Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 i saw a painting of kali ripping the head off of her god... meaning(to me ) she had sacreficed her greatest beliefs to gain unity with the actual god... im in the process of whacking my highest beliefs thanks to you... lets open that pandoras box of yours chrism... you know i can't take secrets i do enjoy your cosmos views..and really am terribly addicted to more.. i have more work than i know what to do with , i ignore it and hang out here ALL of the time show us... paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 The best way to show you is for your Kundalini to be awakened and for your attachments to be released. Last item first - lol. Before that occurs the mundane mind will always dominate. - blessings dear feiend - chrism , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: i saw a painting of kali ripping the head off of her god... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Well that answered my questions. LOL! Thanks Paula and Chrism. Linda , " chrism " <> wrote: > > The best way to show you is for your Kundalini to be awakened and for > your attachments to be released. Last item first - lol. Before that > occurs the mundane mind will always dominate. - blessings dear feiend - > chrism > > , " alayafire " > <ari.reza@> wrote: > i saw a painting of kali ripping the head off of her god... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 my kundalini is full blown open and every thing paula is saying in regards to vortexes is spot on! when i read drunvalos book and have read his past work as well i feel it i have a visereal responce, i physically feel it my chakras in my heart as i read his writing my kundalini spirals up my spin this is how i know him and paulas work of hunting down the vortexes of the planet(good work )and many othere writings to be true. and yes u can say true for me , but it resonnates with kundalini mahta shakti. one can not think there way threw kundalini she is leading you to your heart to feel your way threw this incarnation to come out of this linear brain and into the heart of the world the universe and its entire existance. so if one can relate to a lady bug by feeling into her little energy field well that is beauty and cosmic conciousness at play and in love. peace narayan , " chrism " <> wrote: > > The best way to show you is for your Kundalini to be awakened and for > your attachments to be released. Last item first - lol. Before that > occurs the mundane mind will always dominate. - blessings dear feiend - > chrism > > , " alayafire " > <ari.reza@> wrote: > i saw a painting of kali ripping the head off of her god... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Personally, I love nothing more then to have my ideas and beliefs ripped to shreads as this is the breaking down of the ego mind, which needs to occur, when we cling to tightly to opinions and beliefs we stop our progress towards oneness and divine mind. Thankyou to everyone who pushes the box! I like nothing better then when my blonde head is empty!!! hee hee love elektra x x x Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Narayan, Everything? OK. You can have it your way. This is good too. This does not close off the possiblity or concept that it may not be the absolute truth for everyone. It can be that way for you and for others to be sure. Kundalini in you isnt the same as Kundalini in me or anyone else for that matter. Shakti isnt a universal blending of all incarnate consiousness into one or you would merely read my mind yes? We are still individuals inside of an awakening. We still have the opportunity to see and feel truth as we see and feel it. Sometimes with the Kundalini responding to information it can merely support " our feelings " about the information rather than the information itself. Sometimes this isnt easily discerned. This as much as any resonance about information can cause the Kundalini to spiral - in me. To spike in me. Doesnt mean it is an information truth meter- for me. That comes from a more detached place for me. Not a place where I must need to be attached to being correct or right about an issue. A place where I can see from a more nuetral point of view. But thats perhaps merely myself. If I tell my thoughts and feelings about this subject now I feel it can only turn into another Drama. I will agree to kindly and politely disagree about how some of us feel about this issue. Hostility hurts. - blessings chrism Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " narayanhealingbeauty " <narayanhealingbeauty wrote: my kundalini is full blown open and every thing paula is saying in regards to vortexes is > spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 Truth is a personal thing, and no one person can claim to have rights on the ultimate truth as truth is subjective and creative. I think that God is a collection of all truths combined, like a rainbow, no colour is wrong or right but they come together to make a beautiful collage. Ego makes us stick to our truth as if its the ultimate be all and end all of everything. All possibilites exist simultaneously. But thats just my opinion !!! hee hee, get over yourself already elektra ha ha ha. