the earth___birds

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two comments related to what wrote:

 

1- the earth, anthropomorphism

Yes. It is not anthropomorphism. It is a fact (not a belief). To find

detailed info, read the patanjalee's sutras. The earth, The sun, both

are bodies of two conscious beings. They have their <jiva atma>.

<jiva> exists in every human, plant, animal, insect, sub-atomic

particle. It seems like a paradox (every atom of my body is conscious

and has a soul, and as the whole package I have a soul, what is going

on? I leave it outside the K message board.

someone's body is small as an electron

someone's body is a bit larger as the sun

<jiva> is not { <the drop of God> = <param atma particle> } . It is

the personal soul of the entity.

 

 

 

2- animals know and see

one example. I usually have bread or coockie with me for birds. This

was so cool. I was in a cafe. sitting outside. several tables. many

people. A sparrow came and sat just in front of me looking at me, not

moving, not jumping up and down as they usually do, and waiting. and

he got his coockie. I am not sure how he knew, but he knew.

[Guest guest]

I'm a science geek as might be evident so I found this article

http://news.iskcon.com/node/1214/2008-08-23/do_subatomic_particles_have_free_wil\

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to be really cool Some mathematicians have come up with a proof

that if human beings have free will then so must everything else, even

sub-atomic particles.

 

So that makes our bodies one giant community that for some amazing

reason agrees to all work together. Perhaps we are raising our energy

by convincing everyone to all focus on the same intention?

 

-Gabriel

 

, " Shahin "

<sh1963sh wrote:

> Yes. It is not anthropomorphism. It is a fact (not a belief). To find

> detailed info, read the patanjalee's sutras. The earth, The sun, both

> are bodies of two conscious beings. They have their <jiva atma>.

> <jiva> exists in every human, plant, animal, insect, sub-atomic

> particle. It seems like a paradox (every atom of my body is conscious

> and has a soul, and as the whole package I have a soul, what is going

> on?

[Guest guest]

your post makes sence to me gabrelle..

***So that makes our bodies one giant community that for some amazing

reason agrees to all work together. Perhaps we are raising our energy

by convincing everyone to all focus on the same intention?***

 

 

a multi-celled organism , rather than a single celled organism.

communicating through an electro-magnetic force , we call shakti,

the electricity is the fire , the spirit. look at the painting of

god giving life to adam. the focus of the painting was'nt god or

adam,

but the electrical force that passed between them...

 

as you see the earth and the universe all have this force, and fire

too is conscious...

 

paula

[Guest guest]

Hello to another science geek Gabriel.

Have you discovered Lazlo and the zero point field yet? The classic

experiment is to take a faraday cage, drop the temp inside to absolute

zero. According to classic physics there should be nothing there, no

energy, but in reality instruments measure a truly large field.

 

Quanta that are created together, much like the instant of creation

when everything was born, these quanta become entangled, and always

will be in contact no matter where they end up, including thousands of

light years apart. Or, our quanta entangled with the quanta of the

earth itself, they are after all the same. Sounds a bit like " all are

one " doesn't it. This is also called non-local coherence.

 

Coherence is a remarkable thing. There is no way our bodies can

process the information and signaling needed to keep operating if you

look at a purely physical level. The pathways just do not contain

enough bandwidth for the amount of information needed to flow. If we

handed over control of the body and all the feedback mechanisms to the

brain you would die instantly. Instead as we build in complexity,

coherence steps in, an underlying reality that we receive operating

instructions from. A gestalt if you will that is greater than the

whole. I do believe we can sense that. That's part of my work and

practice, tuning the receiver, maybe surrender is wide-banding it.

 

A laser is more coherent light, and I tend to think K is a more

coherent life force. Just as a laser has to be tuned, so do we before

we can perceive the K. The information density, is just that much

higher. sometimes overwhelming.

