Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 At 09:43 AM 10/4/2008, you wrote: Apocalypse end of the collective shadow, And yeah, i agree that an apocalyps is just the fall of a mask, or the end of something, the end of civilization as we know it. The problem is that the word " Apocalypse " has so much baggage. As a former fundamentalist, for me, that word just conjures up the scary business. And I mean scary. It's irresponsible to be teaching children the sort of things I was taught about this stuff imnsho. So I avoid the word " Apocalypse " . I do feel we are heading for transformations in the next few years, but when hasn't humanity been heading towards that? I have seen some wild ideas floating around, and a lot of them smack of fantasy wish-fulfillment to me, both positive and negative. Me, I'll settle for some real love-based leadership in my lifetime. That would be miracle enough. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 > The problem is that the word "Apocalypse" has so much baggage. As a former fundamentalist, for me, that word just conjures up the scary business. And I mean scary. Thats why I think we should re-claim it back to its intended meaning , a covering a mask a veil, thus the lifting of the veil.Taking the seals off of the chakras. It's a bit like the word swastika and it's nazi connotations but swastika really its a blessing...by reclaiming the words the fear is dispersed.. also they translated the end of the eon as the end of time, they mean different things , the end of the eon means the end of the age, the age of pieces, then the next age begins aquarius.. real love based leadership , That would be miracle enough. more than agree to that P~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 > real love based leadership , That would be miracle enough. Dream on Paula, watch the movie Endgame and you will see what we are really in store for ~ bread lines, slavery and chips instilled in everyone. Big Brother to the Max! Better do our exercises while we still can ~ Angelina , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > > > > The problem is that the word " Apocalypse " has so much baggage. As a > former fundamentalist, for me, that word just conjures up the scary > business. And I mean scary. > > Thats why I think we should re-claim it back to its intended meaning , a > covering a mask a veil, thus the lifting of the veil.Taking the seals > off of the chakras. It's a bit like the word swastika and it's nazi > connotations but swastika really its a blessing...by reclaiming the > words the fear is dispersed.. > > also they translated the end of the eon as the end of time, they mean > different things , the end of the eon means the end of the age, the age > of pieces, then the next age begins aquarius.. > > real love based leadership , That would be miracle enough. > > > more than agree to that > > P~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 I've seen them all and some.. ask yourselves this how come these guys are allowed to talk and give their message free and clear, but scientists that have made fuel from algae , or water etc, have been bumped off , murdered? you learn of one and bingo he's been done in! In the uk we have david icke , if we even stand with a camera near the queens palace without permission, we'll be in jail for terrorism before our feet hit the floor.He goes every where saying everything , why ? because hes selling you lies to keep you fearful..enough truth to believe in them.All they have is your fear, and your obedience. any earth magnet will ruin that rfid chip, but I bet everyone just keeps on obeying the master, and you will make your own slavery, by your own choice.My votes with the k. paula.. > > real love based leadership , That would be miracle enough. > > Dream on Paula, watch the movie Endgame and you will see what > we are really in store for ~ bread lines, slavery and chips > instilled in everyone. Big Brother to the Max! Better > do our exercises while we still can ~ Angelina > > , " alayafire " > <ari.reza@> wrote: > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Angelina, what makes you think that "Endgame" is reality? There are as many theories out there as blades of grass. Why adopt a negative one? I prefer to believe that whatever is coming, we will rise to the challenge and make lemonade out of any lemons. Sarita , "gypsyeyes_101" <gypsyeyes_101 wrote:>> > real love based leadership , That would be miracle enough.