > It is Kundalini that is encountering blockage of various types

> > within the physical structure itself. And the Kundalini is

> > relentless. It will burn or dissolve the blockage away to flow

> > through these areas. If not given a clearance it will make a

> > clearance! Ouch! It can be like acid burning through the areas it

> is

> > stuck in.

> >

> > I have had this and do not anymore so realize that there are ways

> > out that does not include drugs or pills or injections or pain

> > clinics. It does require courage and the willingness to be honest

> > and open and able to follow instructions to the letter.

> Instructions

> > that may not make any sense to your logical or spiritual mind. The

> > ego will also have problems with some of these instructions. So

> this

> > is an FYI.

> >

> > For treatment I will ask folks to come here:

> >

> > http://health.Kundalini-Healing/

> >

> > There are some permissions and some tests that are also not very

> > open to linear understandings. Yet these must be done. So there you

> > have it LS. It is not forever and yet it will require effort and

> > trust and commitment. -

> >

>

>

>

>

 

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Chrism,

 

Thank you for replying so fully. I have joined the site and been

accepted. I will have a look round and see what goes on.

 

I will keep you informed of the pain regeime they put me on and how

it is affecting my Kundalini growth. Off list if you prefer?

 

Blessings LS x

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Yes LS,

> There are folks right now in the middle of this pain and it

> can be severe. Often with Kundalini one cannot go half way. One

must

> really devote every waking minute to some aspect of the Kundalini.

> Either clearing issues for its further infusion of the body or

> learning what the agenda is for you. It is important to know what

is

> occurring and that it is indeed Kundalini that is occurring.

>

> Osteo issues and arthritis or bursitis can give sensations of

> crepetice in the joints. So one can image those out with a modern

> imaging dx from the MD. Yet with the Kundalini this will not be

> expressed with in the visual or measuring modalities that are

> presently used in the medical practice.

>

> These are stuck energies or stagnant energetic responses. As is

> stated in the safeties you DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. It hurts

> constantly. But there are ways to relieve these pains.

>

> Most of these ways do not include a pill or an injection or a pain

> killer of any type. No chemicals or plant extracts are used for

this

> because " it is and is not " of the body systems at the same time.

And

> no spells or incantations or entities are used either. This is a

> personal relationship between you and your Kundalini.

>

> It is Kundalini that is encountering blockage of various types

> within the physical structure itself. And the Kundalini is

> relentless. It will burn or dissolve the blockage away to flow

> through these areas. If not given a clearance it will make a

> clearance! Ouch! It can be like acid burning through the areas it

is

> stuck in.

>

> I have had this and do not anymore so realize that there are ways

> out that does not include drugs or pills or injections or pain

> clinics. It does require courage and the willingness to be honest

> and open and able to follow instructions to the letter.

Instructions

> that may not make any sense to your logical or spiritual mind. The

> ego will also have problems with some of these instructions. So

this

> is an FYI.

>

> For treatment I will ask folks to come here:

>

> http://health.Kundalini-Healing/

>

> There are some permissions and some tests that are also not very

> open to linear understandings. Yet these must be done. So there you

> have it LS. It is not forever and yet it will require effort and

> trust and commitment. -

>

[Guest guest]

Offlist or on, it would more depend upon your comfort levels LS. Lets

see what happens because if you havent noticed you are already being

given to. The aggregate Kundalini Shakti that has collected here in

this group is expressed as an egregore of positive love based

interactions with those who come here.

 

Kundalini Shakti has very few boundaries and cyberspace isnt one of

them. You are being given to as you read and interact within this

group. So lets see what begins to happen with your pain! - blessings

LS - chrism

 

, " Skydancer "

<ionaskydancer wrote:

Thank you Chrism,

> Thank you for replying so fully.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Merlin6949,

 

I'm sorry to hear about your brush with 'C'. I cannot imagine how

that must feel emotionally along with the pain it causes.

