hello all

September 19, 2008

I was just browsing through old posts, when I came across a paragraph from about hearing that high frequency noise that is always around, then pitching your own 'noise' above it to harmonize. Well I just tried it and it was like a giant tickle. I laughed in surprise. i think my energy just shot up there in a third harmony for a second.

Anyway, moving on, I have an 'is this K' question. for the last year or so I have lived alone, now that I am among the living again I find it so difficult to relate to people. I have been through alot, it might be partly a PTSD thing I'm not sure. But I will feel the urge to go out and connect with people and when I try, often I end up more lonely than before. I feel so disconnected from everyone. not that that's bad, I like where I am in my journey, and this is part of it, but it is odd feeling that I have no one to really connect with. Is this a K thing?

Annette

September 19, 2008

Yes this can be a Kundalini symptom. One can feel as if they do not

belong or are " different " in some ways. As you become more used to

the Kundalini your expectations for how others respond to you will

also change.

It isnt always the best thing to bring up the Kundalini I have

found. I would avoid that as it can ne felt as a huge separation

with those not experiencing it.

Remember that you are inside of changes happening within. And it may

not be " others " so much as it might be merely the way you are

feeling about the interactions. Kundalini people can have very sharp

emotions for a time. Easy tears of love and sadness and compassion

and forgiveness as well as anger and a very sharp sarcasm. Sometimes

an expectation for others to reciprocate in kind is also

expereinced. This need for others to reflect what we may be feeling

will not commonly occur.

This expected reciprocation may not always be realistic as Kundalini

raises the bar of emotional and behavioral expression beyond that

which others can give. Beyond what those not having Kundalini are

used to or able to express. So if this is the case with you merely

relax into it and partake of the social interactions that can be had

on the levels that are offered.

Kundalini is rare. So therefore the experiences and relevance of

social dynamics with the Kundalini are also rare. You will begin to

mix better as you continue to walk amongst the populations. Give

yourself time and patience and do not be put off by a lack of

understanding in others. You will find your friends and Kundalini

will guide you every step of the way! - no worries! - chrism

, Annette Allen

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> I was just browsing through old posts,

September 20, 2008

Hi Chrism, can I add to that? Sometimes being alone is just what you need.

As I progress my need to withdraw seems to grow. It was always there for

me just getting much stronger now.

I think it's a K empath thing. I am amazed at the negative energy people

carry around and throw at the nearest target. I'm new at it so I don't

really have much in place to help me deal with it. I have to allow time to

grow into it.

The old saw about husbands not listening to their wives. Well I listen and

some days it is painful. It's not directed at me, but a litany of who is

an idiot, or the fool who passed her. It is, in fact, normal conversation,

it just carries a very high negative energy charge. Normal conversation

nowadays seems imbued with who did what to who. The same with other

people, or the news. The safeties are good for this.

I had a physical reaction to a family member staying over a week or so ago

and I am just now getting past it. It was horrible. The cloud of

negativity just sapped me. I just really could not handle the intensity of

it. I lost energy like you would not believe. I felt ill actually.

On the plus side Annette, Shakti took care of me as well. I never once

have felt that from my little eden. I have all the creatures around me and

cannot possibly feel alone. I have the silliest flop eared rabbit who just

shows up when I need to smile. I have stars. I have wind in the trees. I

have all the wonderful children of the woods who know me now and seek me

out. I have wild turkeys who peck at the windows for bird seed. How can

you not smile? How can you feel alone?

Shakti went all out for me, found my wife a job early morning to late

afternoon, and me a night job. I work alone, just call my boss, haven't

actually seen him in 3 months. Use direct deposit, buy gas with the debit

card.. use the atm if I need cash. Shop at a tiny little general store,

that hires young kids who haven't learned to be so negative. They are all

very kind to the old gray-haired guy who comes in to buy OJ.

I expect this all will pass. Hard to say just a phase for a guy my age.

But I do think that's what it is, and I am so grateful for the help I have

to deal with it. She's got her eye on me I know.

Annette try to look on the plus side, so many of us wander thru without

ever taking any time to really look at ourselves, sometimes it feels like

we are not given the time to do that. You have been given a gift.

Hugs

Don

September 20, 2008

Yes Don you are correct the need for solitude can be a very healthy

need to fulfill. Kundalini is a connection to all of the fellow

mortals we live with and in fact one is never truly alone as you

give in your experiences.