> > Dream on Paula, watch the movie Endgame and you will see what> we are really in store for ~ bread lines, slavery and chips> instilled in everyone. Big Brother to the Max! Better> do our exercises while we still can ~ Angelina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > I've seen them all and some.. > ask yourselves this how come these guys are allowed to talk and give > their message free and clear, but scientists that have made fuel > from algae , or water etc, have been bumped off , murdered? you > learn of one and bingo he's been done in! > > In the uk we have david icke , if we even stand with a camera near > the queens palace without permission, we'll be in jail for terrorism > before our feet hit the floor.He goes every where saying > everything , why ? > because hes selling you lies to keep you fearful..enough truth to > believe in them.All they have is your fear, and your obedience. > > any earth magnet will ruin that rfid chip, but I bet everyone just > keeps on obeying the master, and you will make your own slavery, > by your own choice.My votes with the k. > > paula.. Be the Super Ego Paula, don't just stand there and look at it. In almost all of these movies weren't the people with special powers considered the bad guys. Could you ever believe that in the future we will be the destroyers of the world? Think about that first before responding, people going through an awakening are not the majority of the norms. A life filled with K involves a closeness and respect of nature and a devotion of changing the world to a non-mechanical system. That makes us the outcasts the un-suitable for social cohabitation. Am I getting to a war of good and evil here? Think of it, back in the 60's there was a first wave of social change and revolution. Sort of started out make love not war but it was a war and there was blood shed. But look at us now we are over 30 and we are the establishment and little has changed. From my teen years in the early 60's to now I have learned a few things about governing and a most important point is that mostly people are sheep in need of a Shepard. Else wise I wouldn't have been able to form a cult so long ago. You mentioned energy products and why haven't the people that have created a better way of doing things never heard of again. Money is that answer, as when I finished hi-school and was working in a Phillips petrol station I knew this engineer from Phillips that drove an Jaguar XKD 12 cylinder that was pretty high performance because he built and designed the fuel delivery system for his auto. On the other side of this high performance auto he said it could also average well over 50 miles per gallon. The price of petrol here in the U.S. at that time was .07 to .19 cents a gallon in some places. We have an inner-dependant network on manufacturing and financial structures, change just one thing and like in the butterfly effect the whole house of cards comes falling down. Money is the milk, oil, flow of this whole system and if you stop the flow there is hell to pay. Products and toys are symbols of money in that spiraling flow of energy. And within most of the new toys, cars, cell-phones, and all smart electronics there are RFID chips. You try telling me that putting a rare earth magnet next to a RFID chip and it will disable it, not so, put one up to your cell-phone, it will still work, but doesn't a cell-phone have magnets in it already? There isn't much need to create unnecessary fear or fear based ideas to create a need for RFID all one has to do is look out their window. My sister-in-law has a RFID company http://www.satellitegpscentral.com/ and they can tag your car and tell you where it is anywhere in the world. A lot of credit cards are RFID cards. So if you want to get out of RFID get rid on the TV, the Car, credit cards, the cell-phone, all electronics that are smart and shut off all electrical power lines as they can be used by the WWW net connections. This isn't a paranoia thing, just a reality check because you are in the system, the matrix, hahaha. In a not too far distance we will go off a monitory system, to obtain anything you will have to be implanted or other things. Like right now I only see a small percentage of the money I make the large portion is electronic. When this tidal wave of awakening to K energy comes and people again revolt against the statuesque. I do have an opinion about 2012, as it is a celestial equinox, we are at a passing point in the galaxy going from one hemisphere to the other. My opinion is based on Sci-Fi and along the lines of writer Poul William Anderson's story of Brainwave: http://www.scifi.com/sfw/books/classic/sfw8125.html Brain Wave A tale about a true hero-that happens to be wrong about who that hero is Brain Wave By Poul Anderson http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=Poul+Anderson & gwp=13 First published 1954 By Adam-Troy Castro The time is the mid-20th century. A rabbit caught in a trap figures out how to work the lever that sets it free. A young boy doodling with numbers invents differential calculus before breakfast. A simple- minded farmworker named Archie Brock is suddenly overcome by his first appreciation of the size of the universe. Physicist Peter Corinth goes to work one morning to find everybody he encounters, from his colleagues at the university to the elevator operator who had previously been beneath his notice, having what seems to be the sharpest day of their lives. Everybody's a little bit smarter; everybody's having bright ideas they weren't intelligent enough to consider before. He thinks little of it at first, but then the average IQ leaps several hundred points in a matter of days, affecting all forms of animal life. Domestic animals achieve sentience, men of below-average intelligence