Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Not saying " all " entities do this. I am saying that some of them do and unless one can discern between these types of entities one should be very careful in cultivating a relationship with them and giving them access to other people. It isnt fair and it isnt safe and it is irresponsible unless you can discern without a doubt that you are not being used to " bring in the harvest " . I do agree with this person Alex Collier. We are given free will. We are given the ability to learn and discern. We are given a form of divinity already in our body. So why are we chasing other creatures, who may or may not have positive ulterior motivations towards us, in partnership for healings. It seems lazy to me. A person can cultivate these skills without going outside of themselves. Yes it takes work and study and diligence and patience. But it can be done. No you may not have instant gratification. But it isnt about being the instant great healer or is it? Most people can get to the point of using their own energy for the benefit of others and this goes far beyond the laying on of hands. Which among these two options is the most responsible route to take? You and your energy giving a healing or you and a group of non corporeal unknown and mostly non communicative entities that may have an unspoken profit motive? I leave that to you and your discernment. - , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > " The love that you withhold is the pain you are carrying. " >Linda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Thank you chrism, You are looking at a person who does not want to have anything to do with any enities, low or high. It is hard for me to trust people, much less some 4D being. Just me and God, that is all I need. I called on Jesus everytime that enity tried anything with me. LOL! It got really pissed at me time or two for doing that. I really think I must have zapped it with my K energy that last time. I didn't mean to kill it... I hope I didn't, actually. I hope I just scared it away. I have had a few run-ins with some mosquitos here and there since but nothing I couldn't handle. I am not bragging here. I would be in big trouble without my friend and saviour, Jesus Christ. He is my shield. I want to learn to heal with the power of God that is already within me. I have don't this a few times spontaneously with spirit working through me, but would like to know more how to do it at will, the way Jesus did it. The bible says he taught the deciples how to heal, but it doesn't tell what was taught. The disciple were doing this before they were baptized by the Holy Spirit. From the way I read, it seemed to me he must have taught them some principles of spiritual laws. But then agian, sometime I think it is not meant for me to heal anyone, unless I am lead to do so by the Holy Spirit. But even so, if I learned some healing principles, I would still need to trust Spirit to lead me to the ones who should recieve and not just go around laying hands on everyone that I learn of who is experiencing some health problem. I guess you would need the gift of discernment, no matter what. Linda , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Not saying " all " entities do this. > > I am saying that some of them do and unless one can discern between > these types of entities one should be very careful in cultivating a > relationship with them and giving them access to other people. > > It isnt fair and it isnt safe and it is irresponsible unless you can > discern without a doubt that you are not being used to " bring in the > harvest " . > > I do agree with this person Alex Collier. > > We are given free will. > We are given the ability to learn and discern. > We are given a form of divinity already in our body. > > So why are we chasing other creatures, who may or may not have > positive ulterior motivations towards us, in partnership for > healings. > > It seems lazy to me. > > A person can cultivate these skills without going outside of > themselves. Yes it takes work and study and diligence and patience. > But it can be done. No you may not have instant gratification. But > it isnt about being the instant great healer or is it? > > Most people can get to the point of using their own energy for the > benefit of others and this goes far beyond the laying on of hands. > > Which among these two options is the most responsible route to take? > You and your energy giving a healing or you and a group of non > corporeal unknown and mostly non communicative entities that may > have an unspoken profit motive? > > I leave that to you and your discernment. - > > , " Linda " > <crazycats711@> wrote: > > " The love that you withhold is the pain you are carrying. " > >Linda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Didn't Jesus transfer healing energy through the "laying on of hands".............anointing with oil? or just speaking his words of healing energy? blessings, Julie--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Linda <crazycats711 wrote: Linda <crazycats711 Re: Reiki and K healing- UFOs & Astral Enities-- Linda Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 7:19 PM Thank you chrism, You are looking at a person who does not want to have anything to do with any enities, low or high. It is hard for me to trust people, much less some 4D being. Just me and God, that is all I need. I