Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 With respect and love to those that have a different point of view..... Yes there have been many ways to approach the divine union. Eating the flesh of God was a term also attributed to the ingestion of certain fungi. Mushrooms have been called the " Flesh of the Gods " . From many diverse cultures and these fungi have been used to access the astral. I do not recommend these areas. They are not needed for the activation of Kundalini and serve as temptations for those who are impatient and do not wish to commit to an internal practice of conditioning. Shamanic cultures have and do use these methods but they also have internal conditionings which they use in order to traverse into these areas and return safely and soundly with out damage to nthe mind and bodies of expression.. I have personally had the experience of helping to put back together via Kundalini the mind and psyche of individuals who have used these entheogins for the use of Kundalini exploration or even mere spiritual exploration. Their mind and psyche have been blown apart by the expereience. It is a very harsh experience for them and can last for many years. This is another way of " Storming the Gates of Heaven " Doesn't happen that way for everyone though. When it does though life takes a very different road. Green Man and the other applications of this belief system such as Pan and the deities of European Shamanism are a mixture of many influences to be sure. Not all of them used entheogins to reach for God but some of them did. It was a very different time. Casualties were not typically documented so we do not know how many people went insane or were killed due to the ingestion of these substances. In the " now " of our times we can reach for these areas and some will still use the drugs and entheogins to do so. There are still casualties. But at least there are some venues of reaching forward into these areas with out addiction or succumbing to experiences that are so strong as to wring the sanity from our minds. Here we can have our feet in both worlds. We can develop communication for guidance and condition the human system towards realization of all the dimensional expressions. Kundalini can come and be nurtured and be surrendered to without fear of going crazy or losing the grounding of contemporary life. We still need to feed the kids and drive the car and go to work. We are not (typically) the hunter gathering tribal expressions of the past in our contemporary society and our rules are a bit different. So we can approach heaven from a more disciplined and devotional interaction. An approach based in love and the understandings of the Kundalini. Kundalini is the invitation into the heavenly fields. And yet even the invitation must be approached with the acquired ability to be able to read its meanings and understand and feel its offerings. This takes time and cogent experience of being a consciousness with the awakened Kundalini. Learning to surrender and adjust the ego expressions. Learning to cope with uncontrolled internal and external changes. Learning to release and balance the desire of moving to quickly. Patience and diligence and discipline and practice. These will take you farther and in safety to any region of creation one wishes to experience. We have everything we need behind our eyes and behind our hearts. We are born to walk in this and other worlds naturally with only our five bodies of expression. If we can nurture our path and change our interactive experience using society as a learning platform we can develop the needed strengths and wisdoms to travel these areas of opportunity. With out having to start all mover again due to damage and injury from impatience. Let us make this attempt. Let us learn to approach the Kundalini from our attitudes and behavior modifications. From our practices and our devotions to be " At One " with God and creation. We have what we need with this the body of expressions and the life force that fuels these expressions. We are that which we wish to become. In this becoming is the journey. - , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > To directly experience Al-Khadir the sufis Assassins and Templars > smoked or consumed h@shish known as the > flesh of Khadir The Eternal Watcher. >The experience of the Green man has also been common in other parts of the world, the earliest form of communication > with the Son of God- using certain psych0active plants including > Pey0t@, San P@dro . and the Aya* vine of Peru. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Paula makes a good point in reminding us that the search for spiritual and divine experiences have been common to our ancestors and to all cultures of humanity. The gifts of nature have been used successfully towards this goal. We have grown away from these wisdoms in our technological society and will have to regain much of what was lost. - blessings to all - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 Chrism makes a multitude of valid points, It is in no way a short cut. You risk your life and your sanity if you were not prepared for what you would see. My drive to know other worlds was enough for me to take that risk,I had no at that time.. If I had, trust me he would have been my first and only option. I brought up these points as people think of them, and to air them brings resolve. The following film link typically shows what happens in the first meeting with the Green man,He likes to test your metal. I am very happy to be learning in bitesize chunks, I was prepared for shaktipat being a week long trip, so far lots of flames and a trip into the shadow, no worries as puts it ,quite pleasant especially the bliss afterwards! http://video.google.co.uk/videosearch? q=ayahuasca & emb=0 & aq=f#q=ayahuasca & emb=0 Love Paula x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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