Drugs, Entheogins, etc.

[Guest guest]

These are not part of the path that is walked here. If you can

misspell them it is best if you MUST bring them up at all.

 

It is a short path for the unwary and unprepared, and lazy. Unless

you come from a culture that is in active practice of them or you

come into it without any other means or information then it is

the " Hunter S Thompson " school of exploration. Not saying it will

have detrimental effect on all but for more than a few it will.

 

Reaching for Kundalini in this way is extremely dangerous and I will

not teach it here. I have had too many people come to me shattered

beyond comprehension and in many ways beyond healing due to the

interaction of drugs recreational and or otherwise and entheogins or

otherwise known as " light bearing plants " . They are not bad. It is

the " unpreparedness " of the individual and " the attitude " with which

they partake of these plants that gives many of these outcomes.

 

No one wants to do the hard work. They want to smoke this or drink

that or eat this then sit back and achieve enlightenment. I got news

for you....

 

You may get high or have pretty visions but you are a long ways away

from what Kundalini brings. This isn't a chemical induced pleasure

party. Kundalini isn't some drug or plant or fungi that you purchase

and take and then it goes away. It " doesn't " go away. You become

inured to YOUR new life. You live with it and work with it or not

either way you pay the consequences. Kundalini isn't something you

wake up from the next morning.

 

If you wish to explore Kundalini by using entheogins and or drugs

and this includes alcohol and pharmaceuticals there are other places

to do it besides this group and I encourage you to go there. There

are some excellent Shamanic protocols to explore. But not here. We

are under the gun here. And even if we were not it isnt needed

or suggested to participate with the Kundalini or reach for it in

this way.

 

There are many paths to the top of the mountain and if that path

calls to you then your choices and consequences, happy or sad, await

you. -

[Guest guest]

-When I first began yoga classes,

I would turn up stoned and i found that I would get higher.

When I attended the third night after three weeks I went clean i got

higher than when I went stoned.

 

Later after recieving mantra initiation where as would repeat the

mantra evan during sleep I had many dreams however i tried another

smoke and i could not tolerate it, because I coud see many bad traits

in people I didnt wish to see. These where very close friends of mine

who I hardly ever see anymore. This was at least 28 years ago.

 

About three years ago during the equinox come down south to

give shakti path and he caught me offering help to someone going

though an awakening. i just went about doing my own practices in my

normal manner for those days. I exsplained that i would tune in to

hime from time to time and get high though one time it was in my car

when i told him he got a fright and sugested to me i should not do

that again. however about the 5 th of october i was staying in a

house with a few guys who where stoners and drinkers, There was a

green exstact contained in ghee which was left over from a party in

the fridge so i used it to cook up the best pasta dish you called

ever tast. I had three bowls full it was so nice and for the next

three days I could not do anything productive. yes the kundalini was

good and exstramly active though what a waste as I could not use it

in any benifitial way. For me or anyone else. As I had to compleatly

lock myself away.

John

 

 

-- In , " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> These are not part of the path that is walked here. If you can

> misspell them it is best if you MUST bring them up at all.

>

> It is a short path for the unwary and unprepared, and lazy. Unless

> you come from a culture that is in active practice of them or you

> come into it without any other means or information then it is

> the " Hunter S Thompson " school of exploration. Not saying it will

> have detrimental effect on all but for more than a few it will.

>

> Reaching for Kundalini in this way is extremely dangerous and I

will

> not teach it here. I have had too many people come to me shattered

> beyond comprehension and in many ways beyond healing due to the

> interaction of drugs recreational and or otherwise and entheogins

or

> otherwise known as " light bearing plants " . They are not bad. It is

> the " unpreparedness " of the individual and " the attitude " with

which

> they partake of these plants that gives many of these outcomes.

>

> No one wants to do the hard work. They want to smoke this or drink

> that or eat this then sit back and achieve enlightenment. I got

news

> for you....

>

> You may get high or have pretty visions but you are a long ways

away

> from what Kundalini brings. This isn't a chemical induced pleasure

> party. Kundalini isn't some drug or plant or fungi that you

purchase

> and take and then it goes away. It " doesn't " go away. You become

> inured to YOUR new life. You live with it and work with it or not

> either way you pay the consequences. Kundalini isn't something you

> wake up from the next morning.

>

> If you wish to explore Kundalini by using entheogins and or drugs

> and this includes alcohol and pharmaceuticals there are other

places

> to do it besides this group and I encourage you to go there. There

> are some excellent Shamanic protocols to explore. But not here. We

> are under the gun here. And even if we were not it isnt

needed

> or suggested to participate with the Kundalini or reach for it in

> this way.

>

> There are many paths to the top of the mountain and if that path

> calls to you then your choices and consequences, happy or sad,

await

> you. -

>