called on Jesus everytime that enity tried anything with me. LOL! It got really pissed at me time or two for doing that. I really think I must have zapped it with my K energy that last time. I didn't mean to kill it... I hope I didn't, actually. I hope I just scared it away. I have had a few run-ins with some mosquitos here and there since but nothing I couldn't handle. I am not bragging here. I would be in big trouble without my friend and saviour, Jesus Christ. He is my shield.I want to learn to heal with the power of God that is already within me. I have don't this a few times spontaneously with spirit working through me, but would like to know more how to do it at will, the way Jesus did it. The bible says he taught the deciples how to heal, but it doesn't tell what was taught. The disciple were doing this before they were baptized by the Holy Spirit. From the way I read, it seemed to me he must have taught them some principles of spiritual laws.But then agian, sometime I think it is not meant for me to heal anyone, unless I am lead to do so by the Holy Spirit. But even so, if I learned some healing principles, I would still need to trust Spirit to lead me to the ones who should recieve and not just go around laying hands on everyone that I learn of who is experiencing some health problem. I guess you would need the gift of discernment, no matter what.LindaKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "chrism" <@ ...> wrote:>> Not saying "all" entities do this. > > I am saying that some of them do and unless one can discern between > these types of entities one should be very careful in cultivating a > relationship with them and giving them access to other people.> > It isnt fair and it isnt safe and it is irresponsible unless you can > discern without a doubt that you are not being used to "bring in the > harvest".> > I do agree with this person Alex Collier. > > We are given free will. > We are given the ability to learn and discern. > We are given a form of divinity already in our body. > > So why are we chasing other creatures, who may or may not have > positive ulterior motivations towards us, in partnership for > healings. > > It seems lazy to me. > > A person can cultivate these skills without going outside of > themselves. Yes it takes work and study and diligence and patience. > But it can be done. No you may not have instant gratification. But > it isnt about being the instant great healer or is it? > > Most people can get to the point of using their own energy for the > benefit of others and this goes far beyond the laying on of hands.> > Which among these two options is the most responsible route to take? > You and your energy giving a healing or you and a group of non > corporeal unknown and mostly non communicative entities that may > have an unspoken profit motive?> > I leave that to you and your discernment. - > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "Linda" > <crazycats711@ > wrote: > > "The love that you withhold is the pain you are carrying."> >Linda> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Yikes, No way do I want anything to do with anything of the sort. Honestly, I watched the movie the Exorcist, and still have nightmares... lol You guys have alot of courage to tackle such things... My belief is to leave that alone, as it is darkness, and that is where it shall lay for me.... Sharon--- On Thu, 7/31/08, chrism <> wrote: <> Re: Reiki and K healing- UFOs & Astral Enities-- Linda Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 7:25 PM Not saying "all" entities do this. I am saying that some of them do and unless one can discern between these types of entities one should be very careful in cultivating a relationship with them and giving them access to other people.It isnt fair and it isnt safe and it is irresponsible unless you can discern without a doubt that you are not being used to "bring in the harvest".I do agree with this person Alex Collier. We are given free will. We are given the ability to learn and discern. We are given a form of divinity already in our body. So why are we chasing other creatures, who may or may not have positive ulterior motivations towards us, in partnership for healings. It seems lazy to me. A person can cultivate these skills without going outside of themselves. Yes it takes work and study and diligence and patience. But it can be done. No you may not have instant gratification. But it isnt about being the instant great healer or is it? Most people can get to the point of using their own energy for the benefit of others and this goes far beyond the laying on of hands.Which among these two options is the most responsible route to take? You and your energy giving a healing or you and a group of non corporeal unknown and mostly non communicative entities that may have an unspoken profit motive?I leave that to you and your discernment. - Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "Linda" <crazycats711@ ...