Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Hey Chrism, Hope these questions are okay... So how should we think of the Earth? Is it divine? Is even 'mother' an appropriate label or does it mislead us? So is it here just to help us with our own changes? Or is there any other 'agenda' for the earth, however nonhuman like it is? Is the earth merely a 'platform' that is helping us evolve and reflects back to us what we are all thinking, experiencing and manifesting? Can you tell us what our sun and the other planets have to do with our process, and our kundalini, if anything? If you think this direction is going too far from what is truly important, that's fine. Thanks for all you do Chrism, bradly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Earth is a creation of the divine. It carries a neg. charge and is feminine in nature. It is part of the duality of creation of which we are part and is an aspect of the polarity of what we can utilize to become at-one inside of the Kundalini. Sun is a creation of the divine. It carries a positive charge and is also part of duality. Moon is as the fire or water and has ancillary qualities that can influence our choices based upon evolutionary maturation within its presence. Not because it has been here the whole of human existence as has the Sun and the Earth. These all have a consciousness but it is not human or even remotely so any more than a human has the consciousness of an ant or a piranha or of space dust. Yes All are part of creation and all are part of divinity yet in their own paradigms do they exist. Like humans exist in the human paradigm. Paradigms can be communicated and interwoven as the Shaman cultures do. But not to the dismissal of the cradle of the incarnated consciousness. Earth doesn't have need chakras or Kundalini or astral projection or Frito's or cornflakes or television except as we as beings that are part of the earth use and express through these areas. We are part of the Earth and all of our traits are encapsulated within its expression. As is every other form of creation that carries the Earth signature part of the Earth. But as we are not the sole expression of the fecal matter that leaves our body neither are the celestial bodies a sole expression of who and how we mere humans are. Especially in regards to the Kundalini. They are already where we are trying to evolve into. I haven't read David's book. Oh excuse me.... Drunvalo Melchezadek's and his channeled Thoth entity's book. I have read some of his material: the flower of life essays 1 & 2 and I do not accept his theories as fact. Regardless of how he dresses them up they are not a fact except for him and those who follow him...and Thoth his entity of course. I am sure he is a nice fellow though. Don't know about Thoth. Earth and Sun and Moon and Stars, Quasars and Meteor, Asteroid, Comets and Gas giants, Black holes, Galaxies, Gas clouds, Star Clusters, Dark Matter, do not have the attributes of the human being. They have their own attributes that are unique to them and their particular creative processes. Some of it similar to us but different. They do not have a spine or a chakra or a left big toe. In the physical sense. They do not have a need to build a bridge into the divine as the divine has always been there for these divine creations. They are vehicles for those of us who must learn through duality a path towards at-one-ment into the divine fields. They are not here to ascend or to work through Karma or to fall from grace. They are here to support the human and every other creation that is supported by this great planetary and celestial system. Just as our evolution supports them. We project our qualities upon them like a baby whale mistakes a ship for its mother. Often the baby whale will die as the ship cannot feed it. Same with projecting our specific qualities into and upon celestial objects. I espouse personal responsibility without projection towards the outward but introspection towards the inward. I suggest taking full responsibility for who and how and what a person is without regard to star and planetary alignments. Without the need to justify activities, fabricated or otherwise, that mimic human energetic evolutionary examples. From an energetic evolutionary standpoint. Yes they are part of a great and fantastic system! A wonderful system and we resonate with what they give. So does water and wind and rain and fire give to us aswell. These are also part of us and work within the system that allows us to be. Yet neither do they have human consciousness they have their own. Fire doesn't need Kundalini. Water doesn't need Kundalini. Neither does the wind. These elements are not locked into a blind five sense conscious system, as we are. They are here to assist us within ours and others within theirs. Like teachers perhaps. Showing us through the five senses what it is we reflect of the qualities they espouse. I honor your beliefs in this matter you are free to have them and so I will not continue along this vein. I will merely agree to have our differences in approach and understandings as one person wears plaid and another wears solid clothing. It is that important to me. I will move on. Not everything I write will ring true for everyone. Most in the general population would laugh out loud! - lol. blessings all - chrism , " curball2002 " <curball2002 wrote: > > Hey Chrism, > > Hope these questions are okay... > > So how should we think of the Earth? Is it divine? Is even 'mother' > an appropriate label or does it mislead us? > > So is it here just to help us with our own changes? Or is there any > other 'agenda' for the earth, however nonhuman like it is? > > Is the earth merely a 'platform' that is helping us evolve and > reflects back to us what we are all thinking, experiencing and > manifesting? > > Can you tell us what our sun and the other planets have to do with > our process, and our kundalini, if anything? > > If you think this direction is going too far from what is truly > important, that's fine. > > Thanks for all you do Chrism, > > bradly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Lots of discussion; I am being "mesmerized" by the eyes of everyone in the Autumnal Shaktipat................Very cool............ Julie--- On Sun, 8/24/08, chrism <> wrote: <> Re: Mother Earth Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 3:04 PM Earth is a creation of the divine. It carries a neg. charge and is feminine in nature. It is part of the duality of creation of which we are part and is an aspect of the polarity of what we can utilize to become at-one inside of the Kundalini. Sun is a creation of the divine. It carries a positive charge and is also part of duality. Moon is as the fire or water and has ancillary qualities that can influence our choices based upon evolutionary maturation within its presence. Not because it has been here the whole of human existence as has the Sun and the Earth. These all have a consciousness but it is not human or even remotely so any more than a human has the consciousness of an ant or a piranha or of space dust. Yes All are part of creation and all are part of divinity yet in their own paradigms do they exist. Like humans exist in the human paradigm. Paradigms can be communicated and interwoven as the Shaman cultures do. But not to the dismissal of the cradle of the incarnated consciousness.Earth doesn't have need chakras or Kundalini or astral projection or Frito's or cornflakes or television except as we as beings that are part of the earth use and express through these areas. We are part of the Earth and all of our traits are encapsulated within its expression. As is every other form of creation that carries the Earth signature part of the Earth. But as we are not the sole expression of the fecal matter that leaves our body neither are the celestial bodies a sole expression of who and how we mere humans are. Especially in regards to the Kundalini. They are already where we are trying to evolve into.I haven't read David's book. Oh excuse me.... Drunvalo Melchezadek' s and his channeled Thoth entity's book. I have read some of his material: the flower of life essays 1 & 2 and I do not accept his theories as fact. Regardless of how he dresses them up they are not a fact except for him and those who follow him...and Thoth his entity of course.I am sure he is a nice fellow though. Don't know about Thoth.Earth and Sun and Moon and Stars, Quasars and Meteor, Asteroid, Comets and Gas giants, Black holes, Galaxies, Gas clouds, Star Clusters, Dark Matter, do not have the attributes of the human being. They have their own attributes that are unique to them and their particular creative processes. Some of it similar to us but different. They do not have a spine or a chakra or a left big toe. In the physical sense. They do not have a need to build a bridge into the divine as the divine has always been there for these divine creations. They are vehicles for those of us who must learn through duality a path towards at-one-ment into the divine fields. They are not here to ascend or to work through Karma or to fall from grace. They are here to support the human and every other creation that is supported by this great planetary and celestial system. Just as our evolution supports them.We project our qualities upon them like a baby whale mistakes a ship for its mother. Often the baby whale will die as the ship cannot feed it. Same with projecting our specific qualities into and upon celestial objects. I espouse personal responsibility without projection towards the outward but introspection towards the inward. I suggest taking full responsibility for who and how and what a person is without regard to star and planetary alignments. Without the need to justify activities, fabricated or otherwise, that mimic human energetic evolutionary examples. From an energetic evolutionary standpoint.Yes they are part of a great and fantastic system! A wonderful system and we resonate with what they give. So does water and wind and rain and fire give to us aswell. These are also part of us and work within the system that allows us to be. Yet neither do they have human consciousness they have their own. Fire doesn't need Kundalini. Water doesn't need Kundalini. Neither does the wind. These elements are not locked into a blind five sense conscious system, as we are. They are here to assist us within ours and others within theirs. Like teachers perhaps. Showing us through the five senses what it is we reflect of the qualities they espouse.I honor your beliefs in this matter you are free to have them and so I will not continue along this vein. I will merely agree to have our differences in approach and understandings as one person wears plaid and another wears solid clothing. It is that important to me. I will move on. Not everything I write will ring true for everyone. Most in the general population would laugh out loud! - lol. blessings all - chrism Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "curball2002" <curball2002@ ...> wrote:>> Hey Chrism,> > Hope these questions are okay...> > So how should we think of the Earth? Is it divine? Is even 'mother' > an appropriate label or does it mislead us?> > So is it here just to help us with our own changes? Or is there any > other 'agenda' for the earth, however nonhuman like it is?> > Is the earth merely a 'platform' that is helping us evolve and > reflects back to us what we are all thinking, experiencing and > manifesting?> > Can you tell us what our sun and the other planets have to do with > our process, and our kundalini, if anything?> > If you think this direction is going too far from what is truly > important, that's fine.