Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 we need your vegan related comments for K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 As I continue to grow as a spiritual being, I am learning that the importance of diet or thought control or pretence of being who we really are is not of so much importance as surrender! We live in a dualistic world. We have an opposite to love that exists within us all. We might suppress this fact and pretend to be other or we might defend our selfs by attacking others who show signs of our own disdain for ourselves. The truth is that we all have a dualistic side to ourselves. Our bodies are programed to survive! In my process of learning to surrender, I have found that as I am willing to let go of my ego self and allow my higher self to take control, It's manifestation within me becomes stronger! This becomes progressive to the point that you will become your higher self in physical manifestation! As this happens, your kundalini will manifest in accordance. My thoughts only! Love and Light bob P.S. The resonance of love is the sound of ascension -- In , " Shahin " <sh1963sh wrote: > > > step zero - survey comments > > Hi all > May the (force=kundalini=chi=prana=shakti=holy spirit) be with you. > > > Preface > ============== > This is what I believe. It might or might not be the way that reality > is. This hypothesis can be examined scientifically. > > > > Hypothesis > =============== > There exist infinite steps to the final goal that is > (perfection=joining the unified field=enlightenment=dissolving in > God=getting infinitely near to the God or existence) > > step 0 is being vegan or at lest vegetarian > step 1 is to start with a certain level of love and it will increase > > That means: Do not kill my brothers and sisters and say I am in love > with existence and poetic claims like that. This is certainly an > untruth poetic claim, if the claimer is non-veg. This might be or > might not be truth, if the claimer is veg. > > > > Method > ============== > An anonymous survey on the web > This is a way of finding statistical correlation between being veg and > K or different stages of K > > I will make a survey on the web and request politely from all people > of this group to check it and after a month I will give you the results. > > > > Potential Questions > =============== > > - are you vegan > - are you vegetarian > - are you corpse eater > > - are you K active > - are you awakened > - are you enlightened > > - how many months since K have activation > - other questions that you friends suggest > > > Usefulness > ============ > a- Just for the fun of it. It wont take more than an hour to make the > survey and upload to my web server > > b- Its results might have educational effect for me and/or others > > > Your comments and other questions to be added to the survey are welcome > > have a happy day > > Regards > > Shahin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I guess I missed this earlier, I am a meat eater, solid, rare, large chunks of beef. Cook me a prime rib and I am yours. A huge slab of beef, baked maine potatoes, and fresh greens. I'm set for 3 days I don't need to eat again. I object to the thought that vegetarians are better people. They are not, they are just different. Why have this better than the other thing? I'm willing to let you have your biochemistry, why can't I have mine. I tap the same vein of light. I eat one meal a day. Goggle reduced caloric consumption. I work hard, with my body, chop wood carry water.. Living with setting others apart, making judgements on them is not the way. And I mean it is not THE WAY. Peace Don >> >> Potential Questions >> =============== >> >> - are you vegan >> - are you vegetarian >> - are you corpse eater >> >> - are you K active >> - are you awakened >> - are you enlightened >> >> - how many months since K have activation >> - other questions that you friends suggest >> >> >> Usefulness >> ============ >> a- Just for the fun of it. It wont take more than an hour to make > the >> survey and upload to my web server >> >> b- Its results might have educational effect for me and/or others >> >> >> Your comments and other questions to be added to the survey are > welcome >> >> have a happy day >> >> Regards >> >> Shahin >> > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 contrary to popular belief lol! i eat beef ,chicken ,potatoes , honey, seeds ,and milk if you eat a potato a death occurs, look at the ouroboros the snake eating itself.. life eating life..a natural cycle of nature.. there is no guilt... paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Animals eating animals is the natural life cycle, I was a vegetarian for many years and now I eat meat, I was no more spiritual when I was a vegetarian as to now. Being a vegetarian actually made me weak, I need meat proteins. Blood type O. God does not judge us on what we eat. I do not believe that there is a " better " diet spiritually or that bad karma is gained from eating flesh of animals who give themselves selflessly for our nourishment and probably ascend up the wheel of reincarnation due to this fact. Just eat whats good for you. Love and meaty steaks elektra x x x Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Typically one will need to partake of both areas. Vegeterianism is useful and so is eating meat. Kundalini will require both. One isnt better than the the other merely nourishing different areas. Consider that plants are also conscious and able to be measured on an ekg monitor and express emotional response and even music preference. They faint before harm comes their way, see " The Secret Life of Plants " by Christopher Bird Another book was also published. I have both books and they are loaded with excellent information. " Secrets of the Soil " is the second book. Plants have been measured in ways that confer a form of consciousness. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_Life_of_Plants http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-Soil-Solutions-Restoring- Planet/dp/1890693243 http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Life-Plants-Peter- Tompkins/dp/0060915870/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b/105-6068967-1708414 So when we take this into account in our consuming of plants it is similar to that of consuming of animals who eat the plants. There can be little judgement that the spider and snake being carnivores are not as blessed as the corn plant or apple tree bending in the breeze. They both give us gifts in different ways. We need them both to survive and to become enlightened. - my take - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 chrism for me everything has consciousness , metal , rocks , atoms am i wrong? paula > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I'll throw in my two cents on this one, Regardless of where the food comes from, I think it's important to give thanks to it. If we slow down a bit and really truly think of everything that's gone into the food, all the people (and or animals) that have helped bring it to our plate, and be really thankful our bodies will get more out of the food. And our Kundalini of course. If we give thanks to the air too, and of course the water we drink it's great for us as well. As well all know now, water holds consciousness. We should hop into that ocean whenever we get a chance hmm? (But maybe not from bridges or the cruise ship while in the Arctic.) If we can give thanks to