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 , " chrism " <> wrote: > > If I tell my thoughts and feelings about this subject now I feel it > can only turn into another Drama. I will agree to kindly and > politely disagree about how some of us feel about this issue. > Hostility hurts. Hi everyone. Sorry, but i am feeling a bit uncomfortable about chrism not being able to say what needs to be said or what could be said due to possible fallout. Given recent history of this list, his position is completely understandable. But this is an unintended consequence which is not cool for me. Just wanted to say that. And i hope we can all conduct the group in a way that does not cause this kind of hesitation in future. Love Reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I second that, Reg. This thread is getting on the painful side. " What is Truth? " A very profound question. I don't feel it isn't somrthing that can be found over the net. It's like looking for a needle in a hay stack. Next to impossible without divine guidence, unless you just happen to luck out and step on it.LOL! Linda , " regcorleonis " <regcorleonis wrote: > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > If I tell my thoughts and feelings about this subject now I feel it > > can only turn into another Drama. I will agree to kindly and > > politely disagree about how some of us feel about this issue. > > Hostility hurts. > > Hi everyone. Sorry, but i am feeling a bit uncomfortable about chrism > not being able to say what needs to be said or what could be said due > to possible fallout. Given recent history of this list, his position is > completely understandable. But this is an unintended consequence which > is not cool for me. Just wanted to say that. And i hope we can all > conduct the group in a way that does not cause this kind of hesitation > in future. > > Love > Reg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 hi reg, my posts were far from hostile, i was trying to learn more. from my point of view , i posted about kali cutting the head of her god. meaning , i sacrifice all of my beliefs, please continue to teach me about the cosmos etc in europe we debate with our teachers to glean higher knowledge from them. our teachers delight when this process happens , as it means they have the creative juices flowing. they have captured their students interest. watch uk politics, it's seen there, it is a sign of respect, for us. paula.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hi Paula, when I second Reg statement, I wasn't seeing you or Chrism being the hostile one. Those who feel Drunvalo has such absolute truth, go check out these videos. I think they just might shoot some hole in his theroy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEcfohz8xE & feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sto4F2vBZg & feature=related http://video.google.com/videoplay docid=7803347451411555729 & vt=lf & hl=en Another side of the coin, maybe. The best thing to do is to keep an open mind about it all. Linda , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > hi reg, my posts were far from hostile, > i was trying to learn more. > from my point of view , i posted about kali cutting the head of her > god. meaning , > i sacrifice all of my beliefs, please continue to teach me about > the cosmos etc > in europe we debate with our teachers to glean higher knowledge > from them. our teachers delight when this process happens , as it > means they have the creative juices flowing. > they have captured their students interest. > > watch uk politics, it's seen there, it is a sign of respect, for us. > > paula.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 thats ok linda on a different subject.. i like the flower of life is a true ancient symbol, rosicrucianism teaches about it, rudolph steiner also.. my feminine intuition ,projects, a gut instinct about dunvalo, i don't trust him, like sitchin , there to lead us up the garden path , giving us just enough truth to believe in them.. but thats just me being feminine lol paula , " Linda " <crazycats711 wrote: > > Hi Paula, when I second Reg statement, I wasn't seeing you or Chrism > being the hostile one. > > Those who feel has such absolute truth, go check out these > videos. I think they just might shoot some hole in his theroy. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEcfohz8xE & feature=related > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sto4F2vBZg & feature=related > > http://video.google.com/videoplay > docid=7803347451411555729 & vt=lf & hl=en > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Paula, I have nothing against the flower of life symbol and i have not even read Dunvalo. Did watch a youtube video of his recently. I've just not been lead to read him. I certainly didn't think Dunvalo created the symbol. Hehe! I guess I am a little turn off because of him name, too. Linda , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > thats ok linda > > on a different subject.. > > i like the flower of life is a true ancient symbol, > rosicrucianism teaches about it, rudolph steiner also.. > > my feminine intuition ,projects, a gut instinct about dunvalo, > i don't trust him, like sitchin , there to lead us up the garden > path , giving us just enough truth to believe in them.. > > but thats just me being feminine lol > paula , " Linda " > <crazycats711@> wrote: > > > > Hi Paula, when I second Reg statement, I wasn't seeing you or > Chrism > > being the hostile one. > > > > Those who feel has such absolute truth, go check out these > > videos. I think they just might shoot some hole in his theroy. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEcfohz8xE & feature=related > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sto4F2vBZg & feature=related > > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay > > docid=7803347451411555729 & vt=lf & hl=en > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 i tried to go there but i saw all of the references to sitchin in it, turned me off, also the name as you say linda is a problem. king of righteousness, priest of light... like i say , an instinct turned me off..the flower of life was the symbol that attracted me to him initially, but he feels wrong.. paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 ** I've just not been lead to read him. I certainly didn't think Dunvalo ** shucks did he say he created the f.o.l.? cheeky! ancient, ancient ,symbol, tibetan priests wore it, leonardo da vinci painted it, masons symbol is inside it! watch out or i'll make a list like yesterday lol! love paula.