i hate mail

[Guest guest]

so i wrote a very cool email, that none of you will get to read because mail just deleted it. I wrote about how i started the five tibetans and the alternate nostral breathing and meditation tonight, interesting, and glad my brother and mom didn't catch me in the middle of it, because they don't know anything about any of this, and i don't want to talk to them about it because my mom'll think i'm insane (literally i bet) and my brother's already kind of crazy, taking medications and everything. and then i went into this really cool think about why i don't believe in god and all these philisophical postulates and examples and reasonings and everything, and you know what happens, gone, just completely wiped clean, like two hours of work and that was seriously probably the most intelligent thing i would have ever posted. But now all you get

is this short email written by a tired frustrated idiot kid who doesn't believe in god and whom you have no idea why that would be relevent at all (well, it's because the safety of prayer has been on my mind a lot, and i'm just not comfortable praying to figures i don't nessisarily believe in personally, no offence to any and all, i respect your opinions and know that it's true for you, but they're not true for me) bah! I guess the kundalini didn't want you thinking i was actually intelligent :-(. guess i'm still the idiot with nothing but enthusiasm :-D yay! Oh and even worse now because my concept of god is so vastly different and messed up that i can't even comfortable pray to anything :-P. Sorry the fact that my email got wiped just left me with that dumb kind of tired, like, i like the yay i just finished writing three pages of awesome stuff and now i'm tired , tired, but i don't like the, i just wrote three pages of awesome

and it's all gone now and i'm tired from writing all that nonexistant information, kind of tired. So to recap, started the five tibetans and breathing and meditation, don't know who to pray to, mail's frustrating, and i'm tired and my left leg's front tendon right at the front of my hip is in so much pain from trying to do the second tibetan with it and dancing earlier that i think i'm going to have to start picking it up with my hands again when i get into my car :-P. Oh yeah and i've been snacking on grape tomatoes and lemonade as apposed to other kinds of junk food, (although the lemonade's from concentrate) oh yeah and i have a confession to make, i'm a smoker, and i know already that i'm going to have to quit, and that's probably going to be the biggest hurdle because i love cloves, they've probably saved my life more than once (seriously), but i figured i'd tell you now in a fit of frustration because my one email that was

going to be all intellectual and cool was totally owned by reality :-P. well whatever, life's still cool, and the irony of this situation is hilarious, well it'll be hilarious tomorrow when i'm not in the midst of being all salty about it hehe :-P. *sigh* it's really an issue though, the concept of prayer, i really don't know what to do about it, and what should i be meditating about? anything in particular? Is there any other questions i should be asking? What is the air speed velocity of an unlaiden swallow? How many fingers am i holding up? Am i even holding up any fingers? Alright i'm done, good night you guys :-3.

[Guest guest]

I believe you can just say a mantra like, " I am that am " instead

of " for the love of Christ " or God. You should be sure to do the

compression prayer though, just don't think of it as prayer..do a

mantra instead. You can make up your own. I feel the alternate

nostril breathing really helps in balancing. I get a lot of cool

visions while doing it.

 

Linda

 

, Steve Lynch

<mrcrazygonuts wrote:

