k and holy spirit

[Guest guest]

I. probably like most in the group, would like the k to arise at the same time that the holy spirit descends. I have checked the other site for all comparable literature and found that the visitation of the holy spirit probably depends on grace alone. Also, the union  of Shati with Shiva seems to be the completion of the cycle and maybe the same thing. Is there anything we can do to make these things happen or is  it  just grace or does it happens during the long coarse of k in our lives? I really tried to research it but I am confused.Thanks, Jake

T

[Guest guest]

I think that K and Holy spirit are one and the same thing.

The Holy Spirit is the Shakti.

 

All you can do is practice the safeties, pray, give service , forgive and hope

that you are blessed enough to reach full awakening.

No hurry, and no short cuts can be taken.

It's a journey that cannot be rushed and should not be rushed.

 

Love elektra x x x

 

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Electra. Jake

[Guest guest]

The way I see it the Holy Spirit is part of the Godhead, a part of

the trinity and is both male and female, just as the other two parts

of the Godhead are both male and female. In a sense you can view the

Holy Spirit's baptism of fire as a gift bestowed upon all who ask,

those who have dedicated their life to Christ in the sevice to

others. Choosing to be used by God in whatever way God wills. The

Holy Spirit's fire is gifted to give the person power to live this

path they have chosen in service to others.

 

It is the Holy Spirit that woes all, to draw them back to the

Godhead. That unknown longing/empty feeling inside a person is the

Holy Spirit drawing us back to be one with the source. That is how I

understand it. All people seek to fill this empty longing inside

themselves. Some try to fix this by doing drugs, overeating,

overworking, and all other ways people have learned to try and fix

themselves, rather than excepting God's way.

 

Linda

 

, Andrew Carney

<jakecarney36 wrote:

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> I. probably like most in the group, would like the k to arise at

the same time that the holy spirit descends. I have checked the other

site for all comparable literature and found that the visitation of

the holy spirit probably depends on grace alone. Also, the union  of

Shati with Shiva seems to be the completion of the cycle and maybe

the same thing. Is there anything we can do to make these things

happen or is  it  just grace or does it happens during the long

coarse of k in our lives? I really tried to research it but I am

confused.

> Thanks, Jake

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> T

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[Guest guest]

Here's a link to a discussion forum on this topic for those who may

like to pursue it. I enjoyed posting there, and also enjoyed Philip

St. Romain's posts regarding it.

Love.

 

http://shalomplace.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum & f=4 & submit=Go

 

 

, " Linda "

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> The way I see it the Holy Spirit is part of the Godhead, a part of

> the trinity and is both male and female, just as the other two parts

> of the Godhead are both male and female.

[Guest guest]

Holy Spirit doesn't in actuality " descend " . This was an

interpretation by older cultures as a way of explanation that God

being in heaven (up there) would of course need to " descend " in

order to reach us (down here.) These are man made limitations. God

has no such limitations and neither does the Holy Spirit as it is

already inside of you at this moment. The grace of God is in all

things. It's not coming and then leaving it is an always present

force.

 

Holy Spirit and Shakti I do see as two names for the same thing. I

know scriptures do not share this opinion and I do not say this to

in any way disrespect any belief systems that any of the membership

may hold dear. No disrespect intended.

 

Holy Spirit will come to you the same way that Shakti does. Yes some

people have crown activations that do not last like a full Kundalini

awakening. These give people certain mystical exeriences and

spiritual insights about God and unity and the perfection of the All

that IS. In this way can a version of the Holy Spirit be seen as

descending. But only in a five sense limited linear sense. Holy

Spirit is all around us all of the time. Like the Shakti and Prana.

 

You Jake can begin to prepare your self for what the ancients called

the Great Work. Turning the body into a temple of God and in so

doing turning the base metal of the human into the golden metal of

the human divine.

 

Like Elektra said: " Don't rush into this. "

One must purify and condition the body before the Holy Spirit will

express. One must pray and meditate and work and strive but without

an exertion of controlling the experience.

 

One must be in shape to climb the mountain. So get into that shape.

Get the right shoes, pointed in the best way or direction that you

are able to within your circumstances. You practice the safeties

diligently including the breathing and the Tibetans and that is a

stand alone activation platform.

 

In the beginning for me I did them all day long consciously and

prayed five times and day or as much as I could. I helped and

volunteered my services. I was and am non judgmental towards people

rich or poor they were treated and are treated with dignity and

respect.

 

Do the Tibetans twice a day and work up to the 21 reps. If you are

impatient and want this to happen immediately this is not the path

for you my friend.

 

Partake of the Shaktipat if you wish and be open to what this group

gives in regards to an energetic transfer - The Listpat or Sitepat -

into your optic and other multi sensorial organs of reception as

you read this site.

 

Practice daily and nightly. It's not typically instant and for you

Jake there may be other factors that you have not yet released but

will become apparent to you in the near future. Do your best to heal

old wounds. Not just by saying so but by feeling it honestly within.

No side stepping the hard ones. God knows what you need to do and so

do you. It's just the act of complete surrender and of doing the

balancing. That's where the conscious efforts can be given in full

strength. Do the reparations and the balance and the service.

 

Daily until they are balanced. You will know. You will be told.

 

Take is slow and be methodical and honest and true to what you do

when it is only you that does anything. Be clear that you are being

observed at all times and in all ways from what you think, to what

you do, to how you feel. Nothing is hidden.

 

So practice the safeties and prepare yourself. Be diligent and let

yourself become what you are here to evolve into. - blessings Jake. -

chrism

 

, Andrew Carney

<jakecarney36 wrote:

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> I. probably like most in the group, would like the k to arise at

the same time that the holy spirit descends.