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Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm

coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in

high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became

deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this

type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the

idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my

situation.

 

Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school

where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their

function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule,

I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my

close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I

could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at

these people when walking by them in the hallways.

 

These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off

beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed

everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been

marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch

alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can

socialize and be happy.

 

I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can

become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me?

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hi illplusmatic,

 

I also live in the same kind of neighbourhood and social/class

situation as you do where people are extremely materially obsessed and

unconscious as to their larger purpose in the world.

 

It's not necessary to relate to the kind of behaviour that makes them

unconscious like sleepwalkers, but consider looking at them in a

different way instead of looking down on them. We are all brothers and

sisters, all members of one larger body. They are just like you except

they are unconscious at the moment. Sometime later they could wake up

too just like you have. Try not to erect a " me vs. them " kind of

boundary. It's hard but lots of patience and forgiveness is in order.

They have no idea about the kind of effect they are having on you.

 

Keep in touch with your friends. When you become k-active your

relationships with other people will naturally start to change through

that process. Some people will go out of your life and some new people

will come into it. It just happens. Don't ditch anybody, and it's not

necessary to identify with your friends. Just enjoy what you can enjoy

with the people in your life.

 

I feel your frustration. I am not in my teens but in my 20's and I

have struggled with a lot of the same things.

 

What I have found personally is that the more I have worked on myself,

the less other people's unconscious behaviour sets me off. If you

clear out whatever it is inside yourself that " resonates " , then you

don't become upset by what other people do.

 

 

For what it's worth,

 

Sarah

 

 

> Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school

> where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their

> function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule,

> I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my

> close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I

> could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at

> these people when walking by them in the hallways.

>

> These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off

> beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed

> everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been

> marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch

> alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can

> socialize and be happy.

>

> I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can

> become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me?

>

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Nothing like hip hop and drugs to expand your

consciousness Ill! I know from experience. I am 25 now

and became activated at 23. My activation was

partially catalyzed by drugs and it was very painful

and hard because I had not yet dealt with a lot of

issues that a regular moment to moment daily and

consistent practice of the safeties can help address.

Also, at such a young age it can be difficult to

ground and establish yourself completely in the

physical when you are functioning spiritually at a

very advanced level.

 

I can tell simply by virtue of the fact that you even

know about kundalini that you are already a deeply

spiritual person on a strong path. At your age I too

was outraged at the world around me and projected much

of my fear and anger onto the mad world I perceived

outside of myself. My spiritual quest in part I think

was always on some level about possibly finding a way

out of the madness through means of attaining

enlightenment, but I am finding that the only way out

of the world is through the gateway of the self, and

all of the madness within must be dealt with before

one can enter. Ultimately what we see when we look at

the world is ourselves. We either see it with love and

compassion and forgiveness, or we se it with hatred,

disdain, and disgust. We either see it's beauty and

potential of loveliness or we see it's ugliness and

sin. The lens is ours to focus.

 

Enlightenment in no way releases us from our

responsibility of choosing how we focus our lens of

perception in every moment. And within the kundalini

this responsibilty becomes extremely paramount in

navigating the heights and the depths of our

transformative process. My advice to you would just be

to take your time and know that you are blessed to

know the things you know now... to experience the

compassion and empathy and connectedness that you do

now, and to be what you are right now.

 

As far as growing apart from friends or feeling

alienated from your peers, I too can relate, but I am

telling you now as if I have taken a time machine back

to my 17 year old self, you can't imagine how much

your world is going to open up as soon as you get out

of high school. Right now your options in terms of the

small pond you are swimming in may be somewhat

limited. You are going to get some serious life

experience under your belt in the years following high

school that will change your paradigm of perception in

ways that may be unfathomable from your current

vantage point.

 

So all I'm offering you is, don't bum rush

enlightenment. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy your process of

coming into your highest vision for who you are in

your life. Participate in this joyful process actively

and know that there is no evil world out there that

has the capability of limiting you in any way or

keeping you from bringing your dreams for yourself to

fruition. And remember, there's only one of us here.

Peace and Love

Travis

--- illplusmatic <illplusmatic wrote:

 

> Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey?

> Me, not so good. I'm

> coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old

> and a senior in

> high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi

> Krishna, I became

> deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though,

> what turned me to this

> type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop.

> Straying from the

> idealistic western society is a very hard thing to

> do, especially in my

> situation.

>

> Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly

> white high school

> where people are so single minded and never stop to

> consider their

> function in this vast universe. Where drama and

> material things rule,

> I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these

> people, even my

> close group of friends. Once I become activated, I

> dont know if I

> could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help

> but look down at

> these people when walking by them in the hallways.

