Guest guest Posted August 25, 2008 Report Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hello chrism and everyone, I am hoping someone can throw some light on these issues. 1. If a k-active person were to lose the physical body permanently (ie. die) what is the next step? ie. if you wake up dead, what do you do? Is the process of transition qualitatively different for k-active people? 2. Does the fact you were k-active on this world have any significance in the higher worlds (or whatever)? 3. Is there a " universal brotherhood " (or whatever) - here and " there " (or wherever) - of k-active people? 4. Does being k-active in any way prolong physical life or retard the ageing process, and could an awakened kundalini be what is referred to symbolically in the concepts of the elixir and philosopher's stone of the alchemists? 5. The Sufi and other strands of mystical thought believe one should strive to " die while living " . In other words, we should strive to become tangibly familiar with non-physical dimensions of existence while we are still on this world. Does the kundalini facilitate this, and how? Thank you, and please forgive the creepy questions. Reg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Hello Reg, I can give you my experiences with the dead and the visiting of the dead that I have done and still do at times. I can give you what I have been given regarding these subjects. I can offer no proof unless we both choose to die and explore the answers given there in. - lol. Not everything that I write will be provable. Some is for sure but some of the information is awaiting the validation of those willing and able to explore the energetic anatomy of it themselves. So I write this not as a way of excuse but as a way of offering what I can give of my experiences and understandings. You the reader must choose how the information feels to you and make your own determinations based upon those feelings. Please read the following separated by @@. , " regcorleonis " <regcorleonis wrote: > > Hello chrism and everyone, > > I am hoping someone can throw some light on these issues. > > 1. If a k-active person were to lose the physical body permanently > (ie. die) what is the next step? ie. if you wake up dead, what do you > do? Is the process of transition qualitatively different for k- active > people? @@ Yes there are differences. Kundalini people depending upon how far into the experience they have gone - and that is important - will often know when death is approaching and can ready themselves or make arrangements that can in many different ways influence the outcome of the death or the acceptance and actualization of the death. Life and limb do not end per se they merely change form. Death is no longer a certainty for the K active. Depending upon Karma. Kundalini doesn't mean an automatic amelioration of Karma as many belief systems suggest. But it does open the gates to the balancing of it and this does occur in great strides with the Kundalini i.e. all of the hates and fears and traumas that have been inflicted upon and by a Kundalini person will be unleashed upon them as they activate. But not in ways that destroy more so in ways that teach the understandings of what is needed to progress upon the path. Like what the " hell realms " do. Often when a Kundalini awakened individual dies the body will not decompose at the rate that an unawakened persons body would. Staying " normal " longer without the debilitations of rigormortis etc. When one journeys into the death transitions from an awakened standpoint one is still being guided by the divine bridge that has been built. This does not go away. This continues and the learning's and the teachings continue. The results of the life lived are reviewed and the corrections to be made are given and a body is prepared for those corrections to be manifested. Often in the ensuing life is the person awakened again depending on the lessons being learned. Many of these folks have very easy and profound Kundalini awakenings. The transition of death, if this is selected, is different in that one is consciously aware and able to process the experience very quickly. There is little fear and a great expectation and consummation of love that is given and received. @@ > 2. Does the fact you were k-active on this world have any > significance in the higher worlds (or whatever)? @@ Yes your understandings that have been given to you by the Kundalini experience serve to give a peaceful acceptance and knowledge base far before the actual death even occurs. Status isn't an issue as your Karma is still addressed and your balances are still to be given. Often one will not go into the areas of self inflicted tortures as with some of the Karmic teachings with the Kundalini after death. These are often already balanced in the earth life. Depending on the strength of the Awakening much will be pressed against that and how the individual has comported themselves with knowing that the " eye of love " has been gazing upon them the whole time during and after death has been partaken of. We are observed in our awakening processes. We are observed and given direct guidance's. How well we are able to follow those guidance's will have a direct effect upon the dynamic of the after life for the Kundalini Awakened person.