Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Alright, so i've posted this several times now, and everyone seems to completely miss it, which is seriously making me a little uncomfortable, seeing as how no one responding to something important like this is the first sign i usually get that something really, really bad is about to happen (or i just write to much and everyone kind of misses it in the mass of all my other emails and stuff, :-P that's much more likely), but i'm not going to think about that, so please, this has really been on my mind recently and i hope this is the right place for this post...Can anyone tell me what they think about these concepts, do they hold merit? do they make no sense at all? :-\ Does anyone even see these words? Rippeling causality. the effect this moment has on the future, and the effect the past has had on this moment, and the effect our preconcieved notions of the future (and how certain we believe those preconcieved notions about the future to be) have an effect on the present and past. Does that have to do with K? I'd think it very much so has to do with kundalini, as in kundalini is somewhat of a union between those effects? Or at least looking at times and stuff through lens that let you see all of the above in more clearly and easily understood ways? Does that make sense?It would kind of describe how the sensation of inner joy effects the anxiety levels one has, it's like shifting how likely you believe some preconcieved notions of the future from the negative to the positive at the core of your being, making those notions favor the positive, which influence your actions in the present towards the positive, which makes the positive more likely to happen.... I know that's the basic principle behind things like manifestation and what not right? But how far out can you reach? To quote my myspace tag line, how much power can one weild to manifest a destiny?Oh my you guys, it's not just influencing your own self's actions in subtle ways so that you can manage this stuff, it's not just making sure you stay positive and tweek the day's events so you're happy... What have i gotten myself into? and how far can it reach?Boy am i glad i've found a bunch of loving, cool people to help me out with this stuff LOL :-3lock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Hi Steve, I don't think anythings bad is going to happen if no one relpys to your post, unless you let you mind create that possibility. Hehe.. I believe we do create our realities by what we think and feel and how we respond to situations. We have influences bondbarding us at all times, good or bad. It's the way we handle them that will determine their effect upon us. We can sat our intention or just be bent by every wind that blows. Since I have been meditating I have learned to me more in the observer mode in situations and they do not have as much of an effect one me now. Before when those around me would get depressed or out of sort, angry, over anxious, or whatever, it would cause me to feel the same way. Now, as more the observer, I can stop it having an effect upon me and change..do/say things that will help the situations to turn around and have a better outcome for everyone. You don't have to let the ripples effect you unless they are the positive ones that would be desirable. Your power is determined by how much intention, will, and desire you have for something to come to pass unless it is something where another person is involved, then that person intention, will and desire will come into play. LOL! Is this what you are meaning, wanting to hear? Linda , Steve Lynch <mrcrazygonuts wrote: > > Alright, so i've posted this several times now, and everyone seems to completely miss it, which is seriously making me a little uncomfortable, seeing as how no one responding to something important like this is the first sign i usually get that something really, really bad is about to happen (or i just write to much and everyone kind of misses it in the mass of all my other emails and stuff, :-P that's much more likely), but i'm not going to think about that, so please, this has really been on my mind recently and i hope this is the right place for this post... > > Can anyone tell me what they think about these concepts, do they hold merit? do they make no sense at all? :-\ Does anyone even see these words? > > Rippeling causality. the effect > this moment has on the future, and the effect the past has had on this > moment, and the effect our preconcieved notions of the future (and how > certain we believe those preconcieved notions about the future to be) > have an effect on the present and past. Does that have to do with K? > I'd think it very much so has to do with kundalini, as in kundalini is > somewhat of a union between those effects? Or at least looking at > times and stuff through lens that let you see all of the above in more > clearly and easily understood ways? Does that make sense? > > It > would kind of describe how the sensation of inner joy effects the > anxiety levels one has, it's like shifting how likely you believe some > preconcieved notions of the future from the negative to the positive at > the core of