>

> so i wrote a very cool email, that none of you will get to read

because mail just deleted it.  I wrote about how i started the

five tibetans and the alternate nostral breathing and meditation

tonight, interesting, and glad my brother and mom didn't catch me in

the middle of it, because they don't know anything about any of this,

and i don't want to talk to them about it because my mom'll think i'm

insane (literally i bet) and my brother's already kind of crazy,

taking medications and everything.  and then i went into this really

cool think about why i don't believe in god and all these

philisophical postulates and examples and reasonings and everything,

and you know what happens, gone, just completely wiped clean, like

two hours of work and that was seriously probably the most

intelligent thing i would have ever posted.  But now all you get is

this short email written by a tired frustrated idiot kid who doesn't

believe in god and whom you have

> no idea why that would be relevent at all (well, it's because the

safety of prayer has been on my mind a lot, and i'm just not

comfortable praying to figures i don't nessisarily believe in

personally, no offence to any and all, i respect your opinions and

know that it's true for you, but they're not true for me) bah!  I

guess the kundalini didn't want you thinking i was actually

intelligent :-(.  guess i'm still the idiot with nothing but

enthusiasm :-D yay!  Oh and even worse now because my concept of god

is so vastly different and messed up that i can't even comfortable

pray to anything :-P.  Sorry the fact that my email got wiped just

left me with that dumb kind of tired, like, i like the yay i just

finished writing three pages of awesome stuff and now i'm tired ,

tired, but i don't like the, i just wrote three pages of awesome and

it's all gone now and i'm tired from writing all that nonexistant

information, kind of tired.  So to recap, started

> the five tibetans and breathing and meditation, don't know who to

pray to, mail's frustrating, and i'm tired and my left leg's

front tendon right at the front of my hip is in so much pain from

trying to do the second tibetan with it and dancing earlier that i

think i'm going to have to start picking it up with my hands again

when i get into my car :-P.  Oh yeah and i've been snacking on grape

tomatoes and lemonade as apposed to other kinds of junk food,

(although the lemonade's from concentrate) oh yeah and i have a

confession to make,  i'm a smoker, and i know already that i'm going

to have to quit, and that's probably going to be the biggest hurdle

because i love cloves, they've probably saved my life more than once

(seriously), but i figured i'd tell you now in a fit of frustration

because my one email that was going to be all intellectual and cool

was totally owned by reality :-P.  well whatever, life's still cool,

and the irony of this

> situation is hilarious, well it'll be hilarious tomorrow when i'm

not in the midst of being all salty about it hehe :-P.  *sigh* it's

really an issue though, the concept of prayer, i really don't know

what to do about it, and what should i be meditating about?  anything

in particular?  Is there any other questions i should be asking? 

What is the air speed velocity of an unlaiden swallow?  How many

fingers am i holding up?  Am i even holding up any fingers?  Alright

i'm done, good night you guys :-3.

>

[Guest guest]

I'll have to keep it up, no visions yet but i get a sense of something... Hopefully a cool something, but we'll see :-P. I've been toying with the idea of using the mantra from dune, i will not fear fear is the mind killer, lol, but it's to based on the negative, :-P--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Linda <crazycats711 wrote:Linda <crazycats711 Re: i hate mail Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 11:33 AM

 

I believe you can just say a mantra like, "I am that am" instead

of "for the love of Christ" or God. You should be sure to do the

compression prayer though, just don't think of it as prayer..do a

mantra instead. You can make up your own. I feel the alternate

nostril breathing really helps in balancing. I get a lot of cool

visions while doing it.

 

Linda

 

Kundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 , Steve Lynch

<mrcrazygonuts@ ...> wrote:

>

> so i wrote a very cool email, that none of you will get to read

because mail just deleted it. I wrote about how i started the

five tibetans and the alternate nostral breathing and meditation

tonight, interesting, and glad my brother and mom didn't catch me in

the middle of it, because they don't know anything about any of this,

and i don't want to talk to them about it because my mom'll think i'm

insane (literally i bet) and my brother's already kind of crazy,

taking medications and everything. and then i went into this really

cool think about why i don't believe in god and all these

philisophical postulates and examples and reasonings and everything,

and you know what happens, gone, just completely wiped clean, like

two hours of work and that was seriously probably the most

intelligent thing i would have ever posted. But now all you get is

this short email written by a tired frustrated idiot kid who doesn't

believe in god and whom you have

> no idea why that would be relevent at all (well, it's because the

safety of prayer has been on my mind a lot, and i'm just not

comfortable praying to figures i don't nessisarily believe in

personally, no offence to any and all, i respect your opinions and

know that it's true for you, but they're not true for me) bah! I

guess the kundalini didn't want you thinking i was actually

intelligent :-(. guess i'm still the idiot with nothing but

enthusiasm :-D yay! Oh and even worse now because my concept of god

is so vastly different and messed up that i can't even comfortable

pray to anything :-P. Sorry the fact that my email got wiped just

left me with that dumb kind of tired, like, i like the yay i just

finished writing three pages of awesome stuff and now i'm tired ,

tired, but i don't like the, i just wrote three pages of awesome and

it's all gone now and i'm tired from writing all that nonexistant

information, kind of tired. So to recap, started

> the five tibetans and breathing and meditation, don't know who to

pray to, mail's frustrating, and i'm tired and my left leg's

front tendon right at the front of my hip is in so much pain from

trying to do the second tibetan with it and dancing earlier that i

think i'm going to have to start picking it up with my hands again

when i get into my car :-P. Oh yeah and i've been snacking on grape

tomatoes and lemonade as apposed to other kinds of junk food,

(although the lemonade's from concentrate) oh yeah and i have a

confession to make, i'm a smoker, and i know already that i'm going

to have to quit, and that's probably going to be the biggest hurdle

because i love cloves, they've probably saved my life more than once

(seriously), but i figured i'd tell you now in a fit of frustration

because my one email that was going to be all intellectual and cool

was totally owned by reality :-P. well whatever, life's still cool,

and the irony of this

> situation is hilarious, well it'll be hilarious tomorrow when i'm

not in the midst of being all salty about it hehe :-P. *sigh* it's

really an issue though, the concept of prayer, i really don't know

what to do about it, and what should i be meditating about? anything

in particular? Is there any other questions i should be asking?

