Am I being punished ?and the group !

[Guest guest]

I am not participating in the shaktipat and I've been really,really

tired lately and then I couldn't hear out of my left ear but it then

turned into an earache and later on into a sore troat and aches and

pains and fever.Why is it that everytime I detach myself from this man

that I've been dreaming about for more than 2 years i feel that i'm

being punished ? I either fall,hurt myself,almost bleed to death or get

the flu and to make it worse i've dreamed about him yesterday during a

nap and today at 3am.Why,oh why,is this happening to me ? I'm sick like

a dog and i really feel like all i want to do is cry !

 

love,nicole

[Guest guest]

Dear nicole,

 

I do not understand the connection you have with this man, but I sympathise with

you for the mind fu*k aspects of it :-)) (pardon my french) and I wish I could

be there for you right now to make you some soup and give you a big warm hug.

You poor sausage x x x

HUGGING U

elektra x x x

[Guest guest]

>Dear friend .its not clear as to what the issue is..but I would

suggest that you pray to God and pray pray pray and ask ask ask unless

you get some guidance. God knows best.

 

Meanwhile also if you like you may pour your heart out here and explain

to us the whole thing. Maybe you might get the guidance through any of

the members here.But in any case seek guidance from God.It will help

[Guest guest]

Then cry dear Nicole. Release the emotions and the urge. No harm

done. When you are finished perhpas a realization of your connection

to this individual will surface. Continue to release the attachment

and forgive the attachment to him. You are not being punished. You

are moving through areas of blockage and issues that are tied to

your attachment to this person. So it is a healthy idea to dissolve

these attachments.IMHO.

 

Your symptoms will ease as you go into these areas as your body will

regain its balance. It is the communication with yourself and this

individual that may be causing your ENT scenarios. So as this

communication opens up so should the symptoms be released, axpressed

and detached. - blessings Nicole and good going! - chrism

 

PS has nothing to do with the Shaktipat.

 

, " ntaroiu "

<lsirca wrote:

>

> I am not participating in the shaktipat

[Guest guest]

Well Chrism,what else can i say ? I have detached myself from this

man several times and recently on Tuesday.Everytime I detach myself

from him something bad happens to me.At first I was sure it was just

a coincidence but now i'm sure that the punishment happens for a

reason because i detached myself from him.The crying is because of

frustration. i'm burning up and i'm really sick with the flu but i

still have to care for my children because there's no one else who

would do it.I have never had two dreams in 2 days before.They were

all spaced out from once a week or 2 weeks to once a month.Never 2

days in a row.There must be a connection between my detachment and my

illness and the dreams.He told me in one of the dreams to do not be

afraid because everything will be allright while he kissed my

face.And in the other dream that i had this morning i was sitting

down on a char in the middle of the sidewalk while people were

walking by.He came to me and he kissed my face saying that he loves

me very much and he told me not to get up because these people with

cameras could see me and he wanted to protect me from them.Then he

gave me this white sealed blank envelope and he then told me that i

was going to be ok and then i woke up at 3am.The fever started

today.I had no fever yesterday.I'm really,really burning up !

 

love,nicole

 

 

, " chrism "

<> wrote:

>

> Then cry dear Nicole. Release the emotions and the urge. No harm

> done. When you are finished perhpas a realization of your

connection

> to this individual will surface. Continue to release the attachment

> and forgive the attachment to him. You are not being punished. You

> are moving through areas of blockage and issues that are tied to

> your attachment to this person. So it is a healthy idea to dissolve

> these attachments.IMHO.

>

> Your symptoms will ease as you go into these areas as your body

will

> regain its balance. It is the communication with yourself and this

> individual that may be causing your ENT scenarios. So as this

> communication opens up so should the symptoms be released,

axpressed

> and detached. - blessings Nicole and good going! - chrism

>

> PS has nothing to do with the Shaktipat.

>

> , " ntaroiu "

> <lsirca@> wrote:

> >

> > I am not participating in the shaktipat

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you Elekta ! I made some soup but it didn't help as for getting

any hugs now,i advise against it.Who wants to get my flu ? I don't want

anyone to get it.Well i'll take a cyber hug anytime,lol.I wish i knew

the connection too.All i get is this connection between detachment,bad

things happening and punishment.I pray to god every night.Do you think

he wants to hear me ?!