become geniuses, and savants like Corinth become super-geniuses, causing shock waves that ripple throughout the entire civilized world. Before long, an explanation becomes clear. A vast region of space, including Earth's solar system, had previously been affected by an energy-damping field that impeded the nervous system. Evolution had compensated, giving all life on Earth a level of intelligence sufficient to provide adequate thought capacity despite the influence of this field. When the solar system traveled outside of the field, every form of life with a brain now finds itself functioning without handicap. Civilization totters as menial workers find themselves no longer content to do what they now consider brainless work, as domestic animals revolt against their exploitation, and as the great thinkers find their ambitions outstripping their simple human passions. The change will soon take humanity to the stars-but the story's true heart lies in the limited ones who must still remain behind. All I want to suggest is that maybe we are what will be considered something not to be and won't be, the ancient ways are returning. The mind will clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 At 02:53 PM 10/4/2008, you wrote: > real love based leadership , That would be miracle enough. Dream on Paula, watch the movie Endgame and you will see what we are really in store for ~ bread lines, slavery and chips instilled in everyone. Big Brother to the Max! Better do our exercises while we still can ~ Angelina I see what you are talking about, and I'll dream on with Paula anyway. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Hi Sarita, > I prefer to believe that whatever is coming, we will rise to the > challenge and make lemonade out of any lemons. Yes, you are right and it is best to remain positive on this matter ~ Angelina , " Sarita " <sarita1969 wrote: > > > Angelina, what makes you think that " Endgame " is reality? There are as > many theories out there as blades of grass. Why adopt a negative one? > I prefer to believe that whatever is coming, we will rise to the > challenge and make lemonade out of any lemons. > > Sarita > > > , " gypsyeyes_101 " > <gypsyeyes_101@> wrote: > > > > > real love based leadership , That would be miracle enough. > > > > Dream on Paula, watch the movie Endgame and you will see what > > we are really in store for ~ bread lines, slavery and chips > > instilled in everyone. Big Brother to the Max! Better > > do our exercises while we still can ~ Angelina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 At 08:14 PM 10/4/2008, you wrote: You mentioned energy products and why haven't the people that have created a better way of doing things never heard of again. Money is that answer, Free the world! Power to the People! ... NICE BMW! In a not too far distance we will go off a monitory system, to obtain anything you will have to be implanted or other things. Like right now I only see a small percentage of the money I make the large portion is electronic. When this tidal wave of awakening to K energy comes and people again revolt against the statuesque. The idea of being chipped is considered horrific by most fundamentalist Christians I know. Gawd bless them on this one. I don't believe it is the " Mark of the Beast " but if they do and they use that to keep these disgusting things out of our bodies then I'm right behind them. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Yeah I'll admit that there's quite a few pretty far fetched ideas out there, mine included no doubt hehe, but i definitly agree that some love based leadership would be most wonderful indeed :-3I have seen some wild ideas floating around, and a lot of them smack of fantasy wish-fulfillment to me, both positive and negative. Me, I'll settle for some real love-based leadership in my lifetime. That would be miracle enough.,_._,___ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 speaking of big brother, there's a really good book called little brother that gives i think a very realistic dipiction of what could happen in the near future (almost present really) and it's well written, an awesome story line, and great character development :-3. Good book overall, if not a little unsettling because of how realistic it seems.--- On Sat, 10/4/08, gypsyeyes_101 <gypsyeyes_101 wrote: Dream on Paula, watch the movie Endgame and you will see what we are really in store for ~ bread lines, slavery and chips instilled in everyone. Big Brother to the Max! Better do our exercises while we still can ~ Angelina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 Since 1999 I have received numerous visions and dreams and I have no fear or pessimism what-so-ever, I have been shown that the kingdom of God is upon us and we are indeed going home. However the outer world looks right now is nothing compared to what is coming in reality. It will hit us in the heart like a firework and lift us all up in the beat of a butterflies wing. I believe in what God shows me inside not what others show me. False Evidence Appearing Real....or..... Heaven On Mother Earth. FEAR HOME Have