>

> These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and

> attitudes piss me off

> beyond words. Another complication is my drug use.

> I smoked weed

> everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a

> while. I have been

> marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find

> it hard to ditch

> alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is

> the only time I can

> socialize and be happy.

>

> I feel as though there are many things I must

> control before I can

> become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell

> you want to tell me?

>

>

>

>

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You have my sympathy on this one. I am having a struggle dealing with the people in my life and I am 38 years old. I can't imagine going through this at the tender age of 17 when things tend to be "out there" already.

One comment I would like to make is that we should never "look down" on another. If you have a negative response to someone then you need to examine those feelings. With the Kundalini, the ego needs to be let go of. One source for your anger could be envy of those "sheep" that are just plugging along, following the tail in front of them. Part of you may look down at them but another small part might wish you could be so blind. What is that phrase? "Ignorance is bliss."

Once you have knowledge and the changes start to take place you become responsible for it, there is no turning back. Despite the fact that this is uncomfortable for you, in the long run it will be in your best interests. I would recommend that you follow start following the Safeties, I think they will be invaluable to you right now. Best of luck!

Sarita

, "illplusmatic" <illplusmatic wrote:>> Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm > coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in > high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became > deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this > type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the > idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my > situation. > > Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school > where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their > function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, > I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my > close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I > could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at > these people when walking by them in the hallways. > > These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off > beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed > everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been > marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch > alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can > socialize and be happy.> > I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can > become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me?>

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Hi,

 

well, I can connect to a lot of your experience. I also used to smoke a

lot of pot, was into hip hop, parties, that kind of stuff, and still

sometimes want to drink on the weekend and socialize and laugh,

although i usually make different choices now as its just not worth it

anymore.

 

The difficulty you are experiencing is your resistance to how things

are, at some level believing that they should be different. Many of

these blocks are unconscious so you may not be able to see them or

access thme yet. These resistances are stored as blockages in the body,

and manifest as patterns of behaviour which may be positive or

negative. According to some teachers, suffering is the first grace, and

there is a saying " May you have enough suffering to cause you to

awaken. " The fact that these resistances are coming into awareness is a

blessing, and you can start the path of transformation by bringing as

much inner awareness and curiosity to them as you can. This process of

self reflection, of noticing and exploring but not acting from them,

will greatly help your spiritual development.

 

In the end, even the things you really enjoy will have to be let go of,

and then you will simply be left with preferences of behavior that do

not control you and you will know unconditional peace and freedom,

which is an extraordinary blessing.

 

SO, IMHO, take absolute responsibility for your reactions. Its not the

world that causes you to feel a certain way, its your reactions to the

world, and those reactions can be understood and transformed.

Also, very importantly, is to establish a routine of doing the safeties

as recoomended. Practicing those qualities and being disciplined will

be invaluable in the road ahead...

 

love

Bruce

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I can say been there, done that! Done the w33d smokin and the dr3g taking, we do it to numb the sinses so we can function in this 3d reality without going crazy.But, the best thing to do is to allow yourself to freely feel everything, don't try to numb it, then can we awaken fully.I too am fighting the alcohol usage as a social lubricant and the only thing that still bonds me to many of my friends.I have managed to enjoy being out without the booze and taken green tea in a bottle instead and found myself to have quite enough fun still :-))It takes time, take it easy on yourself and attack each addiction one at a time.You are doing really well with the smokin and dr3gs so give yourself credit and relax.Also, I would say, do not begin to see yourself as above others, stop looking down at them, this is the ego tricking you, you should

cultivate compassion and love and this will help you to reconnect to the others. No one is above or below, in God we are all equal, just at different points of the path.Try to focus on the good points in others instead of that which makes you different .....Hope this helps Angellove and blessingselektra x x x

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Hello love,

I resonated with the 40 day time period.. That is a very spiritual number. Blessings to you. You speak of "another problem" you have. May I suggest that alcohol and drug use are the only problems YOU have. What these other young people do is NOT your problem. You are here. You are different. Most of us who end up here never felt we belonged anwhere until we came to grips with this calling. What you are feeling is nothing more than separation anxiety. You must learn how to be separate yet a part. Many of us here use(d) the same type of artificial stimulants that cause a brief euphoria followed by a longer let-down where the beautiful colors you saw become dark and murky. But there is something real, and something that lasts if you can. Stay here, read, abstain from stimulants and depressants, eat healthy, meditate, practice safeties, and live this beautiful life daily in gratitude and

love. You will find that gratitude and love will become amplified in your life. We are not better/worse than these other people. We are just different. And this difference is a true gift. You have much of life ahead of you. You will continue to grow and change. How I wish I had found this at your young age. You have much to teach us. I will keep you in my prayers. Be gentle with yourself and others.

