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Sarita,I came here, as most of you folks probably did, to obtain genuine information about Kundalini. I did not come here with any intention to answer the kind of email I felt I had to answer. I have been reading countless pages of old posts that date back to 2006 with the hope to discern for myself what is valid for me and what is not. I am in search of the truth as many here are. My email was to ask all if any of smilesforme's information was valid, using your observations and not your opinions.I have been in the presence of a real enlightened teacher and I can assure you, the way asnwered smileforme's post would not have been the way an enlightened teacher would of answered. He'd not take any offense with anyone's observations of

himself, regardless of the content. I do agree in many of the points that smilesforme brought up, and all these feels to me like the last episode with one of your members named Carol, where someone brought up a point regarding and all of you bashed it, like smilesforme said "pack loyalty". This is why I came out of my cuddling corner and decided to speak up. No one and I mean no one knows what is in ANYONES' heart, not even Selena who claims to know for that many years, in person and otherwise. Jesus was an enlightened being, Buddha was an enlightened being, Rama Krishna was an enlightened being their radiance was incredible. I am not convinced that is an enlightened being, enlightened beings create an incredible harmonious community without the need of such emotions to surface between its members when the leader is faced with other people's observations.I am Venus, Sarita, always have and

I will always be. If you want to call me smilesforme, that's fine, I love smiling. I just probably cannot use that email address because smilesforme probably has already taken it, umph.Peace and love,VenusSarita <sarita1969 Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 9:12:13 PM Re: chrism's kundalini experienceKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Venus Mirlo <venusmirlo@. ..> wrote:>> Hi everyone, my name is Venus and I am new here...well a week or so. Been spending much of my quiet time reading all that is available here, written by Chrism. Today, I read Smilesforme' s post about Chrism's Kundalini Awakening and it made me realize that I really don't know anything, whatsoever about this man or whether he is "enlightened' or not, or about a thing he calls a scatterfield that has never been written about before.**Aside from the fact that both smiles and your profiles were last edited right when joining this group, which I find a bit curious...No, you don't know anything about and his teachings nor do you know anything about me, smilesforme or the easter bunny. I find it curious that you are so willing to

jump on the bandwagon of what someone who joined the group a few days ago has to say. That said, it is always wise to question, in fact encourages us to question! So this post by smilesforme leaves me with a huge question mark, he is right about how we are trusting our spiritual journey to a person who claims quite a bit but has shown no proof at all. As I said before, I have spent countless hours, since joining this group, just reading. I am a spiritual student, for eons and much of what has written about and his teaching and experiences with kundalini is all but new to me and I am not new to Kundalini believe me.**Frankly, I am left with a big question mark about your motives. Why not share some of your vast knowledge with us? What is so different about Chrism's teachings as opposed to others? I'm sure we are all interested to hear about your research, with

sources provided of course. How do you folks know he is the real deal, if you have not walked in his shoes? Spent several months of physical time with him, how do I really know if what he teaches is the truth or something he just made up?**I know he is the real deal through my experiences with him over the past few years. I know what is truth through my inner discernment. How do YOU or smiles know that he ISN'T the real deal? It's easy to sling mud and generalized questions at someone, but how about supporting those positions with facts? What about the beer drinking and drugs? How does he know so much of the lingo?**LOL. I know lots of "lingo" and yet I have never even smoked pot. Aside from that, never made a claim to sainthood. He may have done things in his past that he no longer does. Where is the

proof that he drinks and does drugs? In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof is NOT on Chrism, it's on his accusers. Another concern that I have is his incredible egotistical reaction to smilesforme' s courageous post. I have been with amazing spiritual teachers and I tell you none and I mean none would react to such post with such little class, he didn't even go into anything about what smilesforme wrote other than what found that needed to be defended in "an ego" level.**Personally, I find nothing *courageous* about someone hiding behind a mask slinging mud at someone in their own "home" and showing no respect for the members. Everyone is free and entitled to question and have opinions, but most spiritually evolved people use some semblance of respect when doing so. That's a big clue for me right there.> I like

someone to explain this to me, please. Sorry for the long post, but I had to say something about this, this is a serious matter, it's like playing Russian roulette with my spiritual consciousness by leaving it on the hands of a teacher that might be teaching me bogus opinions of what his ego self wants us to believe.**This is very serious. You are entitled to your opinion as surely as any of us are. There is something disturbing to me though about someone who tries to sway the masses against the teacher. If one is trying to discern their own path, that's great and I give kudos to them. But if they are just trying to discredit someone or ruin things for others, then I question their motives, level of spiritual evolution and how much of their ego is in play. There are those of us (me included) that have benefitted greatly from Chrism's teachings. He helps people find

their way, get out of pain, resolve personal issues, offers support, I could go on and on...I challenge anyone to find one thing within the safeties that isn't just good clean living. Even if I wasn't inclined to be K active, the safeties are the way I would want to live anyway.If you are for real and not just another profile made up to attack Chrism, then I sincerely hope you will read ALL of the responses with an open mind and that you will use your inner discernment. Best of luck to you.Sarita

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Hi Venus,

 

Just out of curiosity, how did you know your teacher was enlightened?

I've met people that I felt had seen more of the map than me, but

I've not been able to know that any of them were enlightened.

