Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 So George, or whoever you are, glad to see that you are feeling better. I'm watching you. For the Group's information, George had a lot of off list activity, for which apologies may be warranted. dhyana , George Clifford <georgetheclifford wrote: > > What is your question John? > George > > > > > johndplumber <jaganatha > > Saturday, September 6, 2008 6:33:00 PM > Re: The Obstacles of the Ego > > > No Sarita, though the forcefulness behind it gives me certain > impressions. Let us see if George answers my question. > John > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , " Sarita " > <sarita1969@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I saw this posted on another group a few months back. Do you happen > > know what the source of this information is? > > > > Sarita > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , George > Clifford > > <georgetheclifford@ > wrote: > > > > > > .. > > > Spirits incarnate into the Earth realm for one reason and one > reason > > alone...to raise their levels of consciousness. As Spirits > incarnated, > > humans live a life motivated by choices, activated by experiences > all > > the while ascending or descending in levels of consciousness. Each > > incarnation presents oportunities for each and every incarnated > Spirit > > to raise their levels of conciousness higher than their present > level of > > conciousness. The higher the level of consciousness the closer to > the > > perfection of All that IS and the closer to the Truth of All that > IS. > > All the Spirits incarnated are given the same starting point with > their > > first incarnation, the same chances, no one is better, or has a > better > > shot, or given better circumstances. The initial incarnation is the > > starting point, what choices are made in such incarnation will > depend on > > whether the incarnated spirit will ascend to the Heavenly realm or > > inhabit the realms that preclude > > > incarnation. It is through subjectivety that a human experience an > > illusionary existence. It is through the teachings, the religions, > and > > social interaction that a human is presented with choices, these > choices > > will either enhance or hinder the level of conciousness of such > human. > > As the human continues the present existence the level of > conciousness > > will either go up or down. The lower the level of conciousness the > > bigger the karmic propensities of such human and the likelyhood of > > reincarnating. As I said before, humans incarnate with a set level > of > > conciousness such that if the original level of consciousness is not > > maintained or transcended to a higher level the Spirit must > incarnate > > over and over again until a level of consciousness has been reached > that > > will allow the Spirit Self steadily be in an attractor field that > of the > > Celestial Realm. All Spirits originate from the Heaven Reams and > they > > are given the same oportunity to return to > > > such realm. The choices are simple, live a life that is Love > based as > > the context of All...in such forgiveness, lovingness, and > compassion are > > the dominant factors. Human exercising such simple existence will > reach > > a level of awareness that will transcend the need to depend so > > emotionally with the ego/self. As such, the awareness will lead to a > > willingness to surrender the ego/self/will to the Divine > > Father/God/Godhead (however you interpreted the Divine to be). This > > surrendering is motivated by love and only love. > > > If the condition of Love does not exist in one self it can not be > a > > condition that the self can experience in others. If the condition > of > > forgiveness does not exist in one self it can not be a condition > that > > the self can experience from or towards others. If compassion for > one > > self does not exist it can not exist towards others. In so with the > just > > said, love, forgive and be compassionate with your(self) as in > doing so > > will create an impetus in others including your conciousness level. > > > You are here, in this incarnation, to raise your level of > > conciousness, you will be in your next incarnation to raise your > level > > of conciousness and your next incarnation will be approached for the > > same reason. Incarnation after incarnation until the level of > > consciousness has been reached enough to meet the minimum allowable > to > > enter through the Heaven's gate. There are no short cuts, favors, > > pleads, special breathings, offerings, yoga movements, pain or > > sufferings, diet requirements, chantings, prayers, or Shaktipats > > required. God, or how ever you interpret the Divine to be, does not > > place a human in a situation requiring him/her to be prescribed to > the > > list of ego based falsities that I have mentioned in the previous > > sentence. > > > > > > > > > It is perception, an illusion that the ego/self creates for the > mere > > purpose of survival, an almost animal instint survival. The ego/self > > does not live in the lovingness, forgiving and compassionate > states...it > > threatens its survival. Therefore, one needs to transcend the > ego/self > > first. Simple, very very simple. Live this existence in the eternal > > present...in