Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 " Oh it's just your imagination! " How many times have we heard this admonition? All through our lives we have received the denigration of the " imagination " as a storehouse of false experience. Because the imagination is also a locus for the fantastic and the fantasies of wish and wonder and the threshold of the dream world a great attempt has been made to ground a person in the every day five sense physical world by parents all around the world. And they are correct to do so. Being in the physical world requires attentiveness and the ability to move through the dense physical environment with confidence and intelligence. The imaginative world though isn't quite what are parents may have considered it be from a Kundalini perspective. Yes we can fantasize and day dream but we can also create and we can also open to areas beyond the fantasies and beyond the creating into venues that allow us access to remote viewing and experiencing visions etc. Imagination is the first step into visualization which has a better reputation. I suggest that as Kundalini people we can cultivate the imagination and release the doubts that we have been programmed with regarding its use. I was participating in a healing the other day and I asked one person what they were seeing. Every time I asked this question the person would answer " I don't see anything " . Over and over this occurred until the person finally stated " Well I IMAGINE I see... " all because they didn't have any confidence or belief that what they were seeing in the minds eye was anything close to being accurate. This is the fruit of the invalidation by society of the creative and imaginative senses. It is necessary to use this faculty for the discernment of the metaphysical. Doesn't mean you go out and create an experience. Doesn't mean you are making anything up. It does mean that you are using the senses that God gave you to develop and discern that which isn't available to the physical eye. Anyone inside of the Kundalini can attest that not everything they experience is able to be viewed by anyone other than themselves. Floating lights are one example among many. The imaginative qualities are the basis for activities other than visualization. Empathy, telepathy, clairvoyance, clairaudience, psychokinesis, healing, all have components that begin to be realized in the same areas where the imagination exists. When one doubts the imagination all other qualities in the same locale are also denigrated. This is why so much second guessing of personally experienced phenomena takes place by people inside of the Kundalini. They simply cannot believe that this fantastic experience is happening due to the invalidation of a belief or experience that incorporates the existence of the fantastic. The fantastic is right next door to the imagination. Kundalini often communicates to the activated person through the dream life. Dreams are another area of mistrust due to the fantastic nature of the expression. The Sennoi are tribe of indigenous people who live by the interpretation of their dreams. Their kids are taught to understand, respect, and honor their dreams. Every morning the tribe gathers to discuss the night's dreams and these dreams are taken seriously. Read Patricia Garfield's book on dreams and you will read more about the Sennoi. Pay attention to your imagination. Not as a tool of creation even though it can be used that way but also as a threshold into the areas of the divine communication that doesn't manipulate the body here or there as often happens with the Kundalini. Imgination is far more subtle that direct physicality. Use the imagination as a platform for healing and visualization and end the separation from truth and the invalidation of experiences attributed to it. Allow the imagination to open you to the very clear and resonant areas of the Kundalini. Kundalini is the bridge between the two worlds according to Shamanic lore and in the other world what you think or imagine is as real there as a city bus is here. - blessings all - chrism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Yes Chrism A newcommer who may have first exsperienced a siddha who maybe to shy to ask might wonder Is The kundalini imagination or is the imagination the kundalini all i was told and I was told on three different occaisions each time with a little more exsplaintion. That was " food follows thought " . i was also encouraged to meditate on it sometimes somethings just take time to settle in. you know i still find it hard to belive with absolute certanty that I can be instramentle in helping people to heal. Some people seem to be scared of it though others seem to be grateful. I am still in somewhat denial as i am still atached to the outcome and in possiable failer John , " chrism " <> wrote: > > " Oh it's just your imagination! " > > How many times have we heard this admonition? All through our lives > we have received the denigration of the " imagination " as a > storehouse of false experience. Because the imagination is also a > locus for the fantastic and the fantasies of wish and wonder and the > threshold of the dream world a great attempt has been made to ground > a person in the every day five sense physical world by parents all > around the world. And they are correct to do so. > > Being in the physical world requires attentiveness and the ability > to move through the dense physical environment with confidence and > intelligence. The imaginative world though isn't quite what are > parents may have considered it be from a Kundalini perspective. > > Yes we can fantasize and day dream but we can also create and we can > also open to areas beyond the fantasies and beyond the creating into > venues that allow us access to remote viewing and experiencing > visions etc. Imagination is the first step into visualization which > has a better reputation. > > I suggest that as Kundalini people we can cultivate the imagination > and release the doubts that we have been programmed with regarding > its use. > > I was participating in a healing the other day and I asked one > person what they were seeing. Every time I asked this question the > person would answer " I don't see anything " . Over and over this > occurred until the person finally stated " Well I IMAGINE I see... " > all because they didn't have any confidence or belief that what they > were seeing in the minds eye was anything close to being accurate. > This is the fruit of the invalidation by society of the creative and > imaginative senses. > > It is necessary to use this faculty for the discernment of the > metaphysical. Doesn't mean you go out and create an experience. > Doesn't mean you are making anything