 

Yes, pain does creep up on you and like you I take Oxycontin. I was

concerned about taking it but nothing else touched the pain. Luckily

(for me) my dose is much lower than yours. I am presently counselling

a woman with chronic pain and the more I hear, the more common it

seems to be.

 

> I was diagnosed with the big C. as the pain seemed to creep in and

> take over more and more of my life. I was up to between 10 and 16

> percocettes , oxycotin, a day. <500mg I think> Finishing that off at

> night with 3 or 4 or 5 very stiff burbons to be able to attempt to

> sleep. We bought a new couch because many nights I would wake my

wife

> moaning in my sleep. We have seven cats and I swear they had a

> schedule, on who's turn it was to sit and be with Dad on the couch.

 

I have also made close friends with my couch, and as a co-incidence

my husband will be getting me a kitten on my birthday so I'll have

company.

>

> There was some work the Mds could do with a surgical intervention. I

> went for that but only went for the barest minimum, ended up done in

> the doctors office. Now that seemed to actually be a turning point,

> there was a feeling of pressure lifted. Not so much pain gone but

> pressure.

>

> I had already started what I call my " energy " work. There is a

> wonderful book on chi, I'll try and dig up title and author

tomorrow.

> But my search started there and so did my practice.

 

It would be great if you could give me the title. Thank you.

 

>

> Here's another disclaimer, I had just sold my business so I was

> financially able to do nothing at all but concentrate on my work.

>

> I let myself go, I surrendered to it. I opened myself to the energy

> around me. If you don't know yet I live an idylic life, off in the

> woods of maine. I opened and let it flow through me all of the

energy

> around me. I found swiming in it, floating on it, letting it wash

all

> over me, just me and the energy alone and naked, I found it cut down

> the pain.

 

It sounds like bliss where you live. Be careful you don't have a

coach load of visitors turn up!

 

 

I'd open my eyes and my silly rabbit would be there. It at

> least made me think of something other than the pain. The more I did

> that, the longer were the spaces between when I took another dose.

> It's like I had found the basic fluid of life, and with my thought I

> could have it shower down on me.

>

> I wasn't actively trying to stop the pain meds, in fact I kind of

> liked them. The thought was not really there that it was about them,

> it was about healing this body. It wasn't spiritual, it was an

> engineer seeking balance in a complex system. Doing what I could to

at

> least slow down entropy.

 

Yes, that's what I want to do. Slow down the severity and frequency

of the pain, while I am working on my spiritual body and Kundalini.

Luckily I only work part time and that is voluntary, so on bad days

or weeks I can stay at home.

 

>

> The turning point happened quite suddenly, 3 months down the line,

my

> wife was going into town and wanted to know if I needed my script

> refilled. it was time, it was due, but the script was for 200 pills

> and when we looked I had 100 left. That is when I made the

connection

> between the energy work and the meds.

 

That must have been a 'eureka!' moment for you. I am working towards

that goal myself.

 

>

> 2 weeks later I stopped taking any of them. Yes I did spent most of

> the day, in energy collection. My body made some quite drastic

> changes. The hair on my arms and legs grew another 3 inches. Freaks

> some people out when they look at my arms. It is not a testosterone

> thing, because the surgical intervention actually decreased that .

> Montauk Chia talks about the hair being tiny antennas seeking out

more

> chi.

 

As a woman with no bodily hair I don't really fancy that!. In fact if

you see my photo in the files you will see that I am cutting my hair

for charity. It is 42inches long.

 

>

> Gawd I'm long winded aren't I, ...

 

No, not at all. It was good of you to take time with me.

 

Peace Skydancer and if I can help with the pain I am here and well

> versed. I understand pain.

 

Maybe we can be " Kundalini Pain " buddies?

 

Blessings, Skydancer x

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Julie,

 

I am sorry to hear about your situation. I also find that if I am

mobile the pain lessens. Maybe that's the positive energy being able

to run more freely through the body? There is the point about feeling

sorry for oneself but luckily I have gotten over that. Drinking more

water helps a lot and so does visiting the local beach when its a

good day.