lovingness, forgiveness and compassion, pray to the > Divine > > God (or your preferred name for the Divine) for guidance, question > all > > and seek only the Truth. God is perfection. > > > People have definite opinions about what is Karma and the > question of > > reincarnation is a favorite area for argument. All religions, > however, > > agree that the energy body, after physical death, goes on to a fate > > determined by one's actions during the physical lifetime. > Therefore, the > > fate is determined primarily by the spiritual decisions and actions > that > > were made, with great importance given to intention, responsibility > and > > the presence of ones will. > > > One's fate, obviously, will either be for the better or for the > worse, > > depending on the choices made by the person's " free " will. It is > more > > important to understand the factors that determine the fate of the > > soul/energy body and its destiny after physical " death " . One's > ultimate > > fate is the automatic and impersonal consequence of the choices one > were > > presented with and the decisions made with the choices.. One's fate > > after physical " death " is merely the inevitable, consequence of > one's > > own choice and not a reward or a punishment meted out arbitrarily by > > some external figure, energy or power. This is the absolute justice > of > > God that guarantees absolute fairness and impartiality. Judgment is > > therefore merely a semantic invention that serves as an explanation > from > > the presumption of the human mind, the ego. > > > One's spiritual destiny is sealed and determined by one's own > hand and > > its actions, each person, with absolute fairness, determines their > own > > fate. Thus, God's justice is indeed perfectly self fulfilling. > Mankind > > then needs to take responsibility for its own fate and stop blaming > God, > > who has been much maligned. In reality, the Love of God, like the > sun, > > shines equally on all. > > > > > > There are some who hears and then there are some who will listen. > > > > > > Examination of the mind structure shows that its function is > > comparable to the hardware of a computer, and its software > represents > > the programming society as well as by one's own inherited > influences. > > The fundamental innocence of mankind is based on the reality that > the > > human mind is incapable of discerning truth from falsehood. It has > no > > innate defense against utilization of its hardware to play any > > introduced software program without prior approval, discernment, or > > options of one's own will. > > > Due to the nature of the software and the underlying hardware this > > indicates a degree of impairment of the capacity of recognition of > > Reality by substitution of perception, distortion and the > > misidentification of appearance with essence. Also, of great > interest is > > that every single action, feeling, or thought registers permanently > > beyond time and space in the all-encompassing contextual field of > > consciousness. Therefore, any event whether a thought, feeling or > action > > is forever identifiable. > > > > > > The fields of consciousness consist of energy vibration whose > patterns > > leave a distinguishable track and are experienced as one's own > life. Out > > of the patterning of the vibrational track arises the forms > inherent in > > Karmic consequences of acts of one's own will. Naively, personal > > consciousness identifies the self, with the body, the ego/mind, and > the > > emotions. Then, by good fortune or as a result of Karmic " merit " , > the > > spiritual truth is heard and becomes inspirational. > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as " death " . Existence is like a recycling > of > > the Spirit Self from one incarnation to another. The Spirit leaves > the > > body even though the " flesh " is still " alive " . For instance, at the > > split second before an impact of a car accident which is destined to > > cause physical expiration the Spirit leaves the body. There is no > pain, > > it is all an illusion. > > > The physicality is just a vehicle for the Spirit to conduct its > > business of transcending levels of consciousness. The body is > > disposable, it was not meant for anyone to identify with it nor to > fear > > " loosing " it for it was never theirs in the first place. In the > same way > > we look at the moon from afar we don't call it " My moon " we should > look > > at our physicality and call it " the body " not " my body " . If you > owned it > > you would take it with you, you " own " your Spirit and it is > what " you " > > only take with you. > > > > > > > > > Love is a state of being. love is not an emotion. To want > something > > out of love means the love is an attachment. To love someone, truly > love > > someone it has to be unconditional, when we want something because > of > > love then it is conditional love. To love someone because what the > > person looks like, acts like, owns, knows about, or how the person > > performs sxually is not love it is a wanting, it is without a doubt > an > > attachment. When a person is in a state of love there is no > attachments, > > it is shared with no expectations of receiving, getting, obtaining, > or > > performance. When the receiving, getting, obtaining