 

love,nicole

 

 

, Elektra Fire

<elektra.fire wrote:

>

> Dear nicole,

>

> I do not understand the connection you have with this man, but I

sympathise with you for the mind fu*k aspects of it :-)) (pardon my

french) and I wish I could be there for you right now to make you some

soup and give you a big warm hug.

> You poor sausage x x x

> HUGGING U

> elektra x x x

>

[Guest guest]

Since Paula's post is MIA s.tibu,I'll try to explain a little about

him but i can't say much because he is a real human being.The first

dream i had about him that was very significant to me,started right

before my awakening.What i mean exactly was that after i had this dream

and i woke up this dream had such impact on me that i immediately had a

spiritual awakening from the crown down.I saw him in Dec. 2006 and he

was so shocked out of this world to see me and it also included some

additional phenomena out of this world which felt like time stood

still,lol.That's all that i'm going to say even as i read the things i

wrote it feels like i said too much.I have dreamed about him

continuously once about every week to 2 weeks to a month.I tried to

stop the dreams and I thought i was succesfull about 2-3 months ago but

they started again.

 

love,nicole

 

 

 

, " s.tibu "

<s.tibu wrote:

>

>

> >Dear friend .its not clear as to what the issue is..but I would

> suggest that you pray to God and pray pray pray and ask ask ask

unless

> you get some guidance. God knows best.

>

> Meanwhile also if you like you may pour your heart out here and

explain

> to us the whole thing. Maybe you might get the guidance through any

of

> the members here.But in any case seek guidance from God.It will help

>

[Guest guest]

..I pray to god every night.Do you think

> he wants to hear me ?!

>

Hi Nicole,

 

well, it sounds lie you are having a challenging time, being sick,

caring for the kids, detachment issues, just a lot going on. I guess

its a lot for anyone to be dealing with and you are going to need all

your strength.

 

Reading your post about prayer, and wondering if God hears you,

something came to mind from my process, which if you dont mind, I would

like to share.

 

I am committed to the power of prayer and having a relationship to my

higher self, and calling on that higher self for gudiance. I realized

recently that many of my prayers were a prayer to 'a god beyond me'

or 'a god outside me' or a god that listened 'conditionally due to his

grace'. This was due to a large part from the conditioning I received

growing up in a traditional protestant Christian culture.

 

By praying in this way, I noticed I was often an imaginary child

pleading a powerful parent, and really what I was doing, by wondering

if I was heard or if God would respond, I was projecting my power onto

an imagined God and disempowering myself. The more I prayed like this

without seeing the projection, the more I stayed disempowered and the

more God didnt seem to respond. This pattern would become particularly

pronounced during times of duress and difficulty, when I felt that I

just didnt have the rescources to cope with what was arising.

 

I finally became aware of this very convincing projection, and in

essence, God was my positive shadow, the power and authority that I had

disowned. God is my deepest self and within me, and to ask if God wants

to hear me, is really the same as asking if I want to hear myself.

 

Thus understanding became clearer to me as some third chakra issues

came into awareness, which for me represented the power to embody my

ideas and desires, and the authority to act without requiring an

external authority (God) to give me the go ahead, all the while knowing

I had the support of Spirit. The key to breaking the pattern was to

first deeply accept and open to what is occurring in the present, no

matter how difficult it may seem, and the second to learn to feel the

embodiment of the power and support that i would have if God did answer

my prayers, to feel that certainty of strength. I know that is tough to

do when your world is demanding more of you than you feel you may have,

yet thats when its most important to try and do that.

 

This is not to mean that God doesnt exist, rather, he is the deepest

part of my being, transcending my seperate ego/self sense, and he

always always responds. A significant part of the journey is developing

the trust that the response is unconditional, and that we are always

supported and that trust and knowledge is radically empowering.

 

With love

Bruce

[Guest guest]

Nice post Bruce, I'm popping on and off the internet tonite, got hurricane

Kyle passing through and it raises havoc with rain fade to my sat feed. So

if this comes thru weird forgive me. Glad I have the backup power.

 

Had to comment here though, I still think I am a newcomer here, but much

of what I get from is " don't look outside yourself the answers are

within " . Shakti is there and she really knows what is best for you and you

have to let her do her work.

 

We'd all like to abdicate responsibility to a higher judge, it's an easy

way out. It's very difficult to claim ownership to all that we are.

