Guest guest Posted August 24, 2008 Report Share Posted August 24, 2008 I am a projectionist then. I am wrong and mistaken. I apologize and ask for your forgiveness. You are right. Drunvalo and Thoth are really neat folks and everything they say or write is the absolute truth for everyone. Vortexes are " everything " Paula says they are. The Earth has Kundalini and chakras and everything that humans have. I submit to your perceptions. - peace - chrism Kundalini-Awakening- Systems1 , " narayanhealingbeauty " <narayanhealingbeauty wrote: > > i smell a lot of projection > > just my opinion > > narayan > > > , " chrism " <@> > wrote: > > > > Earth is a creation of the divine. It carries a neg. charge and is > > feminine in nature. It is part of the duality of creation of which > > we are part and is an aspect of the polarity of what we can utilize > > to become at-one inside of the Kundalini. > > > > Sun is a creation of the divine. It carries a positive charge and is > > also part of duality. > > > > Moon is as the fire or water and has ancillary qualities that can > > influence our choices based upon evolutionary maturation within its > > presence. Not because it has been here the whole of human existence > > as has the Sun and the Earth. > > > > These all have a consciousness but it is not human or even remotely > > so any more than a human has the consciousness of an ant or a > > piranha or of space dust. Yes All are part of creation and all are > > part of divinity yet in their own paradigms do they exist. Like > > humans exist in the human paradigm. Paradigms can be communicated > > and interwoven as the Shaman cultures do. But not to the dismissal > > of the cradle of the incarnated consciousness. > > > > Earth doesn't have need chakras or Kundalini or astral projection or > > Frito's or cornflakes or television except as we as beings that are > > part of the earth use and express through these areas. We are part > > of the Earth and all of our traits are encapsulated within its > > expression. As is every other form of creation that carries the > > Earth signature part of the Earth. But as we are not the sole > > expression of the fecal matter that leaves our body neither are the > > celestial bodies a sole expression of who and how we mere humans > > are. Especially in regards to the Kundalini. They are already where > > we are trying to evolve into. > > > > I haven't read David's book. Oh excuse me.... Drunvalo Melchezadek's > > and his channeled Thoth entity's book. I have read some of his > > material: the flower of life essays 1 & 2 and I do not accept his > > theories as fact. Regardless of how he dresses them up they are not > > a fact except for him and those who follow him...and Thoth his > > entity of course. > > > > I am sure he is a nice fellow though. Don't know about Thoth. > > > > Earth and Sun and Moon and Stars, Quasars and Meteor, Asteroid, > > Comets and Gas giants, Black holes, Galaxies, Gas clouds, Star > > Clusters, Dark Matter, do not have the attributes of the human > > being. They have their own attributes that are unique to them and > > their particular creative processes. Some of it similar to us but > > different. > > > > They do not have a spine or a chakra or a left big toe. In the > > physical sense. They do not have a need to build a bridge into the > > divine as the divine has always been there for these divine > > creations. They are vehicles for those of us who must learn through > > duality a path towards at-one-ment into the divine fields. They are > > not here to ascend or to work through Karma or to fall from grace. > > They are here to support the human and every other creation that is > > supported by this great planetary and celestial system. Just as our > > evolution supports them. > > > > We project our qualities upon them like a baby whale mistakes a ship > > for its mother. Often the baby whale will die as the ship cannot > > feed it. Same with projecting our specific qualities into and upon > > celestial objects. > > > > I espouse personal responsibility without projection towards the > > outward but introspection towards the inward. I suggest taking full > > responsibility for who and how and what a person is without regard > > to star and planetary alignments. Without the need to justify > > activities, fabricated or otherwise, that mimic human energetic > > evolutionary examples. From an energetic evolutionary standpoint. > > > > Yes they are part of a great and fantastic system! A wonderful > > system and we resonate with what they give. So does water and wind > > and rain and fire give to us aswell. These are also part of us and > > work within the system that allows us to be. Yet neither do they > > have human consciousness they have their own. Fire doesn't need > > Kundalini. Water doesn't need Kundalini. Neither does the wind. > > These elements are not locked into a blind five sense conscious > > system, as we are. They are here to assist us within ours and others > > within theirs. Like