Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 At 11:09 AM 9/5/2008, you wrote: No george the question should not be where the seeker is at but should be, " Where am i at " . " I am " may well be ego though is the ego of the higher self within. I have been listening to the audio version of Eckhardt Tolle's " A New Earth " and the second and third chapters have some awesome information about the ego in them. I have seen some interesting language about the ego here, and a lot of us seem to have a really hostile take on it. Sort of like the attitude we have towards money. We do everything we can to get it but we're ambivalent about its value. Then we wonder why we have no control over it (laugh). I have a kinder take on the ego. It's necessary to human survival. The ego isn't always " wrong " . Making our own ego automatically wrong is every bit as foolish as making someone else's wrong. We can't always control it - and when we think we are, that's when it's least likely to be the case. What helps is constant awareness and vigilance. As Tolle says, simply becomeing aware that your ego may be functioning in a given situation is more than 90% of us are capable of, especially when strong emotional reactions are at play. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 > I don't belive in war on the ego either > I also read an interesting book power vs force by D.Hawkin. > He believes war on anything is a mistake , resistance is > persistance, we should respect, emrace and learn all parts > of ourselves , I agree, its more about transmuting things to a higher frequency then trying to demolish, that causes inner conflict, my shadow teachings taught me that :-)) gotta love that internal struggle .....hee hee e x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 We all love a good movie. We sit and get lost in the story, enjoying the characters, the drama. When it's over, we get up and leave and go on with our lives... This is what the ego is like, in my experience. When we identify with the movie we're watching, creating the drama in our minds about what is happening and what we should do in it, and think it is our real life, we are living in the ego. That's why it is called the dream, the illusion. The real life is the one who is watching the movie, and has a life beyond the movie. Being free of the ego is being able to watch the movie and not get lost in it, but enjoy it, and still be free to live Life outside the dreaming about what our part is in the movie, and planning accordingly. The movie is its own drama, and we color it with our egos and our thought lives. Its not that we destroy the ego, its just recognizing that the reality is not the movie. The reality is the one watching the movie, who is free to play in the movie in total freedom as one would play in a lucid dream. That's my humble understanding of it. Hope it makes some sense. Words tend to complicate. Love, dhyana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 , " novalees " <dhyana wrote: > Dhyana Yes I agree the sanskrit word for it is something like viargra and it means deteachment from world afairs yet maintaining a degree of compassion. John > We all love a good movie. We sit and get lost in the story, enjoying > the characters, the drama. When it's over, we get up and leave and go > on with our lives... > > This is what the ego is like, in my experience. When we identify with > the movie we're watching, creating the drama in our minds about what > is happening and what we should do in it, and think it is our real > life, we are living in the ego. That's why it is called the dream, the > illusion. The real life is the one who is watching the movie, and has > a life beyond the movie. > > Being free of the ego is being able to watch the movie and not get > lost in it, but enjoy it, and still be free to live Life outside the > dreaming about what our part is in the movie, and planning > accordingly. The movie is its own drama, and we color it with our egos > and our thought lives. > > Its not that we destroy the ego, its just recognizing that the reality > is not the movie. The reality is the one watching the movie, who is > free to play in the movie in total freedom as one would play in a > lucid dream. > > That's my humble understanding of it. > Hope it makes some sense. > Words tend to complicate. > > Love, dhyana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Yes, compassion then lives in the " movie " , bringing the Divine into an active role in it. It helps me to understand surrender in a deeper way, too. Surrendering the ego, the attachment to the movie, allows for the Divine to manifest in the physical world. It creates the space for it. Without that the ego tends to dominate everything, and the compulsive thinking crowds out any chance of the Divine getting through. Meditation helps break free because it creates those spaces. It feels like being a free agent that God can use to do anything He wants in the " movie " . Adding all kinds of new things in the Now, which is like writing on a fresh page. All imho, lol! Love, dhyana , " johndplumber " <jaganatha wrote: > > , " novalees " > <dhyana@> wrote: > > > Dhyana > Yes I agree the sanskrit word for it is something like