the water with every drop we drink, dish we wash, shower we have and every single flush as well the world will be a better place. The water continually recycles and separates but continually returns to the whole. Just as we are, all one. *** On another note, I had a nice millipede cling to the bottom of my shoe yesterday in my home, I did a nice one foot hop across the room to give him a free ride out the door, similar to Don's toad. Unfortunately for mosquittos they weren't included in the Geneva Insect convention. (smirk) Quite often I'll think it's raining outside when I glance out the window to see a tree in the distance. The shimmer of energy looks like rain at a casual glance. That must happen to others? lots of love to everyone, bradly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Hi... i eat lots of different things...including meat, but not too much. I try and eat lots of vegetables and fruit and seem to drink vast amounts of water and green tea. The last week I have been enjoying strawberry ice-cream tremendously, along with filter coffee in the mornings. I have been K. active for about 2 1/2 years now...thats when I started having spinal sweeps. Diet is important though...whats important is to learn to listen to the body... Spirituality for me starts with an unceasing desire for unconditional freedom and a yearning to know God.. i think thats what set K. off. all the best with your survey... Bruce -- In , " Shahin " <sh1963sh wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 At 12:02 AM 8/17/2008, you wrote: Animals eating animals is the natural life cycle, I was a vegetarian for many years and now I eat meat, I was no more spiritual when I was a vegetarian as to now. There is a terrific cartoon, Kevin and Kell, based on the idea of a world where animals are the sentient creatures. It has a running sub-plot about " diet discrimination " that some of you may enjoy. www.kevinandkell.com ... go back to the beginning, it makes more sense if you understand the story as it unfolds. I do find there is some dietary discrimination in the spiritual community. I recall one message here a while back where the writer said something about assuming we were all vegans ... I didn't say anything at the time, but frankly, I found it offensive. I don't see one diet as superior to the other - different people have different needs. I get very ungrounded, nervous and sickly when I don't eat meat. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 , " Shahin " <sh1963sh wrote: hey shahin & group i find this.. steps to ... enlightment or k awake or what ever one wants to define it as intersting in that you are looking for the... steps to...?? we all come into each incarnation with a different makeup and destiny and what have we carried over from another life time such as if one had been a monk of some sort in a past life, his awakening in this life might say come easy or with a spontaneous awakening brought on by just living a simple healthy life style . where as somone else may be a younger soul with fewer life times and hence has to meditaite eat veg or vegan and live a very strict discplined life and still no awakening . or ones astrological chart may be a one who is a mystic and it all is just innate and natural to them hence the live an enllightened life. or more difficult yet someone comes inot this incarnation and is abused as a child they have a lot of healing to do and an awakening may not even be in there destiny just the simple fate of healing and coming to a place of peace may be enough there are no infinte steps with a guarntee of enlightenment. i personally had a spontaneous k awakening by simply by healing from a dysfunctional familly and trying to find personal health. little did i know the healing and healthy, not fanatical, life style wich includes meat, lead me to a k awakening and it gets better and better every day and year that i just keep up my yoga practice and my meditaion and work on healing others. it would be fun to know what brought each person to there awakening but by no means using it as a how to manual or the steps to enlightment.. as i am sure many here can say there path has been ever winding with different and varied tools thought got them to there destination. and the road is never ending till u die and the it just keeps going .... (read journy of souls... we all choose the path to our destiny) peace out narayan > > > step zero - survey comments > > Hi all > May the (force=kundalini=chi=prana=shakti=holy spirit) be with you. > > > Preface > ============== > This is what I believe. It might or might not be the way that reality > is. This hypothesis can be examined scientifically. > > > > Hypothesis > =============== > There exist infinite steps to the final goal that is > (perfection=joining the unified field=enlightenment=dissolving in > God=getting infinitely near to the God or existence) > > step 0 is being vegan or at lest vegetarian > step 1 is to start with a certain level of love and it will increase > > That means: Do not kill my brothers and sisters and say I am in love > with existence and poetic claims like that. This is certainly an > untruth poetic claim, if the claimer is non-veg. This might be or > might not be truth, if the claimer is veg. > > > > Method > ============== > An anonymous survey on the web > This is a way of finding statistical correlation between being veg and > K or different stages of K > > I will make a survey on the web and request politely from all people > of this group to check it and after a month I will give you the results. > > > > Potential Questions > =============== > > - are you vegan > - are you vegetarian > - are you corpse eater > > - are you K active > - are you awakened > - are you enlightened > > - how many months since K have activation > - other questions that you friends suggest > > > Usefulness > ============ > a- Just for the fun of it. It wont take more than an hour to make the > survey and upload to my web server > > b- Its results might have educational effect for me and/or others > > > Your comments and other questions to be added to the survey are welcome > > have a happy day > > Regards > > Shahin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I really like your line of thought on the subject Brad! We take a lot for granted and it is good to be thankful. Saying grace can sometimes become an automatic thing, without thought. Thanks for the reminder! Sarita , "curball2002" <curball2002 wrote:>> I'll throw in my two cents on this one,> > Regardless of where the food comes from, I think it's important to > give thanks to it. If we slow down a bit and really truly think of > everything that's gone into the food, all the people (and or animals) > that have helped bring it to our plate, and be really thankful our > bodies will get more out of the food. And our Kundalini of course.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 I agree with you, Paula.There are no inanimate objects-some objects are just very very slow.blessingsOn Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 10:16 PM, alayafire <ari.reza wrote: chrism for me everything has consciousness , metal , rocks , atoms am i wrong? paula > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 > I agree with you, Paula. > There are no inanimate objects- > some objects are just very very slow. I'm not slow I'm just blonde! love e x x x Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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