up. It does mean that you are > using the senses that God gave you to develop and discern that which > isn't available to the physical eye. Anyone inside of the Kundalini > can attest that not everything they experience is able to be viewed > by anyone other than themselves. Floating lights are one example > among many. > > The imaginative qualities are the basis for activities other than > visualization. Empathy, telepathy, clairvoyance, clairaudience, > psychokinesis, healing, all have components that begin to be > realized in the same areas where the imagination exists. When one > doubts the imagination all other qualities in the same locale are > also denigrated. > > This is why so much second guessing of personally experienced > phenomena takes place by people inside of the Kundalini. They simply > cannot believe that this fantastic experience is happening due to > the invalidation of a belief or experience that incorporates the > existence of the fantastic. The fantastic is right next door to the > imagination. > > Kundalini often communicates to the activated person through the > dream life. Dreams are another area of mistrust due to the fantastic > nature of the expression. The Sennoi are tribe of indigenous people > who live by the interpretation of their dreams. Their kids are > taught to understand, respect, and honor their dreams. Every morning > the tribe gathers to discuss the night's dreams and these dreams are > taken seriously. Read Patricia Garfield's book on dreams and you > will read more about the Sennoi. > > Pay attention to your imagination. Not as a tool of creation even > though it can be used that way but also as a threshold into the > areas of the divine communication that doesn't manipulate the body > here or there as often happens with the Kundalini. Imgination is far > more subtle that direct physicality. Use the imagination as a > platform for healing and visualization and end the separation from > truth and the invalidation of experiences attributed to it. > > Allow the imagination to open you to the very clear and resonant > areas of the Kundalini. Kundalini is the bridge between the two > worlds according to Shamanic lore and in the other world what you > think or imagine is as real there as a city bus is here. - blessings > all - chrism > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Thank you chrism for validating my life of imaginations. I have lived lifetimes in my imagination - traveled the world- met wonderful people-had great adventures - learned many wonderful lessons and found great knowledge - reading is a tool toward imagination. Reading takes one into the imagination into another world into the authors imagination. Now perhaps my (i) will step aside and let my (I) open to the dreams and the possibilities. Now (i) feel that my life of imagination has value - so Thank you again dear teacher ...e ===================== Posted through Grouply, the better way to access your like this one. http://www.grouply.com/?code=post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 > Yes we can fantasize and day dream but we can also create and we can > also open to areas beyond the fantasies and beyond the creating into > venues that allow us access to remote viewing and experiencing > visions etc. Imagination is the first step into visualization which > has a better reputation. > The imaginative qualities are the basis for activities other than > visualization. > It is necessary to use this faculty for the discernment of the > metaphysical. > Pay attention to your imagination. . . as a threshold into the > areas of the divine communication. . . Chrism, I am about to go to bed now (night owl these days), but I have to say that this is so uncanny. I have been thinking on this exact topic all night; was likely thinking these same things as you penned this message. The above quotes crystalise perfectly my line of thinking, that this faculty is really a continuum, or perhaps can be divided into lower mind/brain-based creation and higher-mind attunement or filtration of higher realities, but yes - there is a threshold there or a doorway, and it is much nearer and more easily crossed than we suspect, I think. Most people lump everything together, mislabel it and then dismiss it wholesale as "fantasy" or, as "just imagination." I was also thinking that there needs to be another word for the imagination that ushers in divine and profound truths into our everyday reality or lower mental realm. We've pretty much trashed that word by choosing to employ it either as invalidation of deeper, multi-level experience when it does manage to seep in through the cracks - or to refer to the talents of those credited with extending their mental powers beyond the real, accessible and fathomable. It delineates two distinct realms where no firm distinction or separation exists. I've also been thinking of the book "The Three Only's" for several days, particularly in regard to dreams being thought of as "only dreams." (I've been wanting to order the book). You already know how I feel about that one! Another section is on "only imagination" (don't recall what the third "only" is). Well, I just had to report the synchronicity. It seems more than a coincidence, no? I hope many people are having these same ruminations and realisations, and continue to do, as we see how unstable the material world is that we've "put so much stock in;" ha. Thanks for this. If it's still okay, I think I'm going to have to cross post this to Flight Plan. "night," Droxine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 This is a great topic! I have always had a rich dream life and taken my dreams very seriously, however, I was never good at visualization until about 10 years ago. At first, it is hard to trust visions or what we see it the mind's eye. Over time I have learned to trust mine and it has definately come in handy with healing, mediumship, psychic visions, etc. I am still learning to share the visuals I get with the people they are meant for, but I am quickly moving past that. That part is a matter of confidence and not wanting to sound like a nut, lol. Sarita , "chrism" <> wrote:>> "Oh it's just your imagination!"> > How many times have we heard this admonition? All through our lives > we have received the denigration of the "imagination" as a > storehouse of false experience. Because the imagination is also a > locus for the fantastic and the fantasies of wish and wonder and the > threshold of the dream world a great attempt has been made to ground > a person in the every day five sense physical world by parents all > around the world. And they are correct to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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