or performance > fall > > short of the expectations of the " love " that the person thought was > felt > > it looses its grip and most likely the relationship ends. It is all > ego > > based. > > > > > > The majority of experiences of being " in-love " represents the > > condition that the ego/self is experiencing. The ego/self is being > felt > > good, validated, complimented, paid attention to or gifted to. The > > ego/self feels incredible wanting to continue feeling this > condition, > > its the juice for the ego/self. Love in this level is a condition of > > being and not a state of being. Once the juice of the emotional > > attachment and the reality of what the recipient is really > experiencing > > becomes clear that's when love becomes a chaotic emotionality, and > that > > emotionality turns from a feel good emotion to a not so feel good > > emotion. This is when love is labeled as an emotion, it is not the > > actual love that is the emotion but all the attached feelings to > love. > > Love as an emotion is illusionary. > > > > > > There is no love " out there " , there is no love to find or > get...love > > is an existing state of being, love is within not without. Love > cannot > > be radiated. It is through your Higher Self that true love is first > > experienced, putting aside all physicality, sxual performances, > > compliments, expectations anything that has to do with the > > identification with the ego/self. It is in that moment when you see > a > > person in whatever form and you are compelled to look again, and > again, > > without lust. True love emerges from the Higher Self, I suggest > everyone > > have a serious conversation with their own Higher Self and see if > what > > they think they are experiencing is love or not, you might be > surprised > > in the difference between what the ego/self thinks and what the > Higher > > Self is actually experiencing. The Higher Self only knows Truth, the > > Higher Self does not know illusions. Love is nonlinear, there is no > > falsity in the nonlinear, only Truth. Perhaps that > > > certain person you are so eager to have a relationship with is not > > really the right match for you, or the person you are admiring > because > > of the physicality, potentiality in sxual performance, or already > > expressed sxual performance might also not be the right person for > you. > > Or, perhaps, next time you " utter " to anyone the words " I love you " , > > stop and really look within and feel what IS within. Perhaps > uttering > > such words is really the ego/self saying " don't leave me " , " hey, I > am > > here, don't forget me " , " I am important too " , " I want what you > have " , " I > > have something you need to know " , endless egotistical list. The > Higher > > Self only experiences Love in its truest form, it doesn't care how > good > > the intended is in bed, how hot she/he looks, how much money she/he > > makes or what kind of car it is driven. The ego/self does care if > the > > intended falls short in sxual performance, the attention is > curtailed, > > the importance is diminished, the gifts > > > stopped, the phone calls are not as frequent, the hotness is not > so > > hot anymore, the bank account dries up, the job gets lost, or the > car > > crashes. Where does the ego/self go from there? Resentment. Then > love > > gets the blame as being painful. > > > > > > The entire perceptual illusion that the ego claims to be reality > is > > completely and totally the product of positionality. This is very > > important to unravel and understand in one's own experiential > awareness. > > If you observe carefully you will note that at the time the mind is > > taking a position, that position stems from choice, training, > desire, > > emotions, etc. The ego/mind is limited to perceptually created, > linear > > sequential logic, abstractions, and the use of words, concepts, and > > symbols. The matrix of the comprehension afforded by intellection is > > actually an epistemological position that relies primarily on > > definitions. Thus, it is definition itself that is the very crux of > the > > impediment. Definition is an artifice, an agree upon symbolism > displayed > > as verbal or auditory syntax so that it will have a communicable, > > specific and limited meaning. Language is as useful as it is > precise. > > > To define, we have to deal in abstract categories of thought. We > > specify class, genus, and species. Thus, verbalization and > languaging > > result in careful, progressive, limitation from class to genus to > > species to particular individual. Language and concepts consist of > very > > limited, distinct forms. Although this generality is easy to see, > it is > > more far reaching and subtle in its effects than can easily > described. > > At the very basis of the limitation of thinking, mind/logic is the > fact, > > as pointed out by Korzypsk, that a symbol or a word is not the same > > thing as that which is denotes (e.g. the map is not the territory). > > > > > > A speck of dust cannot be where it is positioned without air > currents, > > which require a room, which requires a building, a lot, a > continent, a > > planet, a solar system, a galaxy, a universe, and so on. All > statements > > made by the mind is subjective. There is no linear