the last post about not killing animals

[Guest guest]

Yes plants are alive. Rocks are alive and conscious. I sent another

larger post but it was censored. It is ok. this in not my show. i let

you people run it and i am out just looking.

 

I did not claim a vegan is BETTER than a K or a MORTAL. i said this:

 

Killing and torturing animals is in contradiction with LOVE.

 

what i received was this

 

1- you are vulgar - ignorant - yes it is truth - thanks

2- you are lonely - yes it is truth - thanks

3- you are proud - yes it is truth - thanks

4- I do not read your posts any more - that is ok - this is the last

one

 

I did not see any REASONING about why you can not see the

contradiction.

 

Either kill and torture your brothers and sisters (animals) and do

not claim LOVE and hairy fairy stuff, or DO it and accept that you

are like rest of the 5 billion human-animals that this PROUD VULGAR

guy thinks he is better than them.

 

I am not condemning a dog becasue it eats meat. it is a dog. does not

have so many options - but you humans have - and you LOVY, K people

are supposed to be more LOVY than other humans.

 

Any way - that is enough.

 

As the last recommendation i dare you to do this:

 

========

go and CUT the throat of a cow or sheep or chicken

do it yourself, do not leave it to the poor butcher that is a

deformed alienated human because of your request. It is not about

food, it is about killing and torturing.

 

Go to a butcher factory and OBSERVE <<<just 15 minutes>>>.

 

See your LOVY heart accepts what is happening there or not?

========

The VOLGAR PROUD guy, is going to work on his deficiencies to fix

them. I hope one day it happens.

 

Live in peace and LOVE with the cry of the tortured chicken in your

stomach and repeat the mantra (I am in love with it all)

Does it work?

 

End of this line of discussions.

[Guest guest]

i agree with you shahin,

plants rocks metal everything is alive..

and has a natural cycle of creation and destruction..

look at the symbol of the ouroboros snake, it is eating its own tail,

this represents life eating itself, to sustain itself..

 

perhaps the killing of the animal isnt the reason why some religions

dont partake of meat, perhaps it is the way the life force or

kundalini travels through the body of the animal that is the problem,

 

shaman dont eat pork,before a journey. the shaman believe it chases

away spirit if you eat it...as some meats such as chicken have

monoamine oxidase (m.a.o.) as part of their make-up that play with

the brain receptors thus perhaps blocking the kundalini..

 

muslims dont eat pork as they dont like the animal with the cloven

hoof , believing that the life force energies that travel up the

split hoof do not work with the human energies..

 

the cow , i think is not eaten as she represents the sacred mother ,

she gives milk, her horns match the wax and wane of the moon the

symbols of isis , a goddess of the kundalini..

i find cow interesting as they have 4 stomachs and eat their own

poo..(yes they do , im in the countryside i know) and get energy

from their own waste, to me this is like a breatharian, almost..

it has turned an evolutionary corner somewhere to be able to do this

in my opinion..

 

the whale is another example of an enigmatic beast, its food is

microscopic ! again another animal that has trancended the need to

eat..how and what is supporting its life , pranna , chi, kundalini???

 

maybe there is something to what you say...

paula

[Guest guest]

Hello Shahin,

No worries my friend you are a good person and I do not

feel that your interest in this topic is anything less than as you

say " an expression of love " .

 

Yes it is clear that there is truth to what you say in regards to

killing. To communicate it by way of attacking others isn't the best

way of helping others to understand your points. There is some

passion associated with your feelings about this and I do understand

that as well but sometimes passion can be used as a vehicle for the

ego to use instead of the teacher which is you are Shahin in this

case. You are the teacher in this.

 

Calling your students and brothers and sisters " murderers "

and " corpse eaters " may not be the kindness that allows one to view

a different and alternative way. It brings resistance instead of

compliance.

 

There is a book out right now that one of my naturopathic MD friends

is pushing its called:

 

" The 80/10/10 diet " Here is the url:

http://www.amazon.com/80-10-Diet/dp/1893831248

 

It talks about many of the issues of eating as a Simian or an Ape

eats. Our body is of the design of these animals and we share many

similarities from teeth structure to bipedal locomotion to other

anatomical similarities.

 

You are correct Shahin. Seeds and fruit are our most natural and

nutritious foods. So thank you for that information my friend.

 

But in the case of the Kundalini I must give over to what the Shakti

decides is best for an individual. You see we in this modern society

haven't led a foraging existence. We do not have the availability

for certain types of the diverse foods that a forager would come to

know and understand as nutritious. We have become locked into

certain comfort zones of consumption right or wrong from a moral

basis.