faith, we are going home love elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 > Be the Super Ego Paula, don't just stand there and look at it. In > almost all of these movies weren't the people with special powers > considered the bad guys. Could you ever believe that in the future we > will be the destroyers of the world? Think about that first before > responding, people going through an awakening are not the majority of > the norms. A life filled with K involves a closeness and respect of > nature and a devotion of changing the world to a non-mechanical > system. That makes us the outcasts the un-suitable for social > cohabitation. Am I getting to a war of good and evil here? We have to work intensively with the clear purpose of eliminating our undesirable elements.Here im proactive If we don't eliminate , we will fail and become the miscarriage of the cosmic mother a failure. If a K. person truely works on themself to awaken consciousness they can integrate with divinity, where there is a code there is a code breaker, no chip or prison will stop this.This is a path beyond good and evil.When a thing suits us it is good and when it does not it is evil .There is much virtue in the villian and much evil in the virtuous.We are the destroyers of this eon but the torches to the next. The only road is the razors edge , a path filled with perils both outside and inside.Evil is dangerous and good is dangerous this path beyond good and evil is quite cruel...the best thing to do is forget our attatchments to our yesterdays and go forward in the spirit of good grace, and goodwill to all we meet.. paula Think of it, back in the 60's there was a first wave of social change > and revolution. Sort of started out make love not war but it was a > war and there was blood shed. But look at us now we are over 30 and > we are the establishment and little has changed. From my teen years > in the early 60's to now I have learned a few things about governing > and a most important point is that mostly people are sheep in need of > a Shepard. Else wise I wouldn't have been able to form a cult so long > ago...ben born in the 70's a stroppy gen x..and believe in self responsiblity, for health, wealth etc , be a sheeple get fleeced! but see you point..The most amazing image I have seen from that era was the monks in tibet, that were set on fire, and sat there meditating, on I am the field of consciousness until they burned to death gaining instant enlightenment, astounding times..some made it...paula > We have an inner-dependant network on manufacturing and financial > structures, change just one thing and like in the butterfly effect > the whole house of cards comes falling down. Money is the milk, oil, > flow of this whole system and if you stop the flow there is hell to > pay. Products and toys are symbols of money in that spiraling flow of > energy. And within most of the new toys, cars, cell-phones, and all > smart electronics there are RFID chips. You try telling me that > putting a rare earth magnet next to a RFID chip and it will disable > it, not so, put one up to your cell-phone, it will still work, but > doesn't a cell-phone have magnets in it already?ben > we are in a fiat currency backed not by gold but by fresh air.For every £1 of signitory debt a bank can create £9 of virtual monopoly money, it's not that food , gas etc are getting more expensive but that currency is becomming worth less, when it hits zero the Amero will appear..It can only crash it has no where else to go. It's time to pay hell, face the shadow and do the work within. rfid.. lol, I bought a wooden monopoly game and a pack of seeds the other day it was all rfid inside All of my credit cards and my passport is rfid tagged, what I mean is , I don't worry about it. paula > By Adam-Troy Castro> The time is the mid-20th century. A rabbit caught in a trap figures > out how to work the lever that sets it free. A young boy doodling > with numbers invents differential calculus before breakfast. A simple-> minded farmworker named Archie Brock is suddenly overcome by his > first appreciation of the size of the universe. ben> With all of their new capacity for knowledge and understanding, I'm sure the built a loving and fair new society..having mastered themselves by putting down the demon of desire, the demon of evil will and the demon of the mind attaining perfection...paula All I want to suggest is that maybe we are what will be considered > something not to be and won't be, the ancient ways are returning. The > mind will clear. ben I guess the K. awakened when they have liquidated within all the aspects of good and evil values , they become someone that no-one understands , being the flame of universal spirit of life. Always being put through the lens of psychology as either the saint or the sinner.When in truth he is beyond both. paula > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 I love the lyrics of this old enigma song...feel the spirit.. Love, Devotion Feeling, Emotion Don't be afraid to be weak Don't be too proud to be strong Just look into your heart my friend That will be the return to yourself The