 

Chuckle, some much for quantum physics 101. I've lately been playing

with the math for this, just another language to express it in. Do my

practice in the morning, drive to the ocean, practice and then just

sit with my notebook. My calculus is rusty though. Gravity has me

spellbound, there still is no answer for it.

 

Now I'm a gemini, I can hold two completely different thoughts in my

brain with no discomfort at all. Grin. So here is a great example of

non-local coherence.

 

The heavens tell of the glory of God.

The skies display his marvelous craftsmanship.

Day after day they continue to speak;

night after night they make him known.

They speak without a sound or a word;

their voice is silent in the skies;

yet their message has gone out to all the earth,

and their words to all the world.

—Psalm 19:1-4, NLT

 

Post more Gabriel

 

Peace

 

Don

 

, " strider200142 "

<gabriel wrote:

>

> I'm a science geek as might be evident so I found this article

>

http://news.iskcon.com/node/1214/2008-08-23/do_subatomic_particles_have_free_wil\

l

> to be really cool Some mathematicians have come up with a proof

> that if human beings have free will then so must everything else, even

> sub-atomic particles.

>

> So that makes our bodies one giant community that for some amazing

> reason agrees to all work together. Perhaps we are raising our energy

> by convincing everyone to all focus on the same intention?

>

> -Gabriel

 

>

[Guest guest]

hey...science geeks re-wrote this in your honour lol!

 

 

(antiparticleAUMantiparticle)

 

love paula...

[Guest guest]

Hi Don, thanks for the great reply!!

 

Yes, I've delved into all the less standard viewpoints of physics

I find them usually the most interesting... It became obvious to me

that physics is missing quite a bit of reality, most significantly the

energy of life and the realm of consciousness.

 

Quantum entanglement is all the rage now and it is going to open up

the door on reality for scientists (well, the next step anyway!). The

most obvious indication that this is an important topic is the number

of people vehemently trying to discredit entanglement. Some

mathematician out there tried to explain that the physicists simply

didn't really know their math and it was a simple statistical

issue.... HA! Too bad the science is exploding out of control right

now

 

Entanglement does indeed show that we are connected and it definitely

refutes some of Einstein's ideas about the world which science has

clung to for too long. We are connected even on the level of

sub-atomic particles and information seems to travel between

instantly. Einstein called this " spooky action at a distance " . I bet

some religious scriptures would have a good definition for such a

phenomena, but scientists dare not venture there

 

To solidify the point, Don you mentioned the faraday cage at near

absolute zero and a huge energy field. This sounds a lot like one

I've heard, where scientists made a vacuum at near absolute zero and

found out that sub-atomic particles would pop into existence at

random. They explain this away by saying that the particles disappear

so quickly that conservation of energy is not violated and so it is

ok. Umm, " random " creation? But it happens fast enough so that's

fine? LOL!!

 

Also, right on Paula! The force that makes our crude matter jump

around is truly what matters

 

Until now the electro-magnetic force has been the pinnacle of our

understanding, but this quantum entanglement is a different aspect

altogether. So electro-magnetism may just be the closest we've come

to the spiritual force until now? Or if anything I'd say its just the

magnetic :\

 

Here's a fun bit about magnetism! All magnetic fields arise from the

motion of " charges " . Its the movement and change that creates the

magnetic fields, even in a generic bar magnet or even lodestone (the

electrons whirling around the atom in a unified direction). Calling

it a field is so boring... I like to think of magnetic fields as the

dancing energetic mandalas that carries energy between.

 

-Gabriel

 

PS: Sorry for the long post people, chrism please let me know if I

should respond individually to people with such in depth responses.

Wasn't sure how it fits into the posting guidelines of not getting too

far off topic.

 

, " merlin6949 "

<merlin wrote:

>

> Hello to another science geek Gabriel.

> Have you discovered Lazlo and the zero point field yet? The classic

> experiment is to take a faraday cage, drop the temp inside to absolute

> zero. According to classic physics there should be nothing there, no

> energy, but in reality instruments measure a truly large field.