your being, making those notions favor the positive, which > influence your actions in the present towards the positive, which makes > the positive more likely to happen.... I know that's the basic > principle behind things like manifestation and what not right? But how > far out can you reach? To quote my myspace tag line, how much power can one weild to manifest a destiny? > > Oh > my you guys, it's not just influencing your own self's actions in > subtle ways so that you can manage this stuff, it's not just making > sure you stay positive and tweek the day's events so you're happy... > What have i gotten myself into? and how far can it reach? > > Boy am i glad i've found a bunch of loving, cool people to help me out with this stuff LOL :-3 > > lock > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 I'm not really sure what i wanted to hear, lol. I just wanted to hear something at least :-P lol. Thank you so much for your response :-3.And i kind of like when people are depressed around me, it makes them easy targets for cheering up :-3.I'm wondering though how much influence one can have on the world, how far that influence reaches and how far the influence of other people (and other entities) influence reaches... It seems it's limitless, that whatever you put your faith and belief into hard enough becomes incarnate, as if we're constantly in a state of command over causality all the time...my faith becomes belief becomes thought becomes actions become reality...that's a powerful idea--- On Tue, 10/7/08, Linda <crazycats711 wrote:Linda <crazycats711 Re: something i'd really like an opinion on Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 12:56 PM Hi Steve, I don't think anythings bad is going to happen if no one relpys to your post, unless you let you mind create that possibility. Hehe.. I believe we do create our realities by what we think and feel and how we respond to situations. We have influences bondbarding us at all times, good or bad. It's the way we handle them that will determine their effect upon us. We can sat our intention or just be bent by every wind that blows. Since I have been meditating I have learned to me more in the observer mode in situations and they do not have as much of an effect one me now. Before when those around me would get depressed or out of sort, angry, over anxious, or whatever, it would cause me to feel the same way. Now, as more the observer, I can stop it having an effect upon me and change..do/say things that will help the situations to turn around and have a better outcome for everyone. You don't have to let the ripples effect you unless they are the positive ones that would be desirable. Your power is determined by how much intention, will, and desire you have for something to come to pass unless it is something where another person is involved, then that person intention, will and desire will come into play. LOL! Is this what you are meaning, wanting to hear? Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 A good place to start also is to stop putting things in to the good or the bad, this generates suffering. All things are really nuetral and as humans we identify labels of good and bad to situations which leads us to fear and anxiety or joy and hope. There is a Rumi saying (If i can get it right) " There is a field beyond good and bad, I'll meet you there " . Non judgement is a state of being where we no longer worry about things as we realise that all is perfect, the good the bad and the ugly. All is one. So, just be the best you can in the moment and know that all is perfect. love elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 Yes, that is the way it work. We are co-creators with the God source. I think we pretty much have free range while here on earth. We've go to learn to move mountians. Creating, that is what we are doing. Hehe! Linda , Steve Lynch <mrcrazygonuts wrote: > > I'm wondering though how much influence one can have on the world, how far that influence reaches and how far the influence of other people (and other entities) influence reaches... It seems it's limitless, that whatever you put your faith and belief into hard enough becomes incarnate, as if we're constantly in a state of command over causality all the time... > > my faith becomes belief becomes thought becomes actions become reality... > > that's a powerful idea > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 MMmmmmmm :-3 how about instead of good and bad, it's what makes you feel warm and fuzzy? hehehe :-3, thank you for the words of wisdom elektra, they definitely had a warm and fuzzy kind of vibe to them, :-3 yay!And that's definitely a lovely way of looking at it, i'll have to try extra hard to not focus on the good and the bad, but instead focus on doing what i feel is the best action to take in the moment :-3.