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Just want to cast my vote. I am totally with Reg on this one. I am not liking the vibe of some of the communications here recently. They are not love based and some are bordering on rude and disrespecful. Got K? Then please, allow it to lead. Sarita , "regcorleonis" <regcorleonis wrote:> > Hi everyone. Sorry, but i am feeling a bit uncomfortable about chrism > not being able to say what needs to be said or what could be said due > to possible fallout. Given recent history of this list, his position is > completely understandable. But this is an unintended consequence which > is not cool for me. Just wanted to say that. And i hope we can all > conduct the group in a way that does not cause this kind of hesitation > in future. > > Love> Reg> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 No, but when you go on the net searching, his name and the f.o.l. seems to be tied together all of the place like they are synonymous. LOL! In the video I watch of him he was showing the f.o.l. in the leonado da vincia painting. I really didn't paid much attention while watching it, like I had a mental block. Probably should have made myself pay more attention. Linda , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > ** I've just not been lead to read him. I certainly didn't think > Dunvalo ** > > shucks did he say he created the f.o.l.? cheeky! > > ancient, ancient ,symbol, tibetan priests wore it, > leonardo da vinci painted it, masons symbol is inside it! > watch out or i'll make a list like yesterday lol! > > love paula.. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 NO Drunvalo has never said he created it. His books speak of it as coming from ancient civilizations. > > shucks did he say he created the f.o.l.? cheeky! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 respect your view sharon, with loads of info available today, there is truth mixed with lies, hes not the only one , intuit the good bits from the bad..and search it out further.. for example , he talks about how you can use the flower of life to cure but hes not allowed to talk about how to do this, others do talk about it ..why isnt he?? the flower of life contain the plationc solids the building blocks of life, they fit into the virgin birth curve , and through this you can learn to cure, (rudolf steiner, everything fits into 7) for example , a person is struck down with flesh eating bacteria, and here in the west we can't cure it, but in georgia russia they can using bacterphages, from sewage!! they cure it through nature , how? well the bacteria is one shape of atoms , (one shape on the flower of life)and as life feed on life , we then know nature found something to take advantage of that , to eat it,in this case a virus, and it molds itself to the next level on the flower of life. as plants are eaten by animals, and animals humans.. if durvalo taught this alone , id respect him , why the need for all of the thoth milarkie? why take on a persona, i don't need all the bells and baubles myself.. here is aurthur young ,(rosicrutian) without the puffs of smoke:) putting the flower of life, into the virgin curve , and then the torus that is the universe... http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=the+virgin+birth & emb=0#q=the% 20virgin%20birth & emb=0 & start=20 this is a film about the bacteriophages.. http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch? q=the+virgin+birth & emb=0#emb=0 & q=bacteriophage so far durvalo has spoken distortidly about 2 truths , you feel them as truth and accept what he tells you, because you believe , ok he told me this so far, he must be ok. when you feel another part is a lie, you accept it. why? because he caught you earlier, when he fed you just enough candy to lead you up the garden path.. to get you up the garden path.. but like i say , its just my feminine intuition, just ignore it... love paula... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 So many side shows at the carnival -- it's easy to miss the main attraction. I, too, would like to hear the perspectives and understandings of the gentleman who has walked so much further than I and who has been so kind as to give all of us a glimpse of the path ahead. I try not to forget who it is who offers Shaktipat four times a year. I suspect the intensified interactions on the forum are normal for any spiritual community that gathers around a teacher who has achieved some degree of transcendence. The teacher tries to teach about things that can only be realized, not so much understood intellectually, and the students resist, remaining filled with and attached to their own ideas and conceptions. Myself included -- I'm not immune to ego or intellectual puffed-upness (?). One thing I'm learning from this process is how attached I can be to " being right " . We all value our own opinions so highly. And for me at least, I suspect this attachment to " being right " is one of the things that has got to go to make room for higher realizations. Love, David , " regcorleonis " <regcorleonis wrote: > > , " chrism " > <@> wrote: > > > > If I tell my thoughts and feelings about this subject now I feel it > > can only turn into another Drama. I will agree to kindly and > > politely disagree about how some of us feel about this issue. > > Hostility