progression of > > events, sequences or causations. All shines forth as it is in its > > expression of existence. All is self-existence and therefore not > > dependent on anything outside itself. > > > > > > The ego/mind and its emotions and feelings are strong and > habitual. > > Thus, it takes more than just a good idea to " get spiritual " in > order to > > transcend them. The force of instincts and negative emotions > belongs to > > vey low levels of consciousness. When an individual has very low > level > > of consciousness, there is the experiencing of life processes, but > there > > is not yet conscious awareness of existence. Thus, a frog experinces > > frog life but it is not aware yet that it is or has existence or > > beingness. It could be said that life is not valued for its own > sake in > > low levels of consciousness, and therefore, the worth of the lives > of > > others (including the worth of their spiritual journey) for its own > sake > > either. It is only when the individual achieve higher levels of > > consciousness that true concern for the well-being, and value of the > > lives of others, including the worth and value of their spiritual > > journey really arises. In an individual with low levels > > > of consciousness, the lifestyle is self-centered. > > > So the question is " Would the overall consequences of intense > inner > > spiritual focus tend to result in detachment and noninvolvement in > the > > world? " As a general trend, that is characteristic of intense inner > > spiritual focus. As the ego's dominance of perception recedes, so > does > > the appearance of the world and the mind's interpretations. > Decisions > > are based on projected perceptions. So, the mind perceives endless > > illusions, including classifications based on judgments. Those that > are > > interpreted as " good " options are attractive to choice and > agreement. > > Those that are interpreted as " bad' options are rejected. But > really, > > what your interpreted perception of what is " good " option to you > could > > be a " bad " option for me under the exact circumstances. It is all > about > > the ego's perceptions. > > > > > > The pursuit of Enlightenment appears to be a very major decision > with > > possible major impact on ordinary lifestyles. This may seem to be a > > source of worry or anxiety when it is first heard. In due time, > > resolution occurs as a consequence of recontextualization and a > shift in > > values. What may be perceived as disruptive by the ego at a certain > > level of consciousness is not experienced as such at a much higher > > level. The Self manages the transition. Most questions about > adjustments > > or seeming sacrifices do not take into consideration the power of > > decision itself, which increases in intensity as the barriers are > > removed. Devotion dissolves fears, doubts, and hesitation and > clarifies > > uncertainty. Intention also becomes ever stronger as does trust in > God. > > Then arises the inner decision to totally abandon oneself to God. > > > Consciousness research has revealed a great deal of helpful > > information. It clarifies understanding and shifts the spiritual > > process. It is also confirmation of spiritual reality and its > > progressive experiences. The essential fundamental principles for > > spiritual endeavor are still those that are time-honored, such as > > devotion, humility, fortitude, willingness to surrender to God, and > > faith and trust in God. These are reinforced by dedication, prayer, > and > > the supplication and invocation of God's Grace (Kundalini) by an > act of > > the Spiritual Will. Although critical information about the ego and > the > > levels of consciousness facilitates transformation, confirmation > stems > > from the application of the fundamental spiritual principals > described > > above. These are empowered by intention, which results in alignment > and > > integration whereby the basic priciples become operative. Devotion > is a > > consequence of allowance by the will. Complete and total surrender > to > > > God (as you, personally interpret God to be), can eclipse the > process > > at any given point along the way. I like to clarify that when I say > God, > > it is the God I interpret God to be, be it Allah, Krishna, Brahma, > > Christ. > > > Naively, early spiritual seekers often expect that " becoming > > spiritual " will bring about a magical kind of childlike happiness by > > which they will be transported to a stress-free, heavenly condition > of > > better quality and pleasure for self and others. This is certainly > true > > if the transition is from low levels of consciousness to a higher > levels > > of consciousness that is full of integrity where the rate of > happiness > > does indeed rise very rapidly. To continue to evolve requires > > development of courage, determination, and the alignment of > priorities > > as a consequence of intention and, eventually, commitment. If > > vicissitudes along the way are understood to be normal, they will > not > > result in dismay. > > > > > > George > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Dhyana,I would like to know how do you maintain with such certainty such apology is necessary, if you don't mind, perhaps you may refresh my memory.Georgenovalees <dhyana Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 7:34:58 PM Ego George So George, or whoever you are, glad to see that you are feeling better. I'm watching you. For the Group's information, George had a lot of off list activity, for which apologies may be warranted. dhyana Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , George Clifford <georgetheclifford@ ...