> > Thanks for all you do Chrism,> > bradly> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 i smell a lot of projection just my opinion narayan , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Earth is a creation of the divine. It carries a neg. charge and is > feminine in nature. It is part of the duality of creation of which > we are part and is an aspect of the polarity of what we can utilize > to become at-one inside of the Kundalini. > > Sun is a creation of the divine. It carries a positive charge and is > also part of duality. > > Moon is as the fire or water and has ancillary qualities that can > influence our choices based upon evolutionary maturation within its > presence. Not because it has been here the whole of human existence > as has the Sun and the Earth. > > These all have a consciousness but it is not human or even remotely > so any more than a human has the consciousness of an ant or a > piranha or of space dust. Yes All are part of creation and all are > part of divinity yet in their own paradigms do they exist. Like > humans exist in the human paradigm. Paradigms can be communicated > and interwoven as the Shaman cultures do. But not to the dismissal > of the cradle of the incarnated consciousness. > > Earth doesn't have need chakras or Kundalini or astral projection or > Frito's or cornflakes or television except as we as beings that are > part of the earth use and express through these areas. We are part > of the Earth and all of our traits are encapsulated within its > expression. As is every other form of creation that carries the > Earth signature part of the Earth. But as we are not the sole > expression of the fecal matter that leaves our body neither are the > celestial bodies a sole expression of who and how we mere humans > are. Especially in regards to the Kundalini. They are already where > we are trying to evolve into. > > I haven't read David's book. Oh excuse me.... Drunvalo Melchezadek's > and his channeled Thoth entity's book. I have read some of his > material: the flower of life essays 1 & 2 and I do not accept his > theories as fact. Regardless of how he dresses them up they are not > a fact except for him and those who follow him...and Thoth his > entity of course. > > I am sure he is a nice fellow though. Don't know about Thoth. > > Earth and Sun and Moon and Stars, Quasars and Meteor, Asteroid, > Comets and Gas giants, Black holes, Galaxies, Gas clouds, Star > Clusters, Dark Matter, do not have the attributes of the human > being. They have their own attributes that are unique to them and > their particular creative processes. Some of it similar to us but > different. > > They do not have a spine or a chakra or a left big toe. In the > physical sense. They do not have a need to build a bridge into the > divine as the divine has always been there for these divine > creations. They are vehicles for those of us who must learn through > duality a path towards at-one-ment into the divine fields. They are > not here to ascend or to work through Karma or to fall from grace. > They are here to support the human and every other creation that is > supported by this great planetary and celestial system. Just as our > evolution supports them. > > We project our qualities upon them like a baby whale mistakes a ship > for its mother. Often the baby whale will die as the ship cannot > feed it. Same with projecting our specific qualities into and upon > celestial objects. > > I espouse personal responsibility without projection towards the > outward but introspection towards the inward. I suggest taking full > responsibility for who and how and what a person is without regard > to star and planetary alignments. Without the need to justify > activities, fabricated or otherwise, that mimic human energetic > evolutionary examples. From an energetic evolutionary standpoint. > > Yes they are part of a great and fantastic system! A wonderful > system and we resonate with what they give. So does water and wind > and rain and fire give to us aswell. These are also part of us and > work within the system that allows us to be. Yet neither do they > have human consciousness they have their own. Fire doesn't need > Kundalini. Water doesn't need Kundalini. Neither does the wind. > These elements are not locked into a blind five sense conscious > system, as we are. They are here to assist us within ours and others > within theirs. Like teachers perhaps. Showing us through the five > senses what it is we reflect of the qualities they espouse. > > I honor your beliefs in this matter you are free to have them and so > I will not continue along this vein. I will merely agree to have our > differences in approach and understandings as one person wears plaid > and another wears solid clothing. It is that important to me. I will > move on. > > Not everything I write will ring true for everyone. Most in the > general population would laugh out loud! - lol. blessings all - > chrism > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " curball2002 " > <curball2002@> wrote: > > > > Hey Chrism, > > > > Hope these questions are okay... > > > > So how should we think of the Earth? Is it divine? Is > even 'mother' > > an appropriate label or does it mislead us? > > > > So is it here just to help us with our own changes? Or is there > any > > other 'agenda' for the earth, however nonhuman like it is? > > > > Is the earth merely a 'platform' that is helping us evolve and > > reflects back to us what we are all thinking, experiencing and > > manifesting? > > > > Can you tell us what our sun and the other planets have to do with > > our process, and our kundalini, if anything? > > > > If you think this direction is going too far from what is truly > > important, that's fine. > > > > Thanks for all you do Chrism, > > > > bradly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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