viargra and it > means deteachment from world afairs yet maintaining a degree of > compassion. > John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 I find that the reason I call God a He is because Love goes deeper between opposites...the two becoming one, etc...since I'm in a woman's body. lol! Gotta go get ready for work. Love to all, dhyana , " novalees " <dhyana wrote: > > > Yes, compassion then lives in the " movie " , bringing the Divine into an > active role in it. > > It helps me to understand surrender in a deeper way, too. Surrendering > the ego, the attachment to the movie, allows for the Divine to > manifest in the physical world. It creates the space for it. Without > that the ego tends to dominate everything, and the compulsive thinking > crowds out any chance of the Divine getting through. > > Meditation helps break free because it creates those spaces. > > It feels like being a free agent that God can use to do anything He > wants in the " movie " . Adding all kinds of new things in the Now, which > is like writing on a fresh page. > > All imho, lol! > Love, dhyana > > , " johndplumber " > <jaganatha@> wrote: > > > > , " novalees " > > <dhyana@> wrote: > > > > > Dhyana > > Yes I agree the sanskrit word for it is something like viargra and it > > means deteachment from world afairs yet maintaining a degree of > > compassion. > > John > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Dhyana, not many understand the real meaning of compassion it is your gift as it is mine as it belongs to so many in this group. , " novalees " <dhyana wrote: > > > Yes, compassion then lives in the " movie " , bringing the Divine into an > active role in it. > > It helps me to understand surrender in a deeper way, too. Surrendering > the ego, the attachment to the movie, allows for the Divine to > manifest in the physical world. It creates the space for it. Without > that the ego tends to dominate everything, and the compulsive thinking > crowds out any chance of the Divine getting through. > > Meditation helps break free because it creates those spaces. > > It feels like being a free agent that God can use to do anything He > wants in the " movie " . Adding all kinds of new things in the Now, which > is like writing on a fresh page. > > All imho, lol! > Love, dhyana > > , " johndplumber " > <jaganatha@> wrote: > > > > , " novalees " > > <dhyana@> wrote: > > > > > Dhyana > > Yes I agree the sanskrit word for it is something like viargra and it > > means deteachment from world afairs yet maintaining a degree of > > compassion. > > John > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Thank you, Dhyana, for your wonderful analogy that shed much light on the concept of ego IMHO. You brought this ongoing discussion out of the clouds/ the textook/ the pulpit and back to earth for me! Thanks! Blessings & love, Claudia , " novalees " <dhyana wrote: > > We all love a good movie. We sit and get lost in the story, enjoying > the characters, the drama. When it's over, we get up and leave and go > on with our lives... > > This is what the ego is like, in my experience. When we identify with > the movie we're watching, creating the drama in our minds about what > is happening and what we should do in it, and think it is our real > life, we are living in the ego. That's why it is called the dream, the > illusion. The real life is the one who is watching the movie, and has > a life beyond the movie. > > Being free of the ego is being able to watch the movie and not get > lost in it, but enjoy it, and still be free to live Life outside the > dreaming about what our part is in the movie, and planning > accordingly. The movie is its own drama, and we color it with our egos > and our thought lives. > > Its not that we destroy the ego, its just recognizing that the reality > is not the movie. The reality is the one watching the movie, who is > free to play in the movie in total freedom as one would play in a > lucid dream. > > That's my humble understanding of it. > Hope it makes some sense. > Words tend to complicate. > > Love, dhyana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 At 11:36 AM 9/6/2008, you wrote: Its not that we destroy the ego, its just recognizing that the reality is not the movie. The reality is the one watching the movie, who is free to play in the movie in total freedom as one would play in a lucid dream. That's my humble understanding of it. Hope it makes some sense. That makes the most sense of anything posted so far ... Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 > Thank you, Dhyana, for your wonderful analogy that shed much light on the concept of ego IMHO. You brought this ongoing discussion out of the clouds/ the textook/ the pulpit and back to earth for me! Thanks! I agree with you Claudia! Very well presented Dhyana! Kind regards...Angelina , " Claudia " <newtfoodbowl wrote: > > Thank you, Dhyana, for your wonderful analogy that shed much light on > the concept of ego IMHO. You brought this ongoing discussion out of > the clouds/ the textook/ the pulpit and back to earth for me! Thanks! > > Blessings & love, > Claudia > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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