> wrote: > "The love that you withhold is the pain you are carrying.">Linda> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 That is true, Julie, but in places in the bible it does state that Jesus taught the 12 diciples a deeper teaching than what he gave to people in general. They were given the deeper hidden meanings of the parables, as well. Some healing had to be done through fasting & prayer for the cause, as well. Linda , Julie <jewelport wrote: > > > > > Didn't Jesus transfer healing energy through the " laying on of hands " .............anointing with oil? or just speaking his words of healing energy? > > blessings, > Julie > > --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Linda <crazycats711 wrote: > > Linda <crazycats711 > Re: Reiki and K healing- UFOs & Astral Enities-- Linda > > Thursday, July 31, 2008, 7:19 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 ok, thanks for that info..........i didn't realize that...i got much from emmet fox's books about scientific prayer........... blessings.....--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Linda <crazycats711 wrote: Linda <crazycats711 Re: Reiki and K healing- UFOs & Astral Enities-- Linda Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 9:30 PM That is true, Julie, but in places in the bible it does state that Jesus taught the 12 diciples a deeper teaching than what he gave to people in general. They were given the deeper hidden meanings of the parables, as well. Some healing had to be done through fasting & prayer for the cause, as well. LindaKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Julie <jewelport@. ..> wrote:>> > > > Didn't Jesus transfer healing energy through the "laying on of hands"...... .......anointing with oil? or just speaking his words of healing energy? > > blessings,> Julie> > --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Linda <crazycats711@ ...> wrote:> > Linda <crazycats711@ ...>> [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: Reiki and K healing- UFOs & Astral Enities-- Linda> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Thursday, July 31, 2008, 7:19 PM> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 Thank you Chrism, as always, for looking out for us. I was beginning Reiki when I joined this group and I dropped it to concentrate on the K. Boy am I glad! What you say makes so much sense, not to allow outside influences to have access to us. Sarita , "chrism" <> wrote:>> Not saying "all" entities do this. > > I am saying that some of them do and unless one can discern between > these types of entities one should be very careful in cultivating a > relationship with them and giving them access to other people.> > It isnt fair and it isnt safe and it is irresponsible unless you can > discern without a doubt that you are not being used to "bring in the > harvest".> > I do agree with this person Alex Collier. > > We are given free will. > We are given the ability to learn and discern. > We are given a form of divinity already in our body. > > So why are we chasing other creatures, who may or may not have > positive ulterior motivations towards us, in partnership for > healings. > > It seems lazy to me. > > A person can cultivate these skills without going outside of > themselves. Yes it takes work and study and diligence and patience. > But it can be done. No you may not have instant gratification. But > it isnt about being the instant great healer or is it? > > Most people can get to the point of using their own energy for the > benefit of others and this goes far beyond the laying on of hands.> > Which among these two options is the most responsible route to take? > You and your energy giving a healing or you and a group of non > corporeal unknown and mostly non communicative entities that may > have an unspoken profit motive?> > I leave that to you and your discernment. - > > , "Linda" > crazycats711@ wrote: > > "The love that you withhold is the pain you are carrying."> >Linda> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2008 Report Share Posted July 31, 2008 I have never heard of scientific prayer, nor Emmet Fox. I'll have to check it out. I hope it not on the lines of Benny Hinn and the other TV healer types. Linda , Julie <jewelport wrote: > > > > > ok, thanks for that info..........i didn't realize that...i got much from emmet fox's books about scientific prayer........... > blessings..... > > --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Linda <crazycats711 wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 No No, he gives insight into Jesus and his parables. He weaves together science, intellict, and spiritual principles for manifestation and divine healing in his writings. One of his books breaks down the Sermon on the mount in a thought provoking way. He just brought me closer to the teachings of Jesus, and the gifts that were accessible to us by utuilizng certain principles. It was an eye-opener for me. I'm sorry but I don't put much faith into the typical tv evengelical, no matter how much they cry and shout, or how nice their hair is.. Blessings, Julie--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Linda <crazycats711 wrote: Linda <crazycats711 Re: Reiki and K healing- UFOs & Astral Enities-- Linda Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 10:14 PM I have never heard of scientific prayer, nor Emmet Fox. I'll have to check it out.I hope it not on the lines of Benny Hinn and the other TV healer types. :)Linda Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Julie <jewelport@. ..> wrote:>> > > > ok, thanks for that info........ ..i didn't realize that...i got much from emmet fox's books about scientific prayer...... .....> blessings... ..> > --- On Thu, 7/31/08, Linda <crazycats711@ ...> wrote:> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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