 

I've done some pretty nasty things in my life, it would be easy to give

that up to a higher power, but that's not happening for me, I have to live

with them all.Praying does not work, there is in reality nothing to pray

to except the person we can become. They are what I am. I have to face

that. Can't give it away to any all powerful being. and say there must be

a reason. No need for a reason except for a lesson to me.

 

I see all religions as a vague attempt to explain things that are a

natural part of the world, they use different language and rites, but they

are all the same, attempting to explain something in words that really can

only be experienced. Experience for you, for me can be very different,

most days I'm pretty sure I don't share the same reality other people see.

Chuckle. I don't mind this, I'm on my way out and I look forward to it.

 

Even the language of K being here in our lore for so many years, can never

come close to the experience. If it worked properly, when I am aware I

should know without any need for language, and you all would know as well.

I give major kudos here, he does really well hitting the mark and

it is so difficult using language. My hats off to you fella.

 

That is actually where I go, the not me. I feel that is why I am drawn to

nature, it is pure, sublime and the original point of worship.

 

The doe that came to me last week was sick, I could do nothing, except

give her comfort. Recognize that she was alive. I suppose I could have

helped her into the system, the vets would have jumped on it as long as I

payed for it, all the language they would have used, all their tech and

medicine, and I would have given away her freedom. Somebody could have had

a mass for her.

 

She was content knowing that I knew her. I expect she is dead now. I guess

that was a lesson on how to be content myself. All my signs, feelings and

thoughts, are on how to exit this space. Very very powerful.

 

Peace to you all, serenity when you need it.

 

Don

[Guest guest]

Peace and serenity to you too, Don

 

> All my signs, feelings and

> thoughts, are on how to exit this space. Very very powerful.

>

> Peace to you all, serenity when you need it.

>

> Don

[Guest guest]

hi nicole

 

suffering is a natural aspect of life. we all suffer, its natural to

our condition because we are living in samsara, or the cyclical

existence of living in the delusional physical realm. which is caused

by our state of ignorance, so all these factors are causes to your

current state. there is no other reason, nobody is punishing you. that

is quite silly i think

 

you are attached to the physical body and due to that attachment you

suffer, the sickness of the physical body is natural. healthiness is

temporary, like all conditions.

 

also, your attachment to this man is a potential cause for mental

imbalance which in turn effects physical illness.

 

i think that looking at it this way is much better than thinking

someone is punishing you.

 

what do you think?

 

~mikael

 

 

 

 

 

, " ntaroiu "

<lsirca wrote:

>

> Well Chrism,what else can i say ? I have detached myself from this

> man several times and recently on Tuesday.Everytime I detach myself

> from him something bad happens to me.At first I was sure it was just

> a coincidence but now i'm sure that the punishment happens for a

> reason because i detached myself from him.The crying is because of

> frustration. i'm burning up and i'm really sick with the flu but i

> still have to care for my children because there's no one else who

> would do it.I have never had two dreams in 2 days before.They were

> all spaced out from once a week or 2 weeks to once a month.Never 2

> days in a row.There must be a connection between my detachment and my

> illness and the dreams.He told me in one of the dreams to do not be

> afraid because everything will be allright while he kissed my

> face.And in the other dream that i had this morning i was sitting

> down on a char in the middle of the sidewalk while people were

> walking by.He came to me and he kissed my face saying that he loves

> me very much and he told me not to get up because these people with

> cameras could see me and he wanted to protect me from them.Then he

> gave me this white sealed blank envelope and he then told me that i

> was going to be ok and then i woke up at 3am.The fever started

> today.I had no fever yesterday.I'm really,really burning up !

>

> love,nicole

>

>

> , " chrism "

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > Then cry dear Nicole. Release the emotions and the urge. No harm

> > done. When you are finished perhpas a realization of your

> connection

> > to this individual will surface. Continue to release the attachment

> > and forgive the attachment to him. You are not being punished. You

> > are moving through areas of blockage and issues that are tied to

> > your attachment to this person. So it is a healthy idea to dissolve

> > these attachments.IMHO.

> >

> > Your symptoms will ease as you go into these areas as your body

> will

> > regain its balance. It is the communication with yourself and this

> > individual that may be causing your ENT scenarios. So as this

> > communication opens up so should the symptoms be released,

> axpressed

> > and detached. - blessings Nicole and good going! - chrism

> >

> > PS has nothing to do with the Shaktipat.

> >

> > , " ntaroiu "

> > <lsirca@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I am not participating in the shaktipat

> >

>