 

Thanks for your reply and I hope to be Med free like yourself, one

day.

 

Lady S. x

 

 

, Julie

<jewelport wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Welcome Skydancer to the group,

> I am also surviving cancer, and would not resort to surgical

intervention again.  Sometimes I have pain, whether it is related to

any disease or just " growing up " I don't know.   I can choose to feel

sorry for myself and stay in bed, and it stengthens, or I can get up

and move, and take a yoga class, or take my grandbabies to the park,

swim, or just sit by the water, watching the dogs frolic at Zilker

Park.  If I choose the latter, I forget about me, and magically, the

pain goes away.  I find the cleaner I can keep myself, whether in

thought, word, deed, or diet, the less I suffer any pain, whether it

be physical or mental. And I don't even keep an aspirin in my house. 

Just me...........

>  

> I can't come close to Don's words; but am interested in learning

about his book on CHI.  Again, welcome to our group............Thank

you for your kind offers of teaching and therapy....

>  

> May you find answers to all you seek............

>  

> hugs and blessings,

> Julie

[Guest guest]

a vitamin deficiency is not something I had considered. I will look

into it a bit more. Thanks Nicole,

 

Lady S. x

 

, " ntaroiu "

<lsirca wrote:

>

> I don't know if this is appropriate or not but many people now

have

> Vitamin D deficiency,myself included and the bad thing is that they

> don't even know it.The symptoms can range from fatigue,muscle

cramps

> and decreased muscle strength,depression,weight gain and not being

> able to lose weight,joint pain,headaches etc.

>

> love,nicole

>

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Yes LS,

> > There are folks right now in the middle of this pain and

it

> > can be severe. Often with Kundalini one cannot go half way. One

> must

> > really devote every waking minute to some aspect of the

Kundalini.

> > Either clearing issues for its further infusion of the body or

> > learning what the agenda is for you. It is important to know what

> is

> > occurring and that it is indeed Kundalini that is occurring.

> >

> > Osteo issues and arthritis or bursitis can give sensations of

> > crepetice in the joints. So one can image those out with a modern

> > imaging dx from the MD. Yet with the Kundalini this will not be

> > expressed with in the visual or measuring modalities that are

> > presently used in the medical practice.

> >

> > These are stuck energies or stagnant energetic responses. As is

> > stated in the safeties you DO NOT WANT TO GO THERE. It hurts

> > constantly. But there are ways to relieve these pains.

> >

> > Most of these ways do not include a pill or an injection or a

pain

> > killer of any type. No chemicals or plant extracts are used for

> this

> > because " it is and is not " of the body systems at the same time.

> And

> > no spells or incantations or entities are used either. This is a

> > personal relationship between you and your Kundalini.

> >

> > It is Kundalini that is encountering blockage of various types

> > within the physical structure itself. And the Kundalini is

> > relentless. It will burn or dissolve the blockage away to flow

> > through these areas. If not given a clearance it will make a

> > clearance! Ouch! It can be like acid burning through the areas it

> is

> > stuck in.

> >

> > I have had this and do not anymore so realize that there are ways

> > out that does not include drugs or pills or injections or pain

> > clinics. It does require courage and the willingness to be honest

> > and open and able to follow instructions to the letter.

> Instructions

> > that may not make any sense to your logical or spiritual mind.

The

> > ego will also have problems with some of these instructions. So

> this

> > is an FYI.

> >

> > For treatment I will ask folks to come here:

> >

> > http://health.Kundalini-Healing/

> >

> > There are some permissions and some tests that are also not very

> > open to linear understandings. Yet these must be done. So there

you

> > have it LS. It is not forever and yet it will require effort and

> > trust and commitment. -

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Excuse me for butting in, but I would recommend Ultram as an

alternative to narcotics. It is often used in cancer.

 

Melissa

 

 

undalini-Awakening-Systems-1 , " Skydancer "

<ionaskydancer wrote:

>

> Thank you Merlin6949,

>

> I'm sorry to hear about your brush with 'C'. I cannot imagine how

> that must feet emotionally along with the pain it causes.