@@ > 3. Is there a " universal brotherhood " (or whatever) - here > and " there " (or wherever) - of k-active people? > @@ Kundalini is merely the bridge into the divine fields of expression. Beyond that bridge are many souls who have crossed and yet still retain physical awareness. They are not " Brotherhoods or Sisterhoods " as duality based gender models do not apply anymore. They are groups of individuals that share a tradition or a lineage or a purpose that is not given during the physical incarnation. So yes there are groups and associations but not reminiscent of earth based five sense competitive modalities.@@ > 4. Does being k-active in any way prolong physical life or retard the > ageing process, and could an awakened kundalini be what is referred > to symbolically in the concepts of the elixir and philosopher's stone > of the alchemists? @@ Yes to all of the above questions. Kundalini can prolong physical life and indeed increase its healthful expression. It can also shorten the life as the goals are reached sooner with the Kundalini. It can retard the aging process to the degree that the person follows specific modalities of practice with the Kundalini. Merely having it awakened will not do this. Yes Kundalini is the real philosopher's stone. It is the golden glow of the halo and the divine infusion of the " Love of Creation " that flows into and through the entire human being transforming as it goes. Yes we are the chalice, the cup; our body is the vessel of the Holy Grail. We are that Grail. Kundalini is the blood royal. The sacred wine of God, the royal bloodline, the red blood of the Shakti Goddess as she infuses the " tree of life " which is also our body.@@ 5. The Sufi and other strands of mystical thought believe one should > strive to " die while living " . In other words, we should strive to > become tangibly familiar with non-physical dimensions of existence > while we are still on this world. Does the kundalini facilitate this, > and how? @@ This is what " surrender " in the Kundalini vernacular is alluding to. When we surrender to the Kundalini we " die " to our old life. Just ask anyone going through the initial stages and they will corroborate this. Yes Kundalini does facilitate an extremely increased interaction with the non -physical dimensional realities. One asspect of this is similar to what I term " split viewing " . Seeing many realties super imposed upon eachother and then making the choice in viewing which one at will or however many one chooses. When you see the denizens of these other realities they will often be able to see you by the reception of your conscious focus of intent. So the interactions are indeed increased. @@ > > Thank you, and please forgive the creepy questions. > Reg @@ Blessings Reg. - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 I have a question that fits in this subject . I remember seeing a video on the net stating that the bright light that is seen and seems you almost become after kundalini rises to the crown is the same light that you see when the body dies . Have you ever heard of this before ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 , " Chris_H " <chghes1 wrote: > > I have a question that fits in this subject . I remember seeing a > video on the net stating that the bright light that is seen and seems > you almost become after kundalini rises to the crown is the same light > that you see when the body dies . Have you ever heard of this before ? > paula in the huff!! if you guys had let me post all of my joseph campbell stuff, you would know! huh!! just joking chris , the tibetan book of the dead...and.. look at alex grey art entitled death, its showing an enlightened persons death , through the top of the head,, unenlightened leave through the lower chakras.. j.c. above describes its process well and how it relates to the kundalini... paula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2008 Report Share Posted August 26, 2008 Oh my goddd, very good questions and very good answers... wow... , " chrism " <> wrote: > > Hello Reg, > I can give you my experiences with the dead and the > visiting of the dead that I have done and still do at times. I can > give you what I have been given regarding these subjects. I can > offer no proof unless we both choose to die and explore the answers > given there in. - lol. > > Not everything that I write will be provable. Some is for sure but > some of the information is awaiting the validation of those willing > and able to explore the energetic anatomy of it themselves. So I > write this not as a way of excuse but as a way of offering what I > can give of my experiences and understandings. You the reader must > choose how the information feels to you and make your own > determinations based upon those feelings. > > Please read the following separated by @@. > > Kundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " regcorleonis " > <regcorleonis@> wrote: > > > > Hello chrism and everyone, > > > > I am hoping someone can throw some light on these issues. > > > > 1. If a k-active person were to lose the physical body permanently > > (ie. die) what is the next step? ie. if you wake up dead, what do > you > > do? Is the process of transition qualitatively different for k- > active > > people? > > @@ Yes there are differences. Kundalini people depending upon how > far into the experience they have gone - and that is important - > will often know when death is approaching and can ready themselves > or make arrangements that can in many different ways influence the > outcome of the death or the acceptance and actualization of the > death. Life and limb do not end per se they merely change form. > Death is no longer a certainty for the K active. > > Depending upon Karma. Kundalini doesn't mean an automatic > amelioration