return to Innocence If you want then start to laugh If you must then start to cry Be yourself, Don't fake Just believe in destiny Don't care what people say Just follow your own way Don't give up And miss the chance To return to Innocence That's not the beginning of the end It's the return to yourself The return to Innocence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Mmmm sounds good elektra and i belive it will be much like you have seen. However I belive earth may feel to be like home I dont belive that it will ever be. " the son of man has no place to rest his head " . John. , Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote: > > Since 1999 I have received numerous visions and dreams and I have no fear or pessimism what-so-ever, I have been shown that the kingdom of God is upon us and we are indeed going home. > However the outer world looks right now is nothing compared to what is coming in reality. It will hit us in the heart like a firework and lift us all up in the beat of a butterflies wing. > I believe in what God shows me inside not what others show me. > False Evidence Appearing Real....or..... Heaven On Mother Earth. > FEAR HOME > Have faith, we are going home > love elektra x x x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Brandi you already have the number that allows you to sell and buy (do commerce) that is the social security number or tin number. They will only be able to chip persons, though the people who know who they are, the financial institutions will only be able to chip there birth certificates. John , Brandi Jasmine <jazztalk wrote: > > At 08:14 PM 10/4/2008, you wrote: > >You mentioned energy products and why haven't the people that have > >created a better way of doing things never heard of again. Money is > >that answer, > > Free the world! Power to the People! ... NICE BMW! > > >In a not too far distance we will go off a monitory system, to obtain > >anything you will have to be implanted or other things. Like right > >now I only see a small percentage of the money I make the large > >portion is electronic. When this tidal wave of awakening to K energy > >comes and people again revolt against the statuesque. > > The idea of being chipped is considered horrific by most fundamentalist Christians I know. Gawd bless them on this one. I don't believe it is the " Mark of the Beast " but if they do and they use that to keep these disgusting things out of our bodies then I'm right behind them. > > Brandi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Fiat money i suppose that means they the fed res can create as much as whats needed. interesting they cant create enough to stableise the exsisting economy. Interesting that was the promise they made when the disabled the gold system . interesting and i have been wondering what the current economic climate is about. Interesting i think you answered it for me and that it is about bringing to fruition the amero' Interesting but do you know that the peoples labour is the backing to what is known as the current fiat system. this for the people is much more valuable than gold. Because the people are the real creditors. yet the wool has been pulled over there sheeple eyes. John , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > > we are in a fiat currency backed not by gold but by fresh air.For > every £1 of signitory debt a bank can create £9 of virtual > monopoly money, it's not that food , gas etc are getting more expensive > but that currency is becomming worth less, when it hits zero the Amero > will appear..It can only crash it has no where else to go. It's time to > pay hell, face the shadow and do the work within. > > rfid.. lol, I bought a wooden monopoly game and a pack of seeds the > other day it was all rfid inside All of my credit cards and my > passport is rfid tagged, what I mean is , I don't worry about it. paula > > > By Adam-Troy Castro > > The time is the mid-20th century. A rabbit caught in a trap figures > > out how to work the lever that sets it free. A young boy doodling > > with numbers invents differential calculus before breakfast. A simple- > > minded farmworker named Archie Brock is suddenly overcome by his > > first appreciation of the size of the universe. ben > > > > With all of their new capacity for knowledge and understanding, I'm sure > the built a loving and fair new society..having mastered themselves by > putting down the demon of desire, the demon of evil will and the demon > of the mind attaining perfection...paula > > All I want to suggest is that maybe we are what will be considered > > something not to be and won't be, the ancient ways are returning. The > > mind will clear. ben > > I guess the K. awakened when they have liquidated within all the aspects > of good and evil values , they become someone that no-one understands , > being the flame of universal spirit of life. Always being put through > the lens of psychology as either the saint or the sinner.When in truth > he is beyon both. paula > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 i dont know why people still want to have a leader. Reminds me of a song from the