teachers perhaps. Showing us through the five > > senses what it is we reflect of the qualities they espouse. > > > > I honor your beliefs in this matter you are free to have them and so > > I will not continue along this vein. I will merely agree to have our > > differences in approach and understandings as one person wears plaid > > and another wears solid clothing. It is that important to me. I will > > move on. > > > > Not everything I write will ring true for everyone. Most in the > > general population would laugh out loud! - lol. blessings all - > > chrism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " curball2002 " > > <curball2002@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Chrism, > > > > > > Hope these questions are okay... > > > > > > So how should we think of the Earth? Is it divine? Is > > even 'mother' > > > an appropriate label or does it mislead us? > > > > > > So is it here just to help us with our own changes? Or is there > > any > > > other 'agenda' for the earth, however nonhuman like it is? > > > > > > Is the earth merely a 'platform' that is helping us evolve and > > > reflects back to us what we are all thinking, experiencing and > > > manifesting? > > > > > > Can you tell us what our sun and the other planets have to do with > > > our process, and our kundalini, if anything? > > > > > > If you think this direction is going too far from what is truly > > > important, that's fine. > > > > > > Thanks for all you do Chrism, > > > > > > bradly > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 i did,nt say the earth is human ...not fair* paula .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Not addressing you in this one Sista! - blessings regardless. - chrism , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > i did,nt say the earth is human ...not fair* > paula .. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 since princess burst into flames, its ok...everything is ok :) warm vibes lol paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 I can see both sides of this discussion and at one time, maybe just months ago, I would have rushed onto Amazon Books to find anything written by Drunvalo and his alter ego 'Thoth', in order to read up on this new truth I had never heard about. My spare room hosts a library of 'truths' of which I have sworn allegiance to at one time or another, until the next 'truth' came along. Ever since my first Spinal Sweep (which I am still in awe of), I have come to realise that the real truths cannot be put down on paper for the masses to digest and smile as they feel they are another step up the ladder of enlightenment. Chrism and a few others here do their best to explain 'what really is' to us and I do not envy the task. We are like school children at different stages of our spiritual education, so as an ex teacher I know that it is sometimes better not to have lengthy discussions with a pupil but to agree with them and let them find out for themselves. As I said before I have not read anything by Drunvalo so I really should not comment on his work, but in MHO if I did buy one of his books it would soon be collection dust along with the others. K is going to save me so much money in book purchases! Blessings, Skydancer x , " chrism " <> wrote: > > I am a projectionist then. I am wrong and mistaken. I apologize and > ask for your forgiveness. You are right. Drunvalo and Thoth are > really neat folks and everything they say or write is the absolute > truth for everyone. Vortexes are " everything " Paula says they are. > The Earth has Kundalini and chakras and everything that humans have. > I submit to your perceptions. - peace - chrism > > Kundalini-Awakening- > Systems1 , " narayanhealingbeauty " > <narayanhealingbeauty@> wrote: > > > > i smell a lot of projection > > > > just my opinion > > > > narayan > > > ....I haven't read David's book. Oh excuse me.... Drunvalo > Melchezadek's > > > and his channeled Thoth entity's book. I have read some of his > > > material: the flower of life essays 1 & 2 and I do not accept his > > > theories as fact. Regardless of how he dresses them up they are > not > > > a fact except for him and those who follow him...and Thoth his.... > > > ....Earth and Sun and Moon and Stars, Quasars and Meteor, Asteroid, > > > Comets and Gas giants, Black holes, Galaxies, Gas clouds, Star > > > Clusters, Dark Matter, do not have the attributes of the human > > > being. They have their own attributes that are unique to them > and > > > their particular creative processes. Some of it similar to us > but > > > different.... > > >..... I honor your beliefs in this matter you are free to have them > and so > > > I will not continue along this vein. I will merely agree to have > our > > > differences in approach and understandings as one person wears > plaid > > > and another wears solid clothing. It is that important to me. I > will > > > move on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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