Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 True enough it isn't mentioned as much as it should be and I thank you Bruce for the observation. We are a diverse group with many people in different grades of the infusion. Sometimes the thought of working with the Shadow can drive one into terror. But it is perhaps the explanation that can help in these areas. I call them fear tests. But that can seem to have an origin of an exogenous source and that isn't necessarily so. So here and now is a bit on working with the Shadow aspects of who we are. We are good and bad at the same time. We have evil within and goodness within. They are both used as survival mechanisms in a world that is largely predatory. And yet we often distort through cultural indoctrination or societal pressures the positive qualities of the darkness and of the light. Also the negative properties of both. Remember we are here in duality. We own most of our fears if not all of them. We own them and we nurture them through out our lives. Our fears are supported by our society and by our families. We water them with dreams and harvest them with physical expression. As I was in Hell and experiencing many of the most vicious experiences being conducted upon my family and my self I began to realize that all of these experiences were not going to change my basic moral understandings. After that things began to become a bit boring. Tortures here and there of my mother and sister. I knew that these were mere aspects that were being shown to me to bring me to certain ways of thinking. I learned to step out of fear and into understanding no matter what was shown. So I started to do the reversals. In my way this is accepting and taking responsibility for the darkness in your self. Then changing it as it suits your new understandings. This is merely my way, there are as many other ways as there are people walking this experience. Bruce has his way. Whatever your way is or becomes do not let the " fearful " aspect distract you from knowing that you are engaging in an internal balance. This is where lucid and OOB experiences can be so helpful. Even the " faceless entities " are often merely aspects of your personal fears that you refuse to " face " . In the Tibetan ritual of the " Chod " the individual strips and lays themselves out to the mercy of the demons within and without. Willingly gives his or her body to the predators of the environment and to God. Total and complete surrender. This is what it takes. Please be advised. One can take it in steps though no need to rush into it without knowing what is involved or not conditioning through the safeties for its expression. Similar to the dismemberments given by the Kundalini one merely surrenders and " in this process " is the body renewed. Our Shadow selves are unique to us. Not all of them come from this life experience. Some can come from other life experience and this is determined by the individual soul before the current incarnation. So as you dream and are attacked, surrender to it. Walk into it. Let the giant snake eat you, Run into her mouth, and do pull ups on her fangs!. Be a wiling participant. Let the giant spider eat you. Let these fears be faced and from doing so one can then become changed and begin to play in the water like a seal! A la Bruce! - blessings all - chrism , " bruce_oom " <bruce_oom wrote: > > Hi all..Just some comments on the entities in dreams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Nice overview chrism Your comment about facing these aspects really resonated with a dream I had. I've had dreams where I will be running for some reason, sometimes away from something specific, and I find that I move slower and slower. Every time I have become frustrated beyond belief and no resolution came out. However, recently I had a dream where I was passing people outside of a bar and one was a person with which I've had issue with. I sort of recognized him and suddenly I couldn't move very well again. I turned to my left and realized that person wasn't actually the one I knew, then I flipped around backwards and saw the right person. Suddenly I could move fast again (but backwards I made some comment then zoomed off! Anyway, I believe the lesson for me was to turn and face whatever is troubling me instead of pretending it is not there or whatever silly thing I'm used to doing. -Gabriel , " chrism " <> wrote: > > True enough it isn't mentioned as much as it should be and I thank > you Bruce for the observation. > > We are a diverse group with many people in different grades of the > infusion. Sometimes the thought of working with the Shadow can drive > one into terror. But it is perhaps the explanation that can help in > these areas. I call them fear tests. But that can seem to have an > origin of an exogenous source and that isn't necessarily so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hio Chrism, thanks, a nice overview. I found being eaten by the monsters very useful...ha..I lost count of my deaths.. They allowed movement and often the final step of surrender. I would often relive dreams intentionally dying...!! Interesting, that in the Matrix movies, Neo finally gives up the fight with his shadow (Agent Smith) and surrenders, is consumed by Smith, and then Neo re-emerges having integrated Smith into his being. The turn around happens when the fight stops and surrender is allowed (and you become Darth Vader for a just a very short while).. If anyone is interested in working furthur with shadow, I highly recccomend the 3-2-1 Shadow Process on the ILP kit (from www.myilp.com) based on Ken Wilbers work...I used it hundreds of times.. love Bruce > So as you dream and are attacked, surrender to it. Walk into it. Let > the giant snake eat you, Run into her mouth, and do pull ups on her > fangs!. Be a wiling participant. Let the giant spider eat you. Let > these fears be faced and from doing so one can then become changed > and begin to play in the water like a seal! A la Bruce! - blessings > all - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2008 Report Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hi Bruce, Is the Shadow self the same as the ego self or is it something different? If it is something different, what is the difference? Thanks, Linda , " bruce_oom " <bruce_oom wrote: > > Hio Chrism, > > thanks, a nice overview. I found being eaten by the monsters very > useful...ha..I lost count of my deaths.. They allowed movement and > often the final step of surrender. I would often relive dreams > intentionally dying...!! > > Interesting, that in the Matrix movies, Neo finally gives up the fight > with his shadow (Agent Smith) and surrenders, is consumed by Smith, > and then Neo re-emerges having integrated Smith into his being. The > turn around happens when the fight stops and surrender is allowed (and > you become Darth Vader for a just a very short while).. > > If anyone is interested in working furthur with shadow, I highly > recccomend the 3-2-1 Shadow Process on the ILP kit (from > www.myilp.com) based on Ken Wilbers work...I used it hundreds of > times.. > > > > love > Bruce > > > > So as you dream and are attacked, surrender to it. Walk into it. Let > > the giant snake eat you, Run into her mouth, and do pull ups on her > > fangs!. Be a wiling participant. Let the giant spider eat you. Let > > these fears be faced and from doing so one can then become changed > > and begin to play in the water like a seal! A la Bruce! - blessings > > all - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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