hurts. > > Hi everyone. Sorry, but i am feeling a bit uncomfortable about chrism > not being able to say what needs to be said or what could be said due > to possible fallout. Given recent history of this list, his position is > completely understandable. But this is an unintended consequence which > is not cool for me. Just wanted to say that. And i hope we can all > conduct the group in a way that does not cause this kind of hesitation > in future. > > Love > Reg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Beautifully said David! Imo an important step is to realize that we are not always right and to be open to other thoughts, opinions and teachings. If we all always agree and believe we are right - how much would we grow? Sarita , "djgottlieb" <dgottlieb wrote:>> So many side shows at the carnival -- it's easy to miss the main > attraction. I, too, would like to hear the perspectives and > understandings of the gentleman who has walked so much further than I > and who has been so kind as to give all of us a glimpse of the path > ahead. I try not to forget who it is who offers Shaktipat four times > a year.> > I suspect the intensified interactions on the forum are normal for > any spiritual community that gathers around a teacher who has > achieved some degree of transcendence. The teacher tries to teach > about things that can only be realized, not so much understood > intellectually, and the students resist, remaining filled with and > attached to their own ideas and conceptions. Myself included -- I'm > not immune to ego or intellectual puffed-upness (?).> > One thing I'm learning from this process is how attached I can be > to "being right". We all value our own opinions so highly. And for > me at least, I suspect this attachment to "being right" is one of the > things that has got to go to make room for higher realizations.> > Love,> > David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 I do not have the flower of life books, just read the first ten or so pages at the book store. I have read Serpent of Light and it does ring true to my inner sense. As with any teachings just leave what doesn't ring true to you. That does not mean we have to personally attack the man. (I am referring here to ONLY a couple of the comments made, not all of them). , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > > respect your view sharon, with loads of info available today, there is > truth mixed with lies, hes not the only one , intuit the good bits > from the bad..and search it out further.. > > for example , he talks about how you can use the flower of life to > cure but hes not allowed to talk about how to do this, others do talk > about it ..why isnt he?? > the flower of life contain the plationc solids the building blocks of > life, they fit into the virgin birth curve , and through this you can > learn to cure, (rudolf steiner, everything fits into 7) > for example , a person is struck down with flesh eating bacteria, > and here in the west we can't cure it, but in georgia russia they can > using bacterphages, from sewage!! they cure it through nature , how? > well the bacteria is one shape of atoms , (one shape on the flower of > life)and as life feed on life , we then know nature found something to > take advantage of that , to eat it,in this case a virus, and it molds > itself to the next level on the flower of life. as plants are eaten by > animals, and animals humans.. > > if durvalo taught this alone , id respect him , why the need for all > of the thoth milarkie? why take on a persona, i don't need all the > bells and baubles myself.. > here is aurthur young ,(rosicrutian) without the puffs of smoke:) > putting the flower of life, into the virgin curve , and then the torus > that is the universe... > > http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=the+virgin+birth & emb=0#q=the% > 20virgin%20birth & emb=0 & start=20 > > this is a film about the bacteriophages.. > http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch? > q=the+virgin+birth & emb=0#emb=0 & q=bacteriophage > > so far durvalo has spoken distortidly about 2 truths , you feel them > as truth and accept what he tells you, because you believe , ok he > told me this so far, he must be ok. when you feel another part is a > lie, you accept it. why? because he caught you earlier, when he fed > you just enough candy to lead you up the garden path.. > to get you up the garden path.. > > but like i say , its just my feminine intuition, just ignore it... > > love paula... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 then we agree, come on lets go and enjoy the carnival! were waiting ,for a story from the ringmaster himself, a bit later on, quick we'll get front row seats... love paula... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 :-) , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > then we agree, > > come on lets go and enjoy the carnival! > > were waiting ,for a story from the ringmaster himself, a bit later on, > > quick we'll get front row seats... > > love paula... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 oops my links to the films for my last post got crossed here they are .. there are alot of arthur young series...tilly think you'll like him.to me the torus is the apple! how the female force moves in her rainbow of colours through the universe and us, the flower of life in motion... http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch? q=torus & emb=0#q=bacteriophage & emb=0 http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch?q=torus & emb=0#q=arthur%20young% 20virgin & emb=0 & start=0 paula... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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