 

Peter

 

 

 

, Venus Mirlo

<venusmirlo wrote:

>

> Sarita,

> I came here, as most of you folks probably did, to obtain genuine

information about Kundalini. I did not come here with any intention

to answer the kind of email I felt I had to answer. I have been

reading countless pages of old posts that date back to 2006 with the

hope to discern for myself what is valid for me and what is not. I am

in search of the truth as many here are. My email was to ask all if

any of smilesforme's information was valid, using your observations

and not your opinions.

> I have been in the presence of a real enlightened teacher and I can

assure you, the way asnwered smileforme's post would not have

been the way an enlightened teacher would of answered. He'd not take

any offense with anyone's observations of himself, regardless of the

content.

> I do agree in many of the points that smilesforme brought up, and

all these feels to me like the last episode with one of your members

named Carol, where someone brought up a point regarding and all

of you bashed it, like smilesforme said " pack loyalty " . This is why I

came out of my cuddling corner and decided to speak up. No one and I

mean no one knows what is in ANYONES' heart, not even Selena who

claims to know for that many years, in person and otherwise.

Jesus was an enlightened being, Buddha was an enlightened being, Rama

Krishna was an enlightened being their radiance was incredible. I am

not convinced that is an enlightened being, enlightened beings

create an incredible harmonious community without the need of such

emotions to surface between its members when the leader is faced with

other people's observations.

> I am Venus, Sarita, always have and I will always be. If you want

to call me smilesforme, that's fine, I love smiling. I just probably

cannot use that email address because smilesforme probably has already

taken it, umph.

> Peace and love,

> Venus

>

>

>

>

> Sarita <sarita1969

>

> Saturday, August 2, 2008 9:12:13 PM

> Re: chrism's kundalini

experience

>

>

>

> Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Venus Mirlo

<venusmirlo@ ..> wrote:

> >

> > Hi everyone, my name is Venus and I am new here...well a week or

so. Been spending much of my quiet time reading all that is available

here, written by Chrism. Today, I read Smilesforme' s post about

Chrism's Kundalini Awakening and it made me realize that I really

don't know anything, whatsoever about this man or whether he is

" enlightened' or not, or about a thing he calls a scatterfield that

has never been written about before.

> **Aside from the fact that both smiles and your profiles were last

edited right when joining this group, which I find a bit curious...

> No, you don't know anything about and his teachings nor do

you know anything about me, smilesforme or the easter bunny. I find

it curious that you are so willing to jump on the bandwagon of what

someone who joined the group a few days ago has to say. That said, it

is always wise to question, in fact encourages us to question!

> So this post by smilesforme leaves me with a huge question mark, he

is right about how we are trusting our spiritual journey to a person

who claims quite a bit but has shown no proof at all. As I said

before, I have spent countless hours, since joining this group, just

reading. I am a spiritual student, for eons and much of what Chrism

has written about and his teaching and experiences with kundalini is

all but new to me and I am not new to Kundalini believe me.

> **Frankly, I am left with a big question mark about your motives.

Why not share some of your vast knowledge with us? What is so

different about Chrism's teachings as opposed to others? I'm sure we

are all interested to hear about your research, with sources provided

of course.

> How do you folks know he is the real deal, if you have not walked

in his shoes? Spent several months of physical time with him, how do I

really know if what he teaches is the truth or something he just made up?

> **I know he is the real deal through my experiences with him over

the past few years. I know what is truth through my inner

discernment. How do YOU or smiles know that he ISN'T the real deal?

It's easy to sling mud and generalized questions at someone, but how

about supporting those positions with facts?

> What about the beer drinking and drugs? How does he know so much of

the lingo?

> **LOL. I know lots of " lingo " and yet I have never even smoked pot.

Aside from that, never made a claim to sainthood. He may have

done things in his past that he no longer does. Where is the proof

that he drinks and does drugs? In this country we are innocent until

proven guilty. The burden of proof is NOT on Chrism, it's on his

accusers.

> Another concern that I have is his incredible egotistical reaction

to smilesforme' s courageous post. I have been with amazing spiritual

teachers and I tell you none and I mean none would react to such post

with such little class, he didn't even go into anything about what

smilesforme wrote other than what found that needed to be

defended in " an ego " level.

> **Personally, I find nothing *courageous* about someone hiding

behind a mask slinging mud at someone in their own " home " and showing

no respect for the members. Everyone is free and entitled to question

and have opinions, but most spiritually evolved people use some

semblance of respect when doing so. That's a big clue for me right there.

>

> > I like someone to explain this to me, please. Sorry for the long

post, but I had to say something about this, this is a serious matter,

it's like playing Russian roulette with my spiritual consciousness by

leaving it on the hands of a teacher that might be teaching me bogus

opinions of what his ego self wants us to believe.

> **This is very serious. You are entitled to your opinion as surely

as any of us are. There is something disturbing to me though about

someone who tries to sway the masses against the teacher. If one is

trying to discern their own path, that's great and I give kudos to

them. But if they are just trying to discredit someone or ruin things

for others, then I question their motives, level of spiritual

evolution and how much of their ego is in play. There are those of us

(me included) that have benefitted greatly from Chrism's teachings.

He helps people find their way, get out of pain, resolve personal

issues, offers support, I could go on and on...

> I challenge anyone to find one thing within the safeties that isn't

just good clean living. Even if I wasn't inclined to be K active, the

safeties are the way I would want to live anyway.

> If you are for real and not just another profile made up to attack

Chrism, then I sincerely hope you will read ALL of the responses with

an open mind and that you will use your inner discernment. Best of

luck to you.

> Sarita

>

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