> wrote: > > What is your question John? > George > > > > > johndplumber <jaganatha@. ..> > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 > Saturday, September 6, 2008 6:33:00 PM > [Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] Re: The Obstacles of the Ego > > > No Sarita, though the forcefulness behind it gives me certain > impressions. Let us see if George answers my question. > John > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , "Sarita" > <sarita1969@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > I saw this posted on another group a few months back. Do you happen > > know what the source of this information is? > > > > Sarita > > > > > > Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , George > Clifford > > <georgetheclifford@ > wrote: > > > > > > .. > > > Spirits incarnate into the Earth realm for one reason and one > reason > > alone...to raise their levels of consciousness. As Spirits > incarnated, > > humans live a life motivated by choices, activated by experiences > all > > the while ascending or descending in levels of consciousness. Each > > incarnation presents oportunities for each and every incarnated > Spirit > > to raise their levels of conciousness higher than their present > level of > > conciousness. The higher the level of consciousness the closer to > the > > perfection of All that IS and the closer to the Truth of All that > IS. > > All the Spirits incarnated are given the same starting point with > their > > first incarnation, the same chances, no one is better, or has a > better > > shot, or given better circumstances. The initial incarnation is the > > starting point, what choices are made in such incarnation will > depend on > > whether the incarnated spirit will ascend to the Heavenly realm or > > inhabit the realms that preclude > > > incarnation. It is through subjectivety that a human experience an > > illusionary existence. It is through the teachings, the religions, > and > > social interaction that a human is presented with choices, these > choices > > will either enhance or hinder the level of conciousness of such > human. > > As the human continues the present existence the level of > conciousness > > will either go up or down. The lower the level of conciousness the > > bigger the karmic propensities of such human and the likelyhood of > > reincarnating. As I said before, humans incarnate with a set level > of > > conciousness such that if the original level of consciousness is not > > maintained or transcended to a higher level the Spirit must > incarnate > > over and over again until a level of consciousness has been reached > that > > will allow the Spirit Self steadily be in an attractor field that > of the > > Celestial Realm. All Spirits originate from the Heaven Reams and > they > > are given the same oportunity to return to > > > such realm. The choices are simple, live a life that is Love > based as > > the context of All...in such forgiveness, lovingness, and > compassion are > > the dominant factors. Human exercising such simple existence will > reach > > a level of awareness that will transcend the need to depend so > > emotionally with the ego/self. As such, the awareness will lead to a > > willingness to surrender the ego/self/will to the Divine > > Father/God/Godhead (however you interpreted the Divine to be). This > > surrendering is motivated by love and only love. > > > If the condition of Love does not exist in one self it can not be > a > > condition that the self can experience in others. If the condition > of > > forgiveness does not exist in one self it can not be a condition > that > > the self can experience from or towards others. If compassion for > one > > self does not exist it can not exist towards others. In so with the > just > > said, love, forgive and be compassionate with your(self) as in > doing so > > will create an impetus in others including your conciousness level. > > > You are here, in this incarnation, to raise your level of > > conciousness, you will be in your next incarnation to raise your > level > > of conciousness and your next incarnation will be approached for the > > same reason. Incarnation after incarnation until the level of > > consciousness has been reached enough to meet the minimum allowable > to > > enter through the Heaven's gate. There are no short cuts, favors, > > pleads, special breathings, offerings, yoga movements, pain or > > sufferings, diet requirements, chantings, prayers, or Shaktipats > > required. God, or how ever you interpret the Divine to be, does not > > place a human in a situation requiring him/her to be prescribed to > the > > list of ego based falsities that I have mentioned in the previous > > sentence. > > > > > > > > > It is perception, an illusion that the ego/self creates for the > mere > > purpose of survival, an almost animal instint survival. The ego/self > > does not live in the lovingness, forgiving and