>

> Yes, pain does creep up on you and like you I take Oxycontin. I

was

> concerned about taking it but nothing else touched the pain.

Luckily

> (for me) my dose is much lower than yours. I am presently

counselling

> a woman with chronic pain and the more I hear, the more common it

> seems to be.

>

> > I was diagnosed with the big C. as the pain seemed to creep in

and

> > take over more and more of my life. I was up to between 10 and 16

> > percocettes , oxycotin, a day. <500mg I think> Finishing that

off at

> > night with 3 or 4 or 5 very stiff burbons to be able to attempt

to

> > sleep. We bought a new couch because many nights I would wake my

> wife

> > moaning in my sleep. We have seven cats and I swear they had a

> > schedule, on who's turn it was to sit and be with Dad on the

couch.

>

> I have also made close friends with my couch, and as a co-

incidence

> my husband will be getting me a kitten on my birthday so I'll have

> company.

> >

> > There was some work the Mds could do with a surgical

intervention. I

> > went for that but only went for the barest minimum, ended up

done in

> > the doctors office. Now that seemed to actually be a turning

point,

> > there was a feeling of pressure lifted. Not so much pain gone but

> > pressure.

> >

> > I had already started what I call my " energy " work. There is a

> > wonderful book on chi, I'll try and dig up title and author

> tomorrow.

> > But my search started there and so did my practice.

>

> It would be great if you could give me the title. Thank you.

>

> >

> > Here's another disclaimer, I had just sold my business so I was

> > financially able to do nothing at all but concentrate on my

work.

> >

> > I let myself go, I surrendered to it. I opened myself to the

energy

> > around me. If you don't know yet I live an idylic life, off in

the

> > woods of maine. I opened and let it flow through me all of the

> energy

> > around me. I found swiming in it, floating on it, letting it

wash

> all

> > over me, just me and the energy alone and naked, I found it cut

down

> > the pain.

>

> It sounds like bliss where you live. Be careful you don't have a

> coach load of visitors turn up!

>

>

> I'd open my eyes and my silly rabbit would be there. It at

> > least made me think of something other than the pain. The more I

did

> > that, the longer were the spaces between when I took another

dose.

> > It's like I had found the basic fluid of life, and with my

thought I

> > could have it shower down on me.

> >

> > I wasn't actively trying to stop the pain meds, in fact I kind of

> > liked them. The thought was not really there that it was about

them,

> > it was about healing this body. It wasn't spiritual, it was an

> > engineer seeking balance in a complex system. Doing what I could

to

> at

> > least slow down entropy.

>

> Yes, that's what I want to do. Slow down the severity and

frequency

> of the pain, while I am working on my spiritual body and

Kundalini.

> Luckily I only work part time and that is voluntary, so on bad

days

> or weeks I can stay at home.

>

> >

> > The turning point happened quite suddenly, 3 months down the

line,

> my

> > wife was going into town and wanted to know if I needed my script

> > refilled. it was time, it was due, but the script was for 200

pills

> > and when we looked I had 100 left. That is when I made the

> connection

> > between the energy work and the meds.

>

> That must have been a 'eureka!' moment for you. I am working

towards

> that goal myself.

>

> >

> > 2 weeks later I stopped taking any of them. Yes I did spent most

of

> > the day, in energy collection. My body made some quite drastic

> > changes. The hair on my arms and legs grew another 3 inches.

Freaks

> > some people out when they look at my arms. It is not a

testosterone

> > thing, because the surgical intervention actually decreased

that .

> > Montauk Chia talks about the hair being tiny antennas seeking

out

> more

> > chi.

>

> As a woman with no bodily hair I don't really fancy that!. In fact

if

> you see my photo in the files you will see that I am cutting my

hair

> for charity. It is 42inches long.

>

> >

> > Gawd I'm long winded aren't I, ...

