If you see Snakes or Spiders or....

[Guest guest]

Do not kill them or go into fear over them. These are merely some

forms that the Kundalini takes. Also floating orbs of blue light and

beautiful people male or female that may come to you with care and

gentleness. A loving and trustful presence like in Stephen Nesbitts

poem " Blackhole " .

 

Divine personages may also come: Krishna and Christ as well as Mary

and Buddha have been observed as well as Allah and teachers in many

forms. These individuals and animals and phenomena are not uncommon

inside of the experiences. Let them come and rejoice in their

availability. -

[Guest guest]

I was browsing old posts, and this post in particular resonated with something

that's been on my mind ever since I joined the group.

 

I had an OBE experience about 3 years ago, before I started doing meditation or

anything. That particular experience really opened my eyes. All three of them.

I wrote an email to myself right after it happened, so that I could remember the

experience in as much detail as possible, and I wanted to post the experience

here:

 

Last night, in Oakland, I had multiple out of body experiences. I couldn't fall

asleep for quite some time. I lay restless for about an hour, thinking that I

didn't know who I was, where I had come from and what I was going to be. My

identity made no sense to me, and a feeling of dissolution began to overtake my

body and I began to fall asleep.

 

When I finally did fall asleep, there was flash of copper light in the darkness

of my mind, and I heard a ringing sound. Somehow, I knew I was asleep and I had

a gut feeling that if I focused on the ringing sound, I would be able to stay

awake while dreaming. When I listened to the sound it became louder and louder.

I don't know how I knew that, but as soon as I let myself go, the sound overtook

me, and I imagined my third eye opening. It was like the blackness opened up

and my body was sucked into another state of consciousness. I 'woke' up in bed,

exactly where I had been. I tried moving my arm, and it went through the desk

next to the bed. I felt a static-y, electrical sensation where I should have

felt wood. This frightened me and I woke up into that dark copper light state I

experienced when I first fell asleep. The ringing was faint, but I could focus

on it and make it loud. When I did, the sound would consume me and I would be

transported back into the dream room. I went back and forth a few times like

this and I became less and less afraid.

 

During one of the visits, I tried moving my arm again and it went through the

wall. I experienced the same static feeling. I tried to speak and I felt that

same electricity in my mouth.

 

On another 'visit', I peered into the shadows in the corner of the room and I

began to sense that there were other things in the room with me. I remembered

something I had read in a dream book a couple months earlier. It said that if

one should encounter a monster in a dream, it should be confronted and not

feared. I reached my hand into a shadow grabbed something and pulled it out,

and when I did, there was a black snake wrapped around my hand, and it was

snapping threateningly at me, and I killed it...

 

In another visit to the room, a small golden dragon was hovering over the bed.

I pulled it out of the air and killed that too.

 

In one of the last visits to the room, I was able to 'leave my body' and I

floated in the air. I felt surrounded by the static sensation. I walked

through the dorm room door and went into the hallway. The hallway was twisted

and dark like a horrific impressionistic painting, but everything felt kinetic.

The doors in the hallway had become black portals and I knew deep inside that

these were portals to other worlds. I became extremely scared when I realized

this and I ran back into the room and 'woke' up.

 

I was able to return to the room several more times, but I never left my body

again. I was only able to lie there and listen to the ringing sound. When I

woke up, I remembered something I had read that dreams are rehearsals in life

for death. When people die, they enter a bardo state which is like a dream, and

the reason they come back to life is because they are afraid to let themselves

go, and they frantically search for a life they can enter to return to the real

world.

 

Anyway, here I am in this group, years later. I didn't know anything about

Kundalini at the time, but I feel like that experience was a sort of guidepost

along the way here.

 

In retrospect, I had just discovered J. Krishnamurti at the time, and I was

listening to a lot of his talks. He made me examine all the occult things I was

becoming interested in at the time. I was using certain practices and devouring

occult knowledge in order to advance my ego, in the hopes of becoming some sort

of super human. Listening to his words destroyed all of that, and I really

began to question myself.

 

But still, this question remains in my mind - did I do something wrong? Now

that I know about kundalini and the snake, I feel like I may have killed

something inside me.

 

Thanks for reading,

Adrian

 

 

, " chrism " <>

wrote:

>

> Do not kill them or go into fear over them. These are merely some

> forms that the Kundalini takes. Also floating orbs of blue light and

> beautiful people male or female that may come to you with care and

> gentleness. A loving and trustful presence like in Stephen Nesbitts

> poem " Blackhole " .

>

> Divine personages may also come: Krishna and Christ as well as Mary

> and Buddha have been observed as well as Allah and teachers in many

> forms. These individuals and animals and phenomena are not uncommon

> inside of the experiences. Let them come and rejoice in their

> availability. -

>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Adrian

 

I enjoyed reading your post, it was like a surreal novel. I'm really looking

forward to experiencing something of the like myself.

 

As for the killing: I'm new to this stuff, so this is definately not an " expert

opinion " or based on experience. I don't think killing that snake and dragon

symbolized killing a part of yourself, you just failed to surrender to the

kundalini at that time. You will get another chance.

 

It's strange to me that you wanted to kill that golden dragon. I think I would

like to let something beautifull like that live? Or was it threatening too?

Killing the snake I understand. There was a mention on another site that one

should love the dark/threatening creatures unconditionally in addition to

surrendering.

 

Don't worry, be happy

Aarni

 

 

, " avelaz3 " <avelaz3

wrote:

>

> I was browsing old posts, and this post in particular resonated with something

that's been on my mind ever since I joined the group.

>

> I had an OBE experience about 3 years ago, before I started doing meditation

or anything. That particular experience really opened my eyes. All three of

them. I wrote an email to myself right after it happened, so that I could

remember the experience in as much detail as possible, and I wanted to post the

experience here:

[Guest guest]

The dragon was definitely beautiful, and I remember watching it in awe for a few

moments...before grabbing it out of the air and killing it. It was a

meaningless action, and I don't understand why I did it.

 

Namaste

Adrian

 

, " spiralingsnake "

<aarni.kimmo wrote:

>

> Namaste Adrian

>

> I enjoyed reading your post, it was like a surreal novel. I'm really looking

forward to experiencing something of the like myself.

>

> As for the killing: I'm new to this stuff, so this is definately not an

" expert opinion " or based on experience. I don't think killing that snake and

dragon symbolized killing a part of yourself, you just failed to surrender to

the kundalini at that time. You will get another chance.

>

> It's strange to me that you wanted to kill that golden dragon. I think I would

like to let something beautifull like that live? Or was it threatening too?

Killing the snake I understand. There was a mention on another site that one

should love the dark/threatening creatures unconditionally in addition to

surrendering.

>

> Don't worry, be happy

> Aarni

>

>

> , " avelaz3 " <avelaz3@>

wrote:

> >

> > I was browsing old posts, and this post in particular resonated with

something that's been on my mind ever since I joined the group.

> >

> > I had an OBE experience about 3 years ago, before I started doing meditation

or anything. That particular experience really opened my eyes. All three of

them. I wrote an email to myself right after it happened, so that I could

remember the experience in as much detail as possible, and I wanted to post the

experience here:

>