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I aqsked this question in another group and was recommended I also ask

the question here as well.

 

How do you know if you are OBE'ing if you sense you are in the void or

thenothingness zone.

 

Denny

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Denny,

that space can be a horrid place to me and i have been there more

than twice. Once whilst visisting another planet and was hit by an

energy feild another time when falling of a wave another time when

after being attacked by a lion at the back of the neck, those times

may have been dreams and they all related to death. I was then

wondering what would happen if i did not wake up after a death dream.

 

However i have also exsperienced a second type was deffenently obe

and kundalini related and was when i overcome the fear related to the

body locking up with the sirens roaring aload. at this time i felt

locked and trapped in my body for quite a few hours. there was also a

presence in the room i felt was watching me. At the time i could

manipulate temperature at will i could see every chakra and colour

recite every mantra that thier petals sounded. ealier in the evening

visions would go flashing though my mind as quick as a movie film

going past a lens. All the time this presence was there and i never

ventured to leave the body. Instaed I chose to remain whitnessing

what was happening within. this was brought about by quite an

intensive saddhana where I trained myself to be able to constantly

wittness the flow of breath.

Om Namah Shivaya

 

, " Denny "

<dennynorton wrote:

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> I aqsked this question in another group and was recommended I also

ask

> the question here as well.

>

> How do you know if you are OBE'ing if you sense you are in the void

or

> thenothingness zone.

>

> Denny

>

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To me the void is a place of rest..safety, a lot like being in the

womb actually. From there you can go anywhere in a blink of an eye,

just mentally think where you would like to be, what you would like

to experience and you will be there. When that happens you will know

you are out of body. :) It may be some what hard to stay aware while

you are there, though. With practice it is possible.

 

Linda

 

, " Denny "

<dennynorton wrote:

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> I aqsked this question in another group and was recommended I also

ask

> the question here as well.

>

> How do you know if you are OBE'ing if you sense you are in the void

or

> thenothingness zone.

>

> Denny

>

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If you are processing your experience with the conscious mind, with

the " beta " brain waves, and you are in the astral or dream state

then you are having an OBE or a lucid dreaming experience. Doesn't

matter where you are in the astral or other dimensions. Your state

of consciousness or LOC " level of consciousness " is the arbiter of

your cogent experience, in my experience.

 

The void is a place that is only a void to those who do not know how

to interact in those areas. Believe me it is not as empty as it

seems as there are many forms of consciousness there. Learning to

interact and perceive is the way towards understanding.

 

Being open to the new experience and being curious as to how

consciousness is expressed in the astral will propel one forward

because as you think and feel so can it become real in those places.

Which is why it is so helpful that one becomes as fearless as

possible before spending much time there.

 

Control of thoughts and feelings will help one to navigate these

places. If one were to go to the void and initiate a thought

protocol that person could be very pleasantly surprised at how

effectively one can travel.

 

In the case of the Kundalini though let it guide you in these

places. Become cognizant of the Kundalini while you are dreaming or

having a lucid or OOB experience. This shift will give you the

information you need to do what you wish or as is called for you to

do. -

 

, " Denny "

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>I aqsked this question in another group and was recommended I also

ask the question here as well.

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Thank you all for your responses to my curious question. The 1st time I

was in the nothingness area I panicked. On the 2nd go around I decided

to let it just be and observe. Even though I could not see anything

because of the darkness I felt many presenses there. In some areas from

a distance I saw flickerings of blue light followed by bright gold

halos. I have these experiences on rare occasions not as often a I'd

like for them to happen. I am no longer fearful of this.

 

Denny

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