What is the air speed velocity of an unlaiden swallow? How many

fingers am i holding up? Am i even holding up any fingers? Alright

i'm done, good night you guys :-3.

>

[Guest guest]

Steven,

Hello and welcome. I have not written you as of yet but have read your posts with a great deal of interest. Do not consider the deletion of your email as "loss". Afer all, journaling is one of the great tools to know your true self, and eventually to enlightenment. Possibly what you wrote was for your benefit, and meant for your eyes only. I have seen many people beginning a spiritual path with a problem with prayer and God. Nonetheless, they chose any object as God, and any form of mantra or words as "prayer" until the time that their own concept of the Divine was revealed to them. Many of this group have come out of different religious and spiritual backgrounds that we were spoon-fed as children, only to find our true source, our own God, whomever he/she may be. It is not a requirement here to believe a certain way. We are Christians, Buddhists, agnostic, and many other labels used to

identify belief or non-belief. Our common bond is kundalini. We have become aware that it iexists, is real, and can be activated for our good and the good of mankind. So keep writing, whether it makes it through cyberspace to the eyes of the awakened members here, or it is set free to resonate through space, it will always return to the originator. That is YOU. May you find your true self, your source, and your awakening.

 

Sat Nam, my friend,

Julie--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Steve Lynch <mrcrazygonuts wrote:

Steve Lynch <mrcrazygonuts i hate mail Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 8:39 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

so i wrote a very cool email, that none of you will get to read because mail just deleted it. I wrote about how i started the five tibetans and the alternate nostral breathing and meditation tonight, interesting, and glad my brother and mom didn't catch me in the middle of it, because they don't know anything about any of this, and i don't want to talk to them about it because my mom'll think i'm insane (literally i bet) and my brother's already kind of crazy, taking medications and everything. and then i went into this really cool think about why i don't believe in god and all these philisophical postulates and examples and reasonings and everything, and you know what happens, gone, just completely wiped clean, like two hours of work and that was seriously probably the most intelligent thing i would have ever posted. But now all you get is this short email written by a tired frustrated idiot

ki

[Guest guest]

Hi, Lock,

 

Gmail has a very neat feature; it automatically saves email drafts

you're working on. You can also click " save draft " as you are

working. If you save it before sending it is protected. (You can

also search and archive with labels; it's a lot of fun - and free.)

 

As for the higher power question. You must be inclined to believe

there is *something* greater than the (human) individual, be it

collective consciousness, collective unconscious, higher

consciousness, greater potential for Love which is not yet being

tapped, some ideal not yet realised by humanity or simply More.

 

Start by seeing how comfortable you are with the idea of More Beyond

Myself. This is greater than, but also, to use your word, inclusive

of you. Just as when you go to a rave, there must be a moment when

you feel more merged with the whole and everyone seems one for a

moment - perhaps you even have a word in the scene for that

sensation, that " moreness " to yourself, which seems to expand your

self definition. It must be part of why people do these things.

 

You no longer feel like one fish in a sea, but every fish as well as

the sea itself. Your own (lower) self may seem to ebb or diminish in

that moment, and a greater sense of Self emerges, something very

natural feeling and perhaps ecstatic.

 

That, I believe, is the aim, or one of the aims, of meditation - to

still that little fish, and give him a sense of the everything of

which he is an intregal part.

 

Not a bad place to start, eh?

 

x,

Droxine

[Guest guest]

Hello Julie :-3 Thank you for the warm welcome and words of advice, my concepts and thoughts on god are interesting i suppose, but that's always the problem, they're concepts and thoughts, not beliefs or articles of faith, which seems to have a lot to do with the whole religion thing :-P. I'll just have to be patient and open to whatever makes itself known to me and until then keep up my thoughts and concepts :-P. Oh yes, another thing to ask, anyone ever heard of discordianism? The church of discord, it's a lovely idea and their book the Principia Discordia is a hilarious and pretty stimulating read :-3. Plus it's intentionally not copyrighted so you can usually find all kinds of versions of it eveywhere.--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Julie <jewelport wrote:Julie <jewelportRe: i hate mail Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 1:33 PM

 