of Karma as many belief systems suggest. But it does > open the gates to the balancing of it and this does occur in great > strides with the Kundalini i.e. all of the hates and fears and > traumas that have been inflicted upon and by a Kundalini person will > be unleashed upon them as they activate. But not in ways that > destroy more so in ways that teach the understandings of what is > needed to progress upon the path. Like what the " hell realms " do. > > Often when a Kundalini awakened individual dies the body will not > decompose at the rate that an unawakened persons body would. > Staying " normal " longer without the debilitations of rigormortis etc. > > When one journeys into the death transitions from an awakened > standpoint one is still being guided by the divine bridge that has > been built. This does not go away. This continues and the learning's > and the teachings continue. The results of the life lived are > reviewed and the corrections to be made are given and a body is > prepared for those corrections to be manifested. Often in the > ensuing life is the person awakened again depending on the lessons > being learned. Many of these folks have very easy and profound > Kundalini awakenings. > > The transition of death, if this is selected, is different in that > one is consciously aware and able to process the experience very > quickly. There is little fear and a great expectation and > consummation of love that is given and received. @@ > > > 2. Does the fact you were k-active on this world have any > > significance in the higher worlds (or whatever)? > > @@ Yes your understandings that have been given to you by the > Kundalini experience serve to give a peaceful acceptance and > knowledge base far before the actual death even occurs. Status isn't > an issue as your Karma is still addressed and your balances are > still to be given. Often one will not go into the areas of self > inflicted tortures as with some of the Karmic teachings with the > Kundalini after death. These are often already balanced in the earth > life. > > Depending on the strength of the Awakening much will be pressed > against that and how the individual has comported themselves with > knowing that the " eye of love " has been gazing upon them the whole > time during and after death has been partaken of. We are observed in > our awakening processes. We are observed and given direct > guidance's. How well we are able to follow those guidance's will > have a direct effect upon the dynamic of the after life for the > Kundalini Awakened person.@@ > > > 3. Is there a " universal brotherhood " (or whatever) - here > > and " there " (or wherever) - of k-active people? > > > @@ Kundalini is merely the bridge into the divine fields of > expression. Beyond that bridge are many souls who have crossed and > yet still retain physical awareness. They are not " Brotherhoods or > Sisterhoods " as duality based gender models do not apply anymore. > They are groups of individuals that share a tradition or a lineage > or a purpose that is not given during the physical incarnation. So > yes there are groups and associations but not reminiscent of earth > based five sense competitive modalities.@@ > > > > 4. Does being k-active in any way prolong physical life or retard > the > > ageing process, and could an awakened kundalini be what is > referred > > to symbolically in the concepts of the elixir and philosopher's > stone > > of the alchemists? > > @@ Yes to all of the above questions. Kundalini can prolong physical > life and indeed increase its healthful expression. It can also > shorten the life as the goals are reached sooner with the Kundalini. > It can retard the aging process to the degree that the person > follows specific modalities of practice with the Kundalini. Merely > having it awakened will not do this. > > Yes Kundalini is the real philosopher's stone. It is the golden glow > of the halo and the divine infusion of the " Love of Creation " that > flows into and through the entire human being transforming as it > goes. Yes we are the chalice, the cup; our body is the vessel of the > Holy Grail. We are that Grail. Kundalini is the blood royal. The > sacred wine of God, the royal bloodline, the red blood of the Shakti > Goddess as she infuses the " tree of life " which is also our body.@@ > > 5. The Sufi and other strands of mystical thought believe one should > > strive to " die while living " . In other words, we should strive to > > become tangibly familiar with non-physical dimensions of existence > > while we are still on this world. Does the kundalini facilitate > this, > > and how? > > @@ This is what " surrender " in the Kundalini vernacular is alluding > to. When we surrender to the Kundalini we " die " to our old life. > Just ask anyone going through the initial stages and they will > corroborate this. > > Yes Kundalini does facilitate an extremely increased interaction > with the non -physical dimensional realities. One asspect of this is > similar to what I term " split viewing " . Seeing many realties super > imposed upon eachother and then making the choice in viewing which > one at will or however many one chooses. When you see the denizens > of these other realities they will often be able to see you by the > reception of your conscious focus of intent. So the interactions are > indeed increased. @@ > > > > Thank you, and please forgive the creepy questions. > > Reg > @@ Blessings Reg. - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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