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Hi everyone,

 

flipping back to the recent posts about God, if He exists, and so on,

i thought this may be useful. I have been influenced by Ken Wilbers

Integral Theory, and one of the things he does is look at

manifestation (and God) from different perspectives. I copied this

from one of the integral sites..and if you are interested, in the

myILP kit frm www.myilp.com there are meditation instructions using

these perspectives. I feel this is valuable for anyone with an active

sense of spirituality, as honoring the different perspectives can

give a nicely balanced approach to God..

 

love

Bruce

 

" We can speak about God from a 3rd-person perspective, including

theological or metaphysical descriptions, or just a simple

appreciation of the universe as the living body of God. This is often

experienced as profound awe at the entire world around us.

 

 

We can speak with God from a 2nd-person perspective, as an

authentic " I-Thou " relationship between ourselves and divinity, in

which we can commune with God as the ultimate " Thou " —or, as Martin

Buber might suggest, as the living hyphen between the I and every

Thou you have ever known. This is often experienced as bottomless,

rapturous love with the entire world around us.

 

 

We can speak as God from a 1st-person perspective, a direct

experience of Spirit in the form of mystical transcendence, personal

revelation, or luminous reverie. This is commonly felt as an

experience of the Self beyond the self, or the effortless " I AMness "

behind all our thoughts, memories, and experiences. This is often

experienced as transcendent, empty bliss as we realize we are the

entire world around us

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Julie--- On Wed, 9/24/08, bruce_oom <bruce_oom wrote:

bruce_oom <bruce_oom The God Debate Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 9:41 AM

 

 

Hi everyone,flipping back to the recent posts about God, if He exists, and so on, i thought this may be useful. I have been influenced by Ken Wilbers Integral Theory, and one of the things he does is look at manifestation (and God) from different perspectives. I copied this from one of the integral sites..and if you are interested, in the myILP kit frm www.myilp.com there are meditation instructions using these perspectives. I feel this is valuable for anyone with an active sense of spirituality, as honoring the different perspectives can give a nicely balanced approach to God.. loveBruce"We can speak about God from a 3rd-person perspective, including theological or metaphysical descriptions, or just a simple appreciation of the universe as the living body of God. This is often experienced as profound awe at the entire world around us.We can speak with God from a

2nd-person perspective, as an authentic "I-Thou" relationship between ourselves and divinity, in which we can commune with God as the ultimate "Thou"—or, as Martin Buber might suggest, as the living hyphen between the I and every Thou you have ever known. This is often experienced as bottomless, rapturous love with the entire world around us.We can speak as God from a 1st-person perspective, a direct experience of Spirit in the form of mystical transcendence, personal revelation, or luminous reverie. This is commonly felt as an experience of the Self beyond the self, or the effortless "I AMness" behind all our thoughts, memories, and experiences. This is often experienced as transcendent, empty bliss as we realize we are the entire world around us

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