Steven,

Hello and welcome. I have not written you as of yet but have read your posts with a great deal of interest. Do not consider the deletion of your email as "loss". Afer all, journaling is one of the great tools to know your true self, and eventually to enlightenment. Possibly what you wrote was for your benefit, and meant for your eyes only. I have seen many people beginning a spiritual path with a problem with prayer and God. Nonetheless, they chose any object as God, and any form of mantra or words as "prayer" until the time that their own concept of the Divine was revealed to them. Many of this group have come out of different religious and spiritual backgrounds that we were spoon-fed as children, only to find our true source, our own God, whomever he/she may be. It is not a requirement here to believe a certain way. We are Christians, Buddhists, agnostic, and many other labels used to

identify belief or non-belief. Our common bond is kundalini. We have become aware that it iexists, is real, and can be activated for our good and the good of mankind. So keep writing, whether it makes it through cyberspace to the eyes of the awakened members here, or it is set free to resonate through space, it will always return to the originator. That is YOU. May you find your true self, your source, and your awakening.

 

Sat Nam, my friend,

Julie--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Steve Lynch <mrcrazygonuts@ > wrote:

Steve Lynch <mrcrazygonuts@ >[Kundalini-Awakenin g-Systems- 1] i hate mailKundalini-Awakening -Systems- 1 Sunday, October 5, 2008, 8:39 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

so i wrote a very cool email, that none of you will get to read because mail just deleted it. I wrote about how i started the five tibetans and the alternate nostral breathing and meditation tonight, interesting, and glad my brother and mom didn't catch me in the middle of it, because they don't know anything about any of this, and i don't want to talk to them about it because my mom'll think i'm insane (literally i bet) and my brother's already kind of crazy, taking medications and everything. and then i went into this really cool think about why i don't believe in god and all these philisophical postulates and examples and reasonings and everything, and you know what happens, gone, just completely wiped clean, like two hours of work and that was seriously probably the most intelligent thing i would have ever posted. But now all you get is this short email written by a tired frustrated idiot

ki

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, i feel at least the the ideas put forth in discordianism (the ideas of chaotic creation and ordered creation, and the ideas of different paradigms being different ways of filtering the same information that is existence, compliment the ideas of K very nicely, what do you guys think?--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Julie <jewelport wrote:Julie <jewelportRe: i hate mail Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 1:33 PM

 

Steven,

Hello and welcome. I have not written you as of yet but have read your posts with a great deal of interest. Do not consider the deletion of your email as "loss". Afer all, journaling is one of the great tools to know your true self, and eventually to enlightenment. Possibly what you wrote was for your benefit, and meant for your eyes only.

[Guest guest]

what a lovely way of putting it! :-D! And i know exactly what you're talking about, most ravers do, and most of the time when they talk about it they use the acronym PLUR which stands for peace love unity and respect, it's mostly the unity part that you feel when you're part of the rave, in fact there's a rave that happens annually called together as one, and it's all about that :-3. The concept of unity actually one of the most prominent thing about Kundalini that i like. (it's also what made me get into the rave scene as much as i have). Both the rave scene and kundalini stress the idea of love and unity.Part of raving is knowing that you're having fun, then turning to the person next to you and knowing that they're having just as much fun, and knowing that they're hoping you're having just as much fun as them :-3. And

when that all falls into place it's a nice feeling to know that there's nothing but happiness flowing through you and everyone else (and it seems like this sensation of unity is important for K too to me). And ok that's kind of an unrealistically optimistic ideal for a rave, honestly people bring their negativity and everything, but it's ok, because most of the time people try to make sure everyone has fun, even if there's problems and stuff :-3.And that moreness, that word to describe how the unification affects people and things and what not, is called being a raver! :-D hehe.Thank you for the ideas to meditate on, it sounds like fun to meditate on the concepts of self, that which is beyond the self, and the borders between this self, and the communal self how those borders can shift, and the different perspectives one can have when viewing all of the above. (Does that coincide with the fish metaphor you

presented?)Oh and I tried to find the draft of the original email and couldn't, and was not smart enough to click save as a draft so it was lost as far as i was able to tell, but i'm over it, it was just an email hehe :-D.And no, it's a wonderful place to start, thank you again for the advice :-3. Hope your day's rediculously awesome :-D.--- On Sun, 10/5/08, droxine5 <Droxine1 wrote:droxine5 <Droxine1 Re: i hate mail Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:48 PM

 

Hi, Lock,

 

Gmail has a very neat feature; it automatically saves email drafts

you're working on. You can also click "save draft" as you are

working. If you save it before sending it is protected. (You can

also search and archive with labels; it's a lot of fun - and free.)