Searching for answers - Hello Rick

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Hello Rick, here is the same response I gave to you on the OBE forum

 

Quite the rockity ride you have had Rick. I have had some similar

experiences. Certainly not exactly the same but similar. I will

suggest that you may be having some bi-location events if you are

sharing consciousness while being out and in at the same time.

Taking it out of an easily explained linear format.

 

All I can tell you really is that it is a very big aquarium. There

is much discarnate consciousness and they have interaction that

perceptive and sensitive individuals can experience as direct

contact on flesh in waking hours.

 

It would be appropriate to also suggest the Kundalini to you as this

is a route that you will most likely be partaking of from what I

read of your experiences.

 

So I will respond to the parts of your experience specifically.

 

The entities that are trying to pull you out of the body. Is it your

feeling that they want to replace you in the body?

 

As you are in communication with them, have they told you anything

of the agenda? Have you been able to discern this on your own?

 

Much of this sounds very pre-Kundalini to me as I had experiences

with these types but not with having my " self " pulled forcefully

out. I had direct in the physical encounters with them.

 

Didn't need to go OBE at all, just needed to start to meditate and I

was getting the large voltage shocks to the back. Really strong

shocks that had definite voltage characteristics. Scary stuff!

 

Didn't take too much of this for me to know something wasn't right.

 

I had direct waking contact with dark pyramid shaped, gaseous,

shadow consciousness. They would attack me in the dawn hours. Not

asleep though as the attempted incursion would awaken me and cause

me to see what was sitting on me. Or near me.

 

I would shout and wave my arms through them and they move off a bit

and wait. And I would sit there and watch them waiting and then they

would move right over and attack again but with a feeling of anger

and rage. Feels like viscous or thick cobwebs.

I couldn't think of anything else to do but play some Tibetan

chants. That did it. Never saw that one again. The " shockers " have

consciousness and for me they would attack from behind. So I never

saw them but as you know feeling them isnt a problem.

 

I knew when they were coming as some part of me could feel their

presence and I would just " know " . I changed my spiritual practice. I

knew that there is a rule of valence or of frequency radiations. I

knew I had Kundalini and felt they may be after that. This was early

in the Kundalini for me. So about 13 or 14 years ago.

 

I began to use service for others as an expression of spirituality.

I was also in Hell at these times I should mention. I didn't want to

go to sleep because I would inevitably go straight to a hell zone.

Where many unfortunate activities would take place and at that time

I was floundering about what to do and where to go for help. I was

in a full on panic with no one to turn to mode. Having worked in the

medical field there was no way I would mention this to a medical

practitioner of any kind! Certainly not my family. So I was alone.

 

I should also mention that I had been able to perceive and see and

interact with discarnate entities since a very young child and they

scared the snot out of me even as a child (though some were very

nice) and I prayed and prayed for it to go away. After thirteen

years it did. During my teens I was in relative peace.

 

Anyway as I began to practice spirituality from a love based and

service based platform I began to experience a degree of control

over the Hell Zones (at least my choices in them) and of the

interdimensional daytime encounters.

 

As Claudia mentioned fear is a big deal and some of them do actually

consume the energetic frequencies of fear and do their level best to

initiate it in us in order to harvest that exudate from us.

 

Being pulled from the body will generate copious amounts of fear.

 

You already have an entity surfing and feeding upon your energetic

body Rick that much is obvious. No worries as there are ways to sour

the milk.

 

Anyway as I began to move out of a fear based response and this took

time. My interactions began to lessen. I do not get shocked anymore.

The Kundalini continued its rise and is now in a very strong

expression compared to those days gone by. Now I try to continue the

service based platform in ways that help people perhaps such as

yourself become more familiar to that energetic aspect of

themselves. The Kundalini aspect. - Anyway my story as it pertains

to yours in the quick and dirty form. - blessings to you Rick -

chrism

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Thank you all for the responses and insight! I'm happy to say I had my first

night of good

deep sleep in a few days. It wasn't without incident though. Since I hadn't

read any

responses at that point, I tried something very simple.

 

The last few nights, the entity that I was encountering looked like a ball of

green energy.

it kind of floated over me, and since my eyes are always open I was able to get

a good

look at it. It is different from the faceless shadow that I've encountered in

the past. Not

as strong or ominous. I'll start a different thread to describe my different

encounters.

 

So in the past few nights after waking from the encounters, I would still see

the entity

hovering above me. I would stay calm go through a few prayers, and let it know

that I

wasn't afraid and it couldn't hurt me. I'm a bit of an alpha male and I always

stand my

ground both in real life, and in my OBE experiences.

 

So I decided what I would do is sleep with a small flashlight in my hands. I

wanted to

shine a light on my visitor to get an even better look. During this state of

OBE I can still

move my feet, fingers, and eyes, as well as talk. Surprisingly, I fell asleep.

 

I ended up quickly falling into a dream and not realizing it. Maybe it was from

the lack of

sleep the last few nights, but I just didn't recognize I was dreaming. I went

along for the

ride and was walking around some campground and then into a cabin. When I shut

the

door something grabbed me from behind and everything went dark and we started

falling.

 

I realized at that moment that my visitor had caught me in a dream. i started

yelling " no! "

and tried to free my arms but it was no use. Then I suddenly came out of my

dream into

my usual OBE state and I saw the entity over me. So I turned the flashlight on

right

towards the entity and I instantly was free of the entity and of the OBE.

 

I started to laugh. I thought, " That's it? It's just afraid of a little

light? " I said " problem

solved. " I turned a lamp on by my bed and went right back to sleep without any

more

disturbances. I thought it was kind of funny in the morning and woke up like

thinking my

once bothersome entity had lost a little of it's mojo.

 

To answer your questions Chrism, yes I have communicated with it. It finally

spoke to me

the night before. When I told it to leave me alone it responded with a very

assertive " no! "

right in my ear. So I told it to fuck off and that I wouldn't be intimidated.

That is the first

time in my twenty- six years of doing this that one of them had spoken to me.

 

The answer to the second question is yes. I do feel like it was trying to pull

me out and

either replace me, or join me. I think it tried last night in my dream when it

wrapped my

arms as it grabbed me from behind. I don't think it was successful because I

was able to

wake and use my little flashlight trick. I'll let you all know if my head

starts spinning or I

start speaking in tongues. That's a joke!

 

Hopefully this will be the last time I encounter this or any entity. I never

asked for any of

this and wouldn't mind if it never happened again. I'm sure it will continue in

some form

or another. Luckily I found this group and also have friends and family these

days who

have also experienced OBE's at different levels. Being touched while awake

seems to run

on my mother's side of the family for many generations. So I think I may have

inherited

this in some form or another.

 

Am I going through Kundalini? I don't know but I really don't want to. I just

want to be

able to sleep.

 

One question for Chrism. What is this Hell zone you you mentioned?