>

> No, not at all. It was good of you to take time with me.

>

> Peace Skydancer and if I can help with the pain I am here and well

> > versed. I understand pain.

>

> Maybe we can be " Kundalini Pain " buddies?

>

> Blessings, Skydancer x

> >

>

t

[Guest guest]

The very best way to give yourself more vitamin D is sunlight on bare

skin. I think its been a very large factor foe me. Good call nicole !!

 

Peace

 

Don

 

 

 

I don't know if this is appropriate or not but many people now have

> Vitamin D deficiency,myself included and the bad thing is that they

> don't even know it.The symptoms can range from fatigue,muscle cramps

> and decreased muscle strength,depression,weight gain and not being

> able to lose weight,joint pain,headaches etc.

>

> love,nicole

>

[Guest guest]

Hopefully some help Skydancer. My brush with C isn't over, my last two

biopsies came back positive. Held it a bay for about 2.5 years and plan

to keep on doing just that.

 

And there's another point for you, know, all the way deep inside that you

can do what you set out to do. Love is one of the safeties for a reason. A

good place to start is with yourself. Find things your body enjoys and do

them.

Pain can feed on itself, you have to give yourself a break from it.

 

Never forget shakti is right there with you. Listen for her and to her.

 

Now I have to go hunt up that book. <Grin>

 

Peace

 

Don

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your mail. Yes, I have been aware of 'things'

going on and my visions getting brighter & clearer and just a feeling

of lightness that I've not had before.

 

Then at 7.30am GMT it happened!!

 

I went to the bathroom to have a pee, expecting to go straight back

to sleep to be woken at 11am by my husband, on his return from work,

for lunch. As I sat there I felt as if my insides were opening up and

I was giving birth but the wrong way round? Up through my body

instead of down I can now fully understand why it is called a snake

as that it what it felt like-a snake making its way up through my

body and coming out at the 3rd eye.

 

As it rose higher I had to go down onto the floor. Our bathroom floor

is tiled over concrete and usually cold, but It felt warm and

strangest of all, I felt as if I was sinking into it. All the while

this snake was still working its way up pushing against - I don't

know what?

 

Then I thanked god my husband was at work as I let out an almighty

scream as if I was giving birth or having the biggest orgasm ever!!

It seemed to go on for ever, with all the glorious technicolour

mandalas and 'arrows' coming down into me. I have never experienced

anything like it before. I'm still in shock and awe of it all.

 

It lasted about half an hour then I went back to bed and as I closed

my eyes I could see people coming up and shaking my hand,

saying " Well Done " . I even saw the image of my first boyfriend who

has recently got back in touch after 35yrs.

 

Please Chrism, tell me that this was the Kundalini?

 

Blessings,

Lady S. x

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Offlist or on, it would more depend upon your comfort levels LS.

Lets

> see what happens because if you havent noticed you are already

being

> given to. The aggregate Kundalini Shakti that has collected here in

> this group is expressed as an egregore of positive love based

> interactions with those who come here.

>

> Kundalini Shakti has very few boundaries and cyberspace isnt one of

> them. You are being given to as you read and interact within this

> group. So lets see what begins to happen with your pain! -

blessings

> LS - chrism

>

> , " Skydancer "

> <ionaskydancer@> wrote:

> Thank you Chrism,

> > Thank you for replying so fully.

>

[Guest guest]

That was a spinal sweep! Yes a " part " of the Kundalini. So yes you are

on your way. Have a look at and make a copy of the safeties and do the

locks eyes, tongue, fingers. Place the chin on your chest or slightly

towards your chest when meditating.

 

Be happy! This is a momentous experience in ones life and you have

taken a big step. Stay hydrated and if your kidneys begin to expand in

size no worries its normal. Try not to place or manufacture gifts.

Just let them come naturally. This will have positive effects upon

your pain. You may wish to reschedule your pain clinic. - blessings -

chrism

 

 

, " Skydancer "

<ionaskydancer wrote:

>

> Thank you for your mail.