late sixties they sing will they ever learn John , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > > > > The problem is that the word " Apocalypse " has so much baggage. As a > former fundamentalist, for me, that word just conjures up the scary > business. And I mean scary. > > Thats why I think we should re-claim it back to its intended meaning , a > covering a mask a veil, thus the lifting of the veil.Taking the seals > off of the chakras. It's a bit like the word swastika and it's nazi > connotations but swastika really its a blessing...by reclaiming the > words the fear is dispersed.. > > also they translated the end of the eon as the end of time, they mean > different things , the end of the eon means the end of the age, the age > of pieces, then the next age begins aquarius.. > > real love based leadership , That would be miracle enough. > > > more than agree to that > > P~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 As long as we can dance, and make and listen to music where ever we go and whatever happens, then i'm all for it :-3 no matter where, what, or who makes it happen.--- On Sat, 10/4/08, johndplumber <jaganatha wrote:johndplumber <jaganatha Re: 2012 Apocalypse Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 8:40 PM Mmmm sounds good elektra and i belive it will be much like you have seen. However I belive earth may feel to be like home I dont belive that it will ever be. " the son of man has no place to rest his head". John. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 so what would you want instead? Anarchy? *gasp!* hehehehe. As much as i'd love to live to see the day when anarchy works (folk anarchy to be specific, that's my personal preference) there's no way human society will be able to function in an anarchist state. That's not to say it's not a good goal to have in mind, an ideal to strive for, but like any ideal it's just an ideal and will not work exactly as planned in real life (a good example is the diffrence between little c communism and big C communism. Lennon's idea worked on paper, but not nessisarily as well in real life). So people are probably going to have to have leaders for a while. I for instance don't mind the fact that we have leaders right now even though i'm an anarchist although i would like to see good leaders in place... But who's good and who's not is all subjective really :-P.--- On Sat, 10/4/08, johndplumber <jaganatha wrote:johndplumber <jaganatha Re: 2012 Apocalypse Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 9:31 PM i dont know why people still want to have a leader. Reminds me of a song from the late sixties they sing will they ever learn John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 My favourite group Paula. Amazing !! I have all their albums and DVDs & I have put in a request for the new one out next month. I find it is great to meditate to as it takes me to wonderful places. Skydancer x , " alayafire " <ari.reza wrote: > > I love the lyrics of this old enigma song...feel the spirit.. > > > Love, Devotion > Feeling, Emotion > Don't be afraid to be weak > Don't be too proud to be strong > Just look into your heart my friend > That will be the return to yourself > The return to Innocence > If you want then start to laugh > If you must then start to cry > Be yourself, Don't fake > Just believe in destiny > Don't care what people say > Just follow your own way > Don't give up > And miss the chance > To return to Innocence > That's not the beginning of the end > It's the return to yourself > The return to Innocence. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 I have studied the financial system for a few years now. In adopting a fiat-money system the 'reality' of money was surreptitiously transferred from the physical to the astral... it IS in fact governed by laws but they are not intuitive in the same way as a physical currency system. I don't pretend to 'secret knowledge' of the operations, just take the opportunity to point out that if you believe in or are sensitive to what we would consider a 'higher' reality, it might surprise you to further explore the concept of what " money " is. incidentally your comments about the backing being the labor of the people is, I think, fairly accurate. now if you want to become a real conspiracy nut, consider that the US government is going to own the mortgage deeds on a ton of homes lived in by its citizens as well as their insurance policies, in addition to extending the powers of the (once-independent) Fed to oversight and control of credit markets. what system of government does that look like to you? keep your eyes open. -brian , " johndplumber " <jaganatha wrote: > > Fiat money i suppose that means they the fed res can create as much > as whats needed. interesting they cant create enough to stableise the > exsisting economy. Interesting that was the promise they made when > the disabled the gold system . interesting and i have been wondering > what the current economic climate is about. Interesting i think you > answered it for me and that it is about bringing to fruition the > amero' Interesting but do you know