compassionate > states...it > > threatens its survival. Therefore, one needs to transcend the > ego/self > > first. Simple, very very simple. Live this existence in the eternal > > present...in lovingness, forgiveness and compassion, pray to the > Divine > > God (or your preferred name for the Divine) for guidance, question > all > > and seek only the Truth. God is perfection. > > > People have definite opinions about what is Karma and the > question of > > reincarnation is a favorite area for argument. All religions, > however, > > agree that the energy body, after physical death, goes on to a fate > > determined by one's actions during the physical lifetime. > Therefore, the > > fate is determined primarily by the spiritual decisions and actions > that > > were made, with great importance given to intention, responsibility > and > > the presence of ones will. > > > One's fate, obviously, will either be for the better or for the > worse, > > depending on the choices made by the person's "free" will. It is > more > > important to understand the factors that determine the fate of the > > soul/energy body and its destiny after physical "death". One's > ultimate > > fate is the automatic and impersonal consequence of the choices one > were > > presented with and the decisions made with the choices.. One's fate > > after physical "death" is merely the inevitable, consequence of > one's > > own choice and not a reward or a punishment meted out arbitrarily by > > some external figure, energy or power. This is the absolute justice > of > > God that guarantees absolute fairness and impartiality. Judgment is > > therefore merely a semantic invention that serves as an explanation > from > > the presumption of the human mind, the ego. > > > One's spiritual destiny is sealed and determined by one's own > hand and > > its actions, each person, with absolute fairness, determines their > own > > fate. Thus, God's justice is indeed perfectly self fulfilling. > Mankind > > then needs to take responsibility for its own fate and stop blaming > God, > > who has been much maligned. In reality, the Love of God, like the > sun, > > shines equally on all. > > > > > > There are some who hears and then there are some who will listen. > > > > > > Examination of the mind structure shows that its function is > > comparable to the hardware of a computer, and its software > represents > > the programming society as well as by one's own inherited > influences. > > The fundamental innocence of mankind is based on the reality that > the > > human mind is incapable of discerning truth from falsehood. It has > no > > innate defense against utilization of its hardware to play any > > introduced software program without prior approval, discernment, or > > options of one's own will. > > > Due to the nature of the software and the underlying hardware this > > indicates a degree of impairment of the capacity of recognition of > > Reality by substitution of perception, distortion and the > > misidentification of appearance with essence. Also, of great > interest is > > that every single action, feeling, or thought registers permanently > > beyond time and space in the all-encompassing contextual field of > > consciousness. Therefore, any event whether a thought, feeling or > action > > is forever identifiable. > > > > > > The fields of consciousness consist of energy vibration whose > patterns > > leave a distinguishable track and are experienced as one's own > life. Out > > of the patterning of the vibrational track arises the forms > inherent in > > Karmic consequences of acts of one's own will. Naively, personal > > consciousness identifies the self, with the body, the ego/mind, and > the > > emotions. Then, by good fortune or as a result of Karmic "merit", > the > > spiritual truth is heard and becomes inspirational. > > > > > > > > > There is no such thing as "death". Existence is like a recycling > of > > the Spirit Self from one incarnation to another. The Spirit leaves > the > > body even though the "flesh" is still "alive". For instance, at the > > split second before an impact of a car accident which is destined to > > cause physical expiration the Spirit leaves the body. There is no > pain, > > it is all an illusion. > > > The physicality is just a vehicle for the Spirit to conduct its > > business of transcending levels of consciousness. The body is > > disposable, it was not meant for anyone to identify with it nor to > fear > > "loosing" it for it was never theirs in the first place. In the > same way > > we look at the moon from afar we don't call it "My moon" we should > look > > at our physicality and call it "the body" not "my body". If you > owned it > > you would take it with you, you "own" your Spirit and it is > what "you" > > only take with you. > > > > > > > > > Love is a state of being. love is not an emotion. To want > something > > out of love means the love is an attachment. To love someone, truly > love > > someone it has to be unconditional, when we want something because > of > > love then it is conditional love. To love someone because what the > > person looks like, acts like, owns, knows about, or how the person > > performs sxually is not love it is a wanting, it is without a doubt > an > > attachment. When a person is in a state of love