--- On Tue, 10/7/08, Elektra Fire <elektra.fire wrote:Elektra Fire <elektra.fireRe: Re: something i'd really like an opinion on Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 6:35 PM A good place to start also is to stop putting things in to the good or the bad, this generates suffering. All things are really nuetral and as humans we identify labels of good and bad to situations which leads us to fear and anxiety or joy and hope. There is a Rumi saying (If i can get it right) "There is a field beyond good and bad, I'll meet you there". Non judgement is a state of being where we no longer worry about things as we realise that all is perfect, the good the bad and the ugly. All is one. So, just be the best you can in the moment and know that all is perfect. love elektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Linda I think you explained your opinion to LOCK very well, I could not have said it better and I think this is what LOCK was getting at. But I also think LOCK is in total wonderment of the expance of KUNDALINI as a whole. Kundalini is like that unreachable star, you know its there, you see it brightly shining. I think everyone will experience K in the way Shakti directs it. There are many books that have been written about Kundalini, many from Ph.D's. IMHO, after reading as many books I could find on kundalini I have noticed that most of the material is repetition from other writers and most have never activated their own K. However, this is a misconception to make us believe they are experts on Kundalini without having gone through the Kundalini process themselves. Our belief system begins to be challenged and the more we grow with K our thoughtz and opinions change to new ways. The old begins to die away and the new you begins to nuture. Old patterns we thought were important become less and less important simply because we have grown beyond the basics of old knowledge and we are now in the advanced K class. I believe that a lot of our upbringing through our parents and grandparents have a strong influence upon our thought process of what is right and what is wrong and when we step outside of the NORM, it can be scary at 1st but we swomehow SEE a different LIGHT than our parents and grandparents and their ways no longer fit into our lifestyle. This can be hard to overcome old ways versus new ways. Sorry if I got off on a rant....but this is my opinion and I hope it helps you LOCK to understand that with K expect the unexpected and just ALLOW the process. Working with Kundalini is a total new ball game! Denny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 thank you denny, words of wisdom that are greatly appreciated :-3. I'll have to meditate on this tonight after my tibetans :-).--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Denny <dennynorton wrote:Denny <dennynorton Re: something i'd really like an opinion on Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 10:17 PM Linda I think you explained your opinion to LOCK very well, I could not have said it better and I think this is what LOCK was getting at. But I also think LOCK is in total wonderment of the expance of KUNDALINI as a whole. Kundalini is like that unreachable star, you know its there, you see it brightly shining. I think everyone will experience K in the way Shakti directs it. There are many books that have been written about Kundalini, many from Ph.D's. IMHO, after reading as many books I could find on kundalini I have noticed that most of the material is repetition from other writers and most have never activated their own K. However, this is a misconception to make us believe they are experts on Kundalini without having gone through the Kundalini process themselves. Our belief system begins to be challenged and the more we grow with K our thoughtz and opinions change to new ways. The old begins to die away and the new you begins to nuture. Old patterns we thought were important become less and less important simply because we have grown beyond the basics of old knowledge and we are now in the advanced K class. I believe that a lot of our upbringing through our parents and grandparents have a strong influence upon our thought process of what is right and what is wrong and when we step outside of the NORM, it can be scary at 1st but we swomehow SEE a different LIGHT than our parents and grandparents and their ways no longer fit into our lifestyle. This can be hard to overcome old ways versus new ways. Sorry if I got off on a rant....but this is my opinion and I hope it helps you LOCK to understand that with K expect the unexpected and just ALLOW the process. Working with Kundalini is a total new ball game! Denny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Wonderful Denny, no more rule books and forget the past, just apply the safeties and let be what will be. Sounds good to me! Linda , " Denny " <dennynorton wrote: > > Linda I think you explained your opinion to LOCK very well, I could > not have said it better and I think this is what LOCK was getting at. > But I also think LOCK is in total wonderment of the expance of > KUNDALINI as a whole. Kundalini is like that unreachable star, you > know its there, you see it brightly shining. I think everyone will > experience K in the way Shakti directs it. There are many books that > have been written about Kundalini, many from Ph.D's. IMHO, after > reading as many books I could find on kundalini I have noticed that > most of the material is repetition from other writers and most have > never activated their own K. However, this is a misconception