bout Ego

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If you are a beliver of god then the ego or Ek is god.

then if are a believer of the I in all then that is similarity

toward the higher self, though this I in all or this or that god is

personalised in the framework of the emotional body just the same way

as possesions are aloctaed by the personality. like this is my car,

my house my wife my daughter and son We may say such things though we

dont really have a thing we can call our own.Everthing just is, on

its own accourd supplied for our usage or sharing in a perticular

moment of time and space. when we claim and believe something is

trully mine this is only a reflection of what is perceived to be god

or the ek or the ego and it relates to the illusionary glamour of the

personality, that gives oneself the false identity of being better

than any one else .

 

This is one of the main illusions of the world that television

advertising and all other " comercial practices and institutions " rely

on to sap the energy out of the people.

George you are correct in some ways but you are still on the intrim

of duel mindedness if you was to take your argument to court you

would be found with contempt. May the Kundalini exsperience that you

have help you understand this. In the future we my find our ways to

be one pointed and see things eye to eye even in the case you might

believe in a god and I might not.

All the best

Love John

 

the only thing that is you is though your works and endevours is to

create a identifyable charactor. when you leave this planet you take

it with you and you also leave it behind if it is of some importance

to the others who stay on

, George Clifford

<georgetheclifford wrote:

>

> Hi Brandi,

> That is a good way to look at an aspect of the ego, and a way to

deal with it. Here is what I have learned through a great deal of

studies and comprehending what the ego deal is all about.

>

> Throughout ones lifetime, the ego/self has been the focus of ones

endeavors, therefore, the emotional investment in it has been

enormous. The ego is both the source and the object of striving and

is heavily imbued with sentiment as well as the whole gamut of human

feelings, failings, gains and losses, victories and tragedies. One

becomes obsessed with and enamored of this entity, its roles, and

its vicissitudes. The sheer mass of investment in this self makes

it seem too valuable to relinquish. We are anchored to it by all

the years of intimate familiarity - the hopes, the expectations, and

the dreams. One becomes attached to this " me " that is thought to be

central to the experience of life itself.

>

> In addition to this enormous lifetime investment in what we believe

to be our self, there appears on the horizon of the future the

specter of death. The awful information that this " me " is actually

fated to come to an end seems incredulous. The prospect of death as

an ending to the " me " seems unfair, bizarre, unreal, and tragic. It

makes one angry and frightened. The whole panoply of emotions that

have been lived through as a consequence of being alive now is to be

replayed, but this time, about death itself.

>

> The relinquishment of the ego self as one's central focus involves

the letting go of all these layers of attachments and vanities, and

one eventually comes face-to-face with the ego's primary function of

control to ensure continuance and survival. Therefore, the ego

clings to all its faculties because their basic purpose, to ensure

its survival, is the " reason " behind its obsession with gain,

winning, learning. alliances, and accumulation of possessions, data,

and skills. The ego has endless schemes for enhancing survival -

some gross, some obvious, others subtle and hidden.

>

> To the average person, all the foregoing seems formidable and bad

news indeed. For those who are involved in advanced spiritual work,

however, the good news becomes apparent. In actuality, the ego-self

doesn't have to die at all, life doesn't come to an end, existence

does not cease, and no horrible, tragic fate is waiting to end life

at all. Like the ego itself, the whole story is imaginary. One

does not even have to destroy the ego or even work on it. The only

simple task to be accomplished is to let go of the identification

with the ego as one's real self.

>

> With this relinquishment of identification, it actually goes right

on walking and talking, eating and laughing, and the only difference

is that like the body it becomes " that " instead of " me " or " this " .

>

> All that is necessary, then, is to let go of ownership, authorship,

and the delusion that one invented or created this self and see that

it was merely a mistake. That this is a very natural and

inevitable mistake is obvious. Everyone makes it and only a few

discover the error and are willing or able to correct it.

>

> The likelihood of correcting this error of misindentification is a

transformation that actually cannot be done without God's help. To

let go of ones seeming very core of existence appears to need great

courage and resolve. At first, the prospect seems formidable and

involves fear of loss. The fear that " I won't be me " comes up.

There is fear of the loss of security and the familiar. Familiar

means comfort, and there is the underlying phrase, " The me is

actually all I have " To let go of this familiar " me " brings up the

fear of voidness, nonexistence, or possibly the

dreaded " Nothingness " .

>

> To ease the transition of identification from self to Self, it is

helpful to know that the lesser becomes replaced by the greater, and

thus, no loss is experienced. The comfort and security that were

gleaned from clinging to ones identification with the small self is

minuscule compared to the discovery of the true Self. The Self is

much closer to the feeling of " me " . The Self is like " Me " instead

of just " me " . The little me had all kinds of failings, fears, and

suffering, and the real Me is beyond all such possibility. The

little me had to carry the burden of the fear of death, whereas the

real Me is immortal and beyond all time and space. Gratification at

the transition is complete and total. The relief that all ones

lifetimes of fears were groundless and imaginary is so enormous

that, for a period of time, it is very difficult to even function in

the world. With the reprieve from the death sentence, the wondrous

gift of Life springs

> forth now in its full splendor, unclouded by anxiety or the

pressure of time.

>

> With the cessation of time, the doors swing open to an eternity of

joy, the love of God becomes the Reality of the Presence. The

Knowingness of the Truth of all Life and Existence stands forth with

stunning Self-revelation. The wonderment of God is so all

encompassing and enormous that it surpasses all possible

imagination. To be at last truly and finally home is profound in

the totality of its completeness.

>

> The idea that man fears God then seems so ludicrous that it is a

tragic insanity. In reality, that which is the very essence of Love

dissolves all fear forever. There is also a divine comedy in the

absurdity of mankind's ignorance. At the same time, the blind

struggles and sufferings are seen as pointless and needless. Divine

Love is infinitely compassionate, that people believe in a God who

gets upset and angry at people's limitations is hard to believe. The

blind world of the ego is an endless nightmare, even its seeming

gifts are evanescent and hollow. The true destiny of man is to

realize the truth of the divinity of ones source and creator, which

is ever present within that which has been created and is the

Creator-the Self.

>

> To be content with living in the confines of the ego is a pathetic

price to pay for the measly crumbs that the ego repays for

submission and subservience to it. Its little gains and pleasures

are pitiful and only fleeting and transient.

>

> Another reason the ego is tenacious is its fear of God. This fear

is aided and abetted by the prevalent misinformation about the

nature of God and on whom, in this process of personification, all

kinds of anthropomorphic defects are projected, which distort man's

imagination about the nature of deity itself. Like a giant

Rorschach card, man's fantasies about God becomes, as Freud

correctly said, the ultimate repository of all man's fears and

delusions. Freud's limitation was that although he was correct in

stating that no such false god exists, he did no suspect that, on

the contrary, a true God does exist. Carl Jung, one of Freud's

contemporary psychoanalysts, went beyond Freud and proclaimed the

truth of man's spirit and the validity of spiritual virtues. In

these observations, we clearly see the demarcation and the limits of

reason, intellect, and rationality.

> The rational here is one needs to transcend the ego's

positionality, once this is done, the ego just becomes a friendly pet

in ones existence.

>

> George

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