there is no > attachments, > > it is shared with no expectations of receiving, getting, obtaining, > or > > performance. When the receiving, getting, obtaining or performance > fall > > short of the expectations of the "love" that the person thought was > felt > > it looses its grip and most likely the relationship ends. It is all > ego > > based. > > > > > > The majority of experiences of being "in-love" represents the > > condition that the ego/self is experiencing. The ego/self is being > felt > > good, validated, complimented, paid attention to or gifted to. The > > ego/self feels incredible wanting to continue feeling this > condition, > > its the juice for the ego/self. Love in this level is a condition of > > being and not a state of being. Once the juice of the emotional > > attachment and the reality of what the recipient is really > experiencing > > becomes clear that's when love becomes a chaotic emotionality, and > that > > emotionality turns from a feel good emotion to a not so feel good > > emotion. This is when love is labeled as an emotion, it is not the > > actual love that is the emotion but all the attached feelings to > love. > > Love as an emotion is illusionary. > > > > > > There is no love "out there", there is no love to find or > get...love > > is an existing state of being, love is within not without. Love > cannot > > be radiated. It is through your Higher Self that true love is first > > experienced, putting aside all physicality, sxual performances, > > compliments, expectations anything that has to do with the > > identification with the ego/self. It is in that moment when you see > a > > person in whatever form and you are compelled to look again, and > again, > > without lust. True love emerges from the Higher Self, I suggest > everyone > > have a serious conversation with their own Higher Self and see if > what > > they think they are experiencing is love or not, you might be > surprised > > in the difference between what the ego/self thinks and what the > Higher > > Self is actually experiencing. The Higher Self only knows Truth, the > > Higher Self does not know illusions. Love is nonlinear, there is no > > falsity in the nonlinear, only Truth. Perhaps that > > > certain person you are so eager to have a relationship with is not > > really the right match for you, or the person you are admiring > because > > of the physicality, potentiality in sxual performance, or already > > expressed sxual performance might also not be the right person for > you. > > Or, perhaps, next time you "utter" to anyone the words "I love you", > > stop and really look within and feel what IS within. Perhaps > uttering > > such words is really the ego/self saying "don't leave me", "hey, I > am > > here, don't forget me", "I am important too", "I want what you > have", "I > > have something you need to know", endless egotistical list. The > Higher > > Self only experiences Love in its truest form, it doesn't care how > good > > the intended is in bed, how hot she/he looks, how much money she/he > > makes or what kind of car it is driven. The ego/self does care if > the > > intended falls short in sxual performance, the attention is > curtailed, > > the importance is diminished, the gifts > > > stopped, the phone calls are not as frequent, the hotness is not > so > > hot anymore, the bank account dries up, the job gets lost, or the > car > > crashes. Where does the ego/self go from there? Resentment. Then > love > > gets the blame as being painful. > > > > > > The entire perceptual illusion that the ego claims to be reality > is > > completely and totally the product of positionality. This is very > > important to unravel and understand in one's own experiential > awareness. > > If you observe carefully you will note that at the time the mind is > > taking a position, that position stems from choice, training, > desire, > > emotions, etc. The ego/mind is limited to perceptually created, > linear > > sequential logic, abstractions, and the use of words, concepts, and > > symbols. The matrix of the comprehension afforded by intellection is > > actually an epistemological position that relies primarily on > > definitions. Thus, it is definition itself that is the very crux of > the > > impediment. Definition is an artifice, an agree upon symbolism > displayed > > as verbal or auditory syntax so that it will have a communicable, > > specific and limited meaning. Language is as useful as it is > precise. > > > To define, we have to deal in abstract categories of thought. We > > specify class, genus, and species. Thus, verbalization and > languaging > > result in careful, progressive, limitation from class to genus to > > species to particular individual. Language and concepts consist of > very > > limited, distinct forms. Although this generality is easy to see, > it is > > more far reaching and subtle in its effects than can easily > described. > > At the very basis of the limitation of thinking, mind/logic is the > fact, > > as pointed out by Korzypsk, that a symbol or a word is not the same > > thing as that which is denotes (e.g. the map is not the territory). > > > > > > A speck of dust cannot be where it is positioned without air > currents, > > which require a room, which requires a building, a lot, a > continent, a > > planet, a solar system, a galaxy, a universe, and so on. All > statements > > made by the mind is subjective. There is no linear progression of > > events, sequences or causations. All shines forth as it is in its > > expression of existence. All is self-existence and therefore not > > dependent on anything outside itself. > > > > > > The ego/mind and its emotions and feelings are strong and > habitual. > > Thus, it takes more than just a good idea to "get spiritual" in > order to > > transcend them. The force of instincts and negative emotions > belongs to > > vey low levels of consciousness. When an individual has very low > level > > of consciousness, there is the experiencing of life processes, but > there > > is not yet conscious awareness of existence. Thus, a frog experinces > > frog life but it is not aware yet that it is or has existence or > > beingness. It could be said that life is not valued for its own > sake in > > low levels of consciousness, and therefore, the worth of the lives > of > > others (including the worth of their spiritual journey) for its own > sake > > either. It is only when the individual achieve higher levels of > > consciousness that true concern for the well-being, and value of the > > lives of others, including the worth and value of their spiritual > > journey really arises. In an individual with low levels > > > of consciousness, the lifestyle is self-centered. > > > So the question is "Would the overall consequences of intense > inner > > spiritual focus tend to result in detachment and noninvolvement in > the > > world?" As a general trend, that is characteristic of intense inner > > spiritual focus. As the ego's dominance of perception recedes, so > does > > the appearance of the world and the mind's interpretations. > Decisions > > are based on projected perceptions. So, the mind perceives endless > > illusions, including classifications based on judgments. Those that > are > > interpreted as "good" options are attractive to choice and > agreement. > > Those that are interpreted as "bad' options are rejected. But > really, > > what your interpreted perception of what is "good" option to you > could > > be a "bad" option for me under the exact circumstances. It is all > about > > the ego's perceptions. > > > > > > The pursuit of Enlightenment appears to be a very major decision > with > > possible major impact on ordinary lifestyles. This may seem to be a > > source of worry or anxiety when it is first heard. In due time, > > resolution occurs as a consequence of recontextualization and a > shift in > > values. What may be perceived as disruptive by the ego at a certain > > level of consciousness is not experienced as such at a much higher > > level. The Self manages the transition. Most questions about > adjustments > > or seeming sacrifices do not take into consideration the power of > > decision itself, which increases in intensity as the barriers are > > removed. Devotion dissolves fears, doubts, and hesitation and > clarifies > > uncertainty. Intention also becomes ever stronger as does trust in > God. > > Then arises the inner decision to totally abandon oneself to God. > > > Consciousness research has revealed a great deal of helpful > > information. It clarifies understanding and shifts the spiritual > > process. It is also confirmation of spiritual reality and its > > progressive experiences. The essential fundamental principles for > > spiritual endeavor are still those that are time-honored, such as > > devotion, humility, fortitude, willingness to surrender to God, and > > faith and trust in God. These are reinforced by dedication, prayer, > and > > the supplication and invocation of God's Grace (Kundalini) by an > act of > > the Spiritual Will. Although critical information about the ego and > the > > levels of consciousness facilitates transformation, confirmation > stems > > from the application of the fundamental spiritual principals > described > > above. These are empowered by intention, which results in alignment > and > > integration whereby the basic priciples become operative. Devotion > is a > > consequence of allowance by the will. Complete and total surrender > to > > > God (as you, personally interpret God to be), can eclipse the > process > > at any given point along the way. I like to clarify that when I say > God, > > it is the God I interpret God to be, be it Allah, Krishna, Brahma, > > Christ. > > > Naively, early spiritual seekers often expect that "becoming > > spiritual" will bring about a magical kind of childlike happiness by > > which they will be transported to a stress-free, heavenly condition > of > > better quality and pleasure for self and others. This is certainly > true > > if the transition is from low levels of consciousness to a higher > levels > > of consciousness that is full of integrity where the rate of > happiness > > does indeed rise very rapidly. To continue to evolve requires > > development of courage, determination, and the alignment of > priorities > > as a consequence of intention and, eventually, commitment. If > > vicissitudes along the way are understood to be normal, they will > not > > result in dismay. > > > > > > George > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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