Not all of us are in that position. I would say most of us are not

though if we lift a finger by altering our perspective we can

experience an aspect of it.

We do have those moments when we can be greatly assisted by having a

communication and understanding with people in our lives from family

to strangers. We are islands only some of the time behind our eyes

and hearts. Sometimes we just need to be touched and to touch

another human being. To be understood and acknowledged by another.

Kundalini in many ways is a solitary journey but not in all ways.

For those just beginning to walk this path it can be helpful to be

validated by others in addition to our own personal self so that the

isolation of being so blessed doesn't sting so hard.

When the telepathy comes and the sudden empathic resonance comes

with the public this can indeed be a good time for some privacy. I

never had such solitude and so I had to adjust to my social

surroundings. It made me a forgiving and very compassionate person.

It allowed me the opportunity to see myself in others and to know

myself through the actions and friendships and love and anger of

those around me. From job to home life to strangers.

It can be a struggle. It is a tempering that brings much challenge

to those who are not informed about what is really going on. This

tempering brings great and majestic rewards as we burn through the

dross of our previous understandings about life and its dynamics.

We burn through our expectations and impatience and hurtful

behaviors. We begin to transcend negativity by not being so attuned

to it. We learn through the life being lived inside of the Kundalini

that indeed the multiverse is a huge and startling and beautiful

terrifying, loving place. Savage in its expressions but deep and

vivid in it foundations of soul development.

We begin to " know " by feeling. Experience by knowing. Love by

opening. This is when grace walks with us as a constant companion.

From this point a new vantage of discernment and interaction with

others begins to sculpt the expressive bodies. We begin to have a

love for all creation. From our experiences of difficulty at the

beginning to a grace beyond measure we come into the dynamic of a

walking radiance of love that encompasses everything it encounters.

Our difficulties are needed. They teach us and condition us that we

may reach farther into our potentials. We do not need to inundate

ourselves with difficulty but neither do we shirk the harsh

realities in search of relief all of the time. It is needed to honor

the dualities for they will give you the path towards understandings

that surpass writings and language.

So I suggest we learn how to be with those that are different from

us and to see in them that who we are and were. To recognize and

validate that we can step inside of experiences harsh and joyful and

not get tossed or hurt by them. We have these challenges as

opportunities. And we learn from them at our own speed and in our

own good time. - my take and experiences. - chrism

, merlin

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Sometimes being alone is just what you need.

September 20, 2008

Hello Annette,

In this three year journey, I have been exactly where you are many times. I have to admit it was a scary experience, this being alone, especially having never experienced it for half a century. Then I began to realize that I was cocooning myself, enveloping myself with layers and layers of silk threads (my comforter). And it was in that cocoon that I found myself. I returned to the womb, that embryonic state of nothingness through silence, meditation, and solitude. Tuning in to that frequency that describes, and hearing that inner voice that starts as a whispered, "I AM". In that silent state you become aware of and experience the bliss. Remain in the cocoon as long as it takes, return to the cocoon when life''s terms become too harsh, when human energies frequencies are so low that they begin to vampirishly suck the life force from you. What happens when you feel you are ready to leave that cocoon is

nothing less than metamorphosis.........the butterfly, the spreading of glistening wings. i've been told mine are blue. silently glide, moving from flower to flower, tasting the sweet nectars of life. Explore the possibility that freedom means more than "nothing left to lose".

in peace and light,

Julie--- On Fri, 9/19/08, Annette Allen <cross1604 wrote:

Annette Allen <cross1604 hello all Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 11:00 PM

I was just browsing through old posts, when I came across a paragraph from about hearing that high frequency noise that is always around, then pitching your own 'noise' above it to harmonize. Well I just tried it and it was like a giant tickle. I laughed in surprise. i think my energy just shot up there in a third harmony for a second.

Anyway, moving on, I have an 'is this K' question. for the last year

September 20, 2008

I have no one to really connect with. Annette

chrism has said many times that this is a " solo journey " and truly

all journeys are yet the K journey is unique in that it is so rare.

I would venture to say that many here have never felt part of a

group, a family or society we have felt " a part " from them. At

least now I know why I had these feelings all my life. It does not

make it any easier in the day to day happenings yet knowing that I

hold a rare gift makes it tolerable to feel so alone.