 

Blessings,

Julie

Julie--- On Sun, 10/26/08, illplusmatic <illplusmatic wrote:

illplusmatic <illplusmatic The Conflict of Kundalini and High School Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 8:41 PM

 

 

Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my situation. Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at these people when walking by them in the hallways. These people

and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can socialize and be happy.I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me?

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hey impulsmatic

great story to read you are doing well, keep it up. Though it is not

the drugs that brought you here. rather i belive it is your search

for freedom to exspress. there is no problem with keeping contact

with your friends what they smoke is not nessisarily what you need to

have because the k in itself will get you high. This high has no side

effects and you can sit with them while you are on your trip while

they are on theres. eventually though, what will most likely happen

is that yor vibration towards enableing shakti will wish to have

further freedom of exspression, the present culture that you

associate yourself with now will not blend enableing you to be able

to walk away retaining compassion and love for your friends. The nice

cars and of material substance are thier to be enjoyed though you

will find that the items of glamour will bind you. So just as you

would catch the shakti exspress put your luggage to the side no need

to carry it and enjoy the ride. Let the train take you to many

destinations towards liberation of self, If it does seem dificult now

be brave and develop exsperience through conflict, toward wisdon and

you will succeed. :-)

John M

 

, " illplusmatic "

<illplusmatic wrote:

>

> Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good.

I'm

> coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in

> high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I

became

> deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to

this

> type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from

the

> idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially

in my

> situation.

>

> Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high

school

> where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their

> function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things

rule,

> I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my

> close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I

> could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at

> these people when walking by them in the hallways.

>

> These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off

> beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed

> everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have

been

> marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch

> alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I

can

> socialize and be happy.

>

> I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can

> become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell

me?

>

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hi impulsmatic, you borned to live the life..but k-life is different,from now to death you will see:)..love..ali2008/10/27 johndplumber <jaganatha

 

 

 

 

 

hey impulsmatic

great story to read you are doing well, keep it up. Though it is not

the drugs that brought you here. rather i belive it is your search

for freedom to exspress. there is no problem with keeping contact

with your friends what they smoke is not nessisarily what you need to

have because the k in itself will get you high. This high has no side

effects and you can sit with them while you are on your trip while

they are on theres. eventually though, what will most likely happen

is that yor vibration towards enableing shakti will wish to have

further freedom of exspression, the present culture that you

associate yourself with now will not blend enableing you to be able

to walk away retaining compassion and love for your friends. The nice

cars and of material substance are thier to be enjoyed though you

will find that the items of glamour will bind you. So just as you

would catch the shakti exspress put your luggage to the side no need

to carry it and enjoy the ride. Let the train take you to many

destinations towards liberation of self, If it does seem dificult now

be brave and develop exsperience through conflict, toward wisdon and

you will succeed. :-)

John M

 

, " illplusmatic "

<illplusmatic wrote:

>

> Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good.

I'm

> coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in

> high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I

became

> deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to

this

> type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from

the

> idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially

in my

> situation.

>

> Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high

school

> where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their

> function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things

rule,

> I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my

> close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I

> could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at

> these people when walking by them in the hallways.

>

> These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off

> beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed

> everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have

been

> marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch

> alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I

can

> socialize and be happy.

>

> I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can

> become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell

me?

>

 

 

 

 

-- A.Arslan

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All of your responses are appreciated. It is good to know that people

can relate to some of the things I am saying. As far as these people

being sheep, that is exactly correct and I would do anything to have

wool still over my eyes.

 

I will begin to start the safeties everyday, and am really looking

foward to what may come.

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Step One: Come off ALL drugs and alcohol if possible. Alcohol

tampers with spirit. That is why it is called Spirit. It is false

spirit! Oh how you will blossom into a beautiful young person, when

you free yourself of all drugs and alcohol, and your spirit will

shine through...believe me....I know.....

CV

 

 

 

 

, " illplusmatic "

<illplusmatic wrote:

>

> Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good.

I'm

> coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in

> high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I

became

> deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to

this

> type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from

the

> idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially

in my

> situation.

>

> Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high

school

> where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their

> function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things

rule,

> I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my

> close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I

> could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at

> these people when walking by them in the hallways.

>

> These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off

> beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed

> everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have

been

> marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch

> alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I

can

> socialize and be happy.

>

> I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can

> become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell

me?

>

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heres the red pill and welcome to the meatrix

or was that matrix.

http://www.themeatrix.com/

J Morpheus

 

, " illplusmatic "

<illplusmatic wrote:

>

> All of your responses are appreciated. It is good to know that

people

> can relate to some of the things I am saying. As far as these people

> being sheep, that