to make > us believe they are experts on Kundalini without having gone through > the Kundalini process themselves. Our belief system begins to be > challenged and the more we grow with K our thoughtz and opinions > change to new ways. The old begins to die away and the new you begins > to nuture. Old patterns we thought were important become less and > less important simply because we have grown beyond the basics of old > knowledge and we are now in the advanced K class. I believe that a > lot of our upbringing through our parents and grandparents have a > strong influence upon our thought process of what is right and what > is wrong and when we step outside of the NORM, it can be scary at 1st > but we swomehow SEE a different LIGHT than our parents and > grandparents and their ways no longer fit into our lifestyle. This > can be hard to overcome old ways versus new ways. Sorry if I got off > on a rant....but this is my opinion and I hope it helps you LOCK to > understand that with K expect the unexpected and just ALLOW the > process. Working with Kundalini is a total new ball game! > > Denny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Hey Steven (or do you actually prefer Lock? I'd like to know since you earlier stated that Lock was a name given by other people...) Sorry for the late reply but I'm stuck going over " Daily Digests " to catch up on things. Oct. 8th on Oct 18th!! Ten more days... Anyway, I thought I'd chime in with the scientific viewpoint using the neatest concept of " Quantum Entanglement " again Quantum entanglement is something that scientists have observed and known about since the 60s, however very few wanted to believe that it is true. Well, thankfully a few persevered and have shown that it is indeed true. On to the good stuff! Imagine a small ball of energy flying through space at the speed of light. Fastest thing we've been able to find so far. As its flying so incredibly fast some wacky scientist goes and puts a crystal (surprise!) in front of this little ball. As the energy ball goes through the crystal, it is convinced that it should split into two slightly smaller energy balls and go separate ways. These two new balls of energy go flying in different directions, supposedly as two separate balls. But we find something very odd.... If we change one ball of energy the other ball INSTANTLY knows what has happened and changes itself to match its sister!!! The scientists scratch their heads and wonder, " How on EARTH does that little ball of energy know what happened to the other one?? " To me the answer is simple... consciousness The " force " behind Kundalini! Pure consciousness that creates everything around us. Basically, these scientists found that there is some force or hidden dimension or WHATEVER that acts instantly across space. This means that the speed of light is not the fastest that anything can go, and thus why scientists had a hard time believing it. Goes against Einstein **GASP**. Another result of this is that time and space are two sides of the same coin. If you lose the preconceived notions of past and future as you say, you see that there is only the now. To me the entire cosmos is one giant mandala of energy that is ever changing. Past and future are simply concepts that we have made up through our recognition of certain patterns within the mandala. Our physical reality is intimately connected to this mandala, and the evidence is found through this phenomena of quantum entanglement. OH! By the way, these little balls of energy they use are photons. Light. The energy that is transferred between every sub-atomic particle, every atom of your body. It IS the energy flow of our Universe (in a physical sense). It is my belief that this flow is indeed affected by our consciousness (created by the universal consciousness actually) so your state of mind directly affects EVERYTHING in the universe, but most directly upon what you are focusing. Long rambling over, let me know what you guys think -Gabriel > Rippeling causality. the effect > this moment has on the future, and the effect the past has had on this > moment, and the effect our preconcieved notions of the future (and how > certain we believe those preconcieved notions about the future to be) > have an effect on the present and past. Does that have to do with K? > I'd think it very much so has to do with kundalini, as in kundalini is > somewhat of a union between those effects? Or at least looking at > times and stuff through lens that let you see all of the above in more > clearly and easily understood ways? Does that make sense? > > It > would kind of describe how the sensation of inner joy effects the > anxiety levels one has, it's like shifting how likely you believe some > preconcieved notions of the future from the negative to the positive at > the core of your being, making those notions favor the positive, which > influence your actions in the present towards the positive, which makes > the positive more likely to happen.... I know that's the basic > principle behind things like manifestation and what not right? But how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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