Unlike so many I do not hide my k - nearly every conversation I

engage in it comes to the surface. I am learning how to share it as

needed by whoever I encounter. What I really need to learn is to

step back and let Shakti use my voice - this will come I am sure.

And I find that when I share K with others I feel soooooo good and I

know I shine. I have experienced the more my k is radiated the more

I get back. It is as if the k wants to be exposed.

I spend most of my time alone. I often crave company so I take my

little Geno - my bird - out to dine. As long as there is outdoor

seating we can enjoy the fresh air - the beauty of the wonderful

trees here in nc and low and behold people approach us to ask about

Geno and to admire his colorings and behavior. That is how I get my

social interaction fix. Often it leads to a long conversation and

interesting discoveries.

I just recently moved in with my brother and his wife. After living

alone for many years I am in a learning situation where I have to be

so much more aware of my surroundings and the feelings of others.

When alone it was anything goes for it only affected me. Now I have

to see what their needs are and how I best can fit into their life

style.

Lucky for me they are both psychologists, are open to all kinds of

modalities, know about my k path and have met chrism. I am blessed

to not have to hide my gift.

I have even explained to them about kriyas and the spinal sweep. Not

that they will see me in these states any time soon but I wanted to

makes sure I did not end up in a hospital drugged out of my mind

because my k reaches the next level.

I had been longing for community life - now I have it in a sense - I

knew that community living would issue some challenges and it has. AS

my life changes I will have to reconsider my living arrangements,

but for now I am blessed to have a place to live with fammily that

love me and who are supportive of my endeavors.

I find that when I go out to stores I talk to folks - I try to get to

know them on a more personal level, (the weather is a great opener)

when I walk down the street just a smile solicits wonderful

interactions. I will be going to a street fair today. i make the

rounds talking with everyone who will acknowledge me - I fill my

connections need bag and use this to carry me for a while.

Annette- start out slowly- just being out when you are ready may be

enough and know that you do not have to interact with others. If you

feel the need to be alone - that is what you do - if you feel the

need to connect with humans then go sit in a reatourant preferably

outside and read a book, sip a tea, smile. You will be amazed at how

people react. I have folks come up and ask me what I am reading and

I always ask of others - nothing too personal nothing too indepth

just a connection.

Sending you courage and strength to find your way...

e

September 20, 2008

Hello Annette,

I know what you mean. At one point in my life I felt like I was

standing on the sidelines and life was just going by me, like I didn't

even exist in it...like no one even saw me. It was a strange time!

After some intense spiritual experiences I found myself coming to a

complete stop, not moving, standing still...but everything else kept

going. It was like standing in the eye of a hurricane. The center was

still and peaceful, yet everything around me was hurrying and

struggling. It was hard to connect with people, its like they were on

a different channel and I didn't know how to function in this new

experience. I was very lonely.

After some time I learned to just relax in where I was each moment.

Not to compare where I was to where I thought I should be. I found

that when others were present, and not lost in their thoughts, we

connected for a moment, and it was beautiful. Animals are always

present, so the connection is always there with them. So I saw that

being present was a new " channel " . And more and more people are

beginning to tune in. What a joy to connect in this way. Nothing like

it! And the former connections pale in comparison.

Love,

dhyana

, Annette Allen

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But I will feel the urge to go out and connect with people and when

I try, often I end up more lonely than before. I feel so disconnected

from everyone. not that that's bad, I like where I am in my journey,

and this is part of it, but it is odd feeling that I have no one to

really connect with. Is this a K thing?

>

> Annette

>

September 20, 2008

Thank you everyone who responded, it helped me alot.

Just relaxing with where I am is a big part of it, i did not realize how many

expectations I was trying to live into. Just letting go and accepting where I

am led feels so much better!

I can see that my standards are much higher than they used to be. I want to

connect with the best in people, when I run into all that low vibrating energy I

want to run the other way! So I am learning to seek out the best in people in

small amounts, then retreat to my den to recharge and be alone. I really

appreciate all your support here. Thanks.

Annette

--- On Sat, 9/20/08, novalees <dhyana wrote:

novalees <dhyana

Re: hello all

Saturday, September 20, 2008, 9:47 AM