that the peoples labour is the > backing to what is known as the current fiat system. this for the > people is much more valuable than gold. Because the people are the > real creditors. yet the wool has been pulled over there sheeple eyes. > John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Brian I am no nut. Aloidial title went out with the gold system when you might ever get hold of you land title it will show that you are only a tennent yes you are just a surf paying rent to your lords. though you must come to understand there is always a need for the system to supply a remedy did you not learn of the A4V4 remedy of commercial redemption yet. JohnKundalini-Awakening-Systems- 1 , " a_seventh_son " <a_seventh_son wrote: > > I have studied the financial system for a few years now. In adopting > a fiat-money system the 'reality' of money was surreptitiously > transferred from the physical to the astral... it IS in fact governed > by laws but they are not intuitive in the same way as a physical > currency system. I don't pretend to 'secret knowledge' of the > operations, just take the opportunity to point out that if you believe > in or are sensitive to what we would consider a 'higher' reality, it > might surprise you to further explore the concept of what " money " is. > > incidentally your comments about the backing being the labor of the > people is, I think, fairly accurate. now if you want to become a real > conspiracy nut, consider that the US government is going to own the > mortgage deeds on a ton of homes lived in by its citizens as well as > their insurance policies, in addition to extending the powers of the > (once-independent) Fed to oversight and control of credit markets. > what system of government does that look like to you? keep your eyes > open. > > -brian > > , " johndplumber " > <jaganatha@> wrote: > > > > Fiat money i suppose that means they the fed res can create as much > > as whats needed. interesting they cant create enough to stableise the > > exsisting economy. Interesting that was the promise they made when > > the disabled the gold system . interesting and i have been wondering > > what the current economic climate is about. Interesting i think you > > answered it for me and that it is about bringing to fruition the > > amero' Interesting but do you know that the peoples labour is the > > backing to what is known as the current fiat system. this for the > > people is much more valuable than gold. Because the people are the > > real creditors. yet the wool has been pulled over there sheeple eyes. > > John > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 dear mr crazy go nuts No! Anarchy does not exsist when kings of rule are about. if you take responcability for your self you will be a king as well. Site pat is very strong and if I was you i would be wary because as you hang out with this group things will rub off on to you. until then you may be under control of ecclesiasties law where as people become persons and gave up there birth rite John. , Steve Lynch <mrcrazygonuts wrote: > > so what would you want instead? Anarchy? *gasp!* hehehehe. As much as i'd love to live to see the day when anarchy works (folk anarchy to be specific, that's my personal preference) there's no way human society will be able to function in an anarchist state. That's not to say it's not a good goal to have in mind, an ideal to strive for, but like any ideal it's just an ideal and will not work exactly as planned in real life (a good example is the diffrence between little c communism and big C communism. Lennon's idea worked on paper, but not nessisarily as well in real life). So people are probably going to have to have leaders for a while. I for instance don't mind the fact that we have leaders right now even though i'm an anarchist although i would like to see good leaders in place... But who's good and who's not is all subjective really :-P. > > --- On Sat, 10/4/08, johndplumber <jaganatha wrote: > johndplumber <jaganatha > Re: 2012 Apocalypse > > Saturday, October 4, 2008, 9:31 PM > > > > > i dont know why people still want to have a leader. > > Reminds me of a song from the late sixties > > they sing will they ever learn > > > > John > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 At 02:32 PM 10/4/2008, you wrote: > The problem is that the word " Apocalypse " has so much baggage. As a former fundamentalist, for me, that word just conjures up the scary business. And I mean scary. Thats why I think we should re-claim it back to its intended meaning , a covering a mask a veil, thus the lifting of the veil.Taking the seals off of the chakras. It's a bit like the word swastika and it's nazi connotations but swastika really its a blessing...by reclaiming the words the fear is dispersed.. I understand that line of reasoning and I think there are some words so tainted by association that they can never be reclaimed. You always risk being misunderstood or triggering someone when you use them. " Apocalypse " is one of those words for me. Brandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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