 

We have come over thousands of years to have an expectation of meat

in the diet. Our bodies have used meat and the products of meat to

the degree that when the Shakti comes SHE will demand a consumption

of a certain meat FOR the Kundalini to be healthy and happy in its

infusion of the five bodies.

 

When this occurs for you Shahin if Shakti indicates to you that you

must partake of meat will you instead lecture her on how immoral

this is or will you surrender to her and consume the meat?

 

Narayan is also correct about the absolute value of no meat in the

diet as there are conditions related to a lack of certain food

variables that can cause health issues. But let's take the moral

imperative even farther.

 

When you walk and step on a bug that bug will typically die. Same

with driving a car or riding a bicycle or flying a jet as bugs get

sucked into the intake. What about those lives? They are the largest

animal kingdom that are eyes can physically see. So do they not also

count as beings with lives and consciousness? In my mind they do.

 

I keep bees now and the lives of insects our brought to my attention

every day. Wasps have a right to live. Ants have a right to live.

Butterflies and Dragonflies and Fireflies and Ladybugs have a right

to live.

 

They all have the right to live. But they will still get stepped on.

Sometimes it is the lay of the land.

 

So I agree with you Shahin. We can raise our consciousness to the

degree of knowing and acting in these ways. But it must be a

personal choice. People need to come to this as a personal

revelation not as an accusation of crimes committed in innocence and

ignorance. Not through hurtful comments no matter the justification.

And after the Kundalini comes and the unity is experienced this mind

set will assuredly come.

 

But in the case of Kundalini infusing the body and the requirements

of the body during this process I will step back and allow the

Shakti in a person to make the decisions for that person. I will ask

that the " divine one ness of all " help a person as they are best

helped with regard to the ingestion of foods that are most

appropriate for them inside of the Kundalini. Shakti is the divine

Mother she knows what is best for us all. - my take on this - many

blessings to you Shahin. - chrism

[Guest guest]

Men are the hunters and women are the preparers, I have eaten a chicken moments

after choosing it alive and well in an island of indonesia, the chickens are

loved and cared for and free, I kissed it and said thankyou right before it was

killed and I ate it giving reverence to it.

I look after animals and treat them with respect. Eating them does not mean I do

not love them, as I always give thanks and blessings upon its soul and

acknowledge the gift it has given me.

Perhaps through its death and selfless act of being food for me and my kundalini

it is given a step up the wheel of reincarnation and so my eating it is helping

its soul's journey.

So, this makes it a loving act then yes?

 

Elektra x x x

 

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[Guest guest]

You might be right Shahin,but i do have to eat what K tells

me.Sometimes the thought of eating meat makes me throw up but other

times i eat it.Other times i eat a vegan diet and i love it.I think

that it differs from individual to individual.

 

love,nicole

 

 

 

, " Shahin "

<sh1963sh wrote:

>

> Yes plants are alive. Rocks are alive and conscious. I sent another

> larger post but it was censored. It is ok. this in not my show. i

let

> you people run it and i am out just looking.

>

> I did not claim a vegan is BETTER than a K or a MORTAL. i said this:

>

> Killing and torturing animals is in contradiction with LOVE.

>

> what i received was this

>

> 1- you are vulgar - ignorant - yes it is truth - thanks

> 2- you are lonely - yes it is truth - thanks

> 3- you are proud - yes it is truth - thanks

> 4- I do not read your posts any more - that is ok - this is the

last

> one

>

> I did not see any REASONING about why you can not see the

> contradiction.

>

> Either kill and torture your brothers and sisters (animals) and do

> not claim LOVE and hairy fairy stuff, or DO it and accept that you

> are like rest of the 5 billion human-animals that this PROUD VULGAR

> guy thinks he is better than them.

>

> I am not condemning a dog becasue it eats meat. it is a dog. does

not

> have so many options - but you humans have - and you LOVY, K people

> are supposed to be more LOVY than other humans.

>

> Any way - that is enough.

>

> As the last recommendation i dare you to do this:

>

> ========

> go and CUT the throat of a cow or sheep or chicken

> do it yourself, do not leave it to the poor butcher that is a

> deformed alienated human because of your request. It is not about

> food, it is about killing and torturing.

>

> Go to a butcher factory and OBSERVE <<<just 15 minutes>>>.

>

> See your LOVY heart accepts what is happening there or not?

> ========

> The VOLGAR PROUD guy, is going to work on his deficiencies to fix

> them. I hope one day it happens.

>

> Live in peace and LOVE with the cry of the tortured chicken in your

> stomach and repeat the mantra (I am in love with it all)

> Does it work?

>

> End of this line of discussions.

>