Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Welcome Venus! Did I understand you correctly: you spent several months of physical time with Chrism?? If so, that's WAY more than any of the rest of has spent with him in person. If you have spent several months with him in person...and much of your quiet time since you joined reading all that is available here written by Chrism, then the answer to your question is easy: ....what does your gut tell you? I think I can speak for most of the members when I say that what says and does resonates with me. It 'feels' right. My gut tells me he is an authentic person whose only mission is to help people awaken their Kundalini as safely as possible. He has never 'shoved' anything down our throats and none of us has been forced to sign a blood oath or any other type of contract to follow him. And, we are all free to take his advice....or not. Most importantly, no one is chained to this group. We are free to be a part of this community...or not. If our gut tells us something is wrong, we can leave. If his teachings don't resonate with us, we can leave. One last thing....this comment of yours: "Chrism's incredible egotistical reaction to smileforme' s courageous post".... What is so courageous about someone who joins a group and 2 days later, forms a complete judgment about the teacher, airs it anonymously to the entire membership, and makes accusations (such as him being an alcohol and cannabis user) that he/she cannot prove? This is the action of a coward, throwing stones from behind the safety of anonimity. And you might want to reread Chrism's response to smileforme....there was no egotism there....instead, he: --forgave him/her for the anomymous judgment, --told him/her that he/she had the right to question his teachings, --assured him/her that others have questioned him and others will surely question him in the future (so he/she wouldn't feel foolish for writing the post), and --invited him/her to come out from behind his/her mask You have the right to question or any of the rest of us, Venus. I believe that if you stay in the group, you will find it to be the most incredible source of Kundalini information and support you could ever dream of. Listen to your inner guidance as you continue to get to know and his Kundalini teachings...that is all that any of us can do as we venture into an area of spirituality that is largely misunderstood and feared. Blessings & love, Claudia--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Venus Mirlo <venusmirlo wrote: Venus Mirlo <venusmirloRe: Re: chrism's kundalini experience Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 11:32 AM Hi everyone, my name is Venus and I am new here...well a week or so. Been spending much of my quiet time reading all that is available here, written by Chrism. Today, I read Smilesforme' s post about Chrism's Kundalini Awakening and it made me realize that I really don't know anything, whatsoever about this man or whether he is "enlightened' or not, or about a thing he calls a scatterfield that has never been written about before. So this post by smilesforme leaves me with a huge question mark, he is right about how we are trusting our spiritual journey to a person who claims quite a bit but has shown no proof at all. As I said before, I have spent countless hours, since joining this group, just reading. I am a spiritual student, for eons and much of what has written about and his teaching and experiences with kundalini is all but new to me and I am not new to Kundalini believe me. How do you folks know he is the real deal, if you have not walked in his shoes? Spent several months of physical time with him, how do I really know if what he teaches is the truth or something he just made up? What about the beer drinking and drugs? How does he know so much of the lingo? Another concern that I have is his incredible egotistical reaction to smilesforme' s courageous post. I have been with amazing spiritual teachers and I tell you none and I mean none would react to such post with such little class, he didn't even go into anything about what smilesforme wrote other than what found that needed to be defended in "an ego" level.I like someone to explain this to me, please. Sorry for the long post, but I had to say something about this, this is a serious matter, it's like playing Russian roulette with my spiritual consciousness by leaving it on the hands of a teacher that might be teaching me bogus opinions of what his ego self wants us to believe.Peace and love,Venus gleno <gleno@kundalini- mail.com>Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Saturday, August 2, 2008 4:58:26 PM[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: chrism's kundalini experience A couple of points for our friend...(a) What we react to in another is always an unresolved aspect of ourself.(b) These reactions always contain errors in judgment (judge not lestyou be judged) as they are formed only from that individuals limitedego (false self) perception and as such can never contain real truth.© So the only benefit of dissecting and drawing learnings from these"judgments" is in relation to oneself.Putting ones awakening views into the public domain and baitingoneself such our smiling friend has done shows enormous subconsciousfortitude as aspects of self are intentionally shaken to promote theirshifting consciousness. When I know this I can only feel compassionfor our friends struggle. )Love to you, glen.Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 (AT) (DOT) com, "ShenMahakashyapa Ch'an" <blue.suns@. ..> wrote:>> importance to how another approaches kundalini? Why is what you say > anymore truthful or appropriate than what states? You "seem" to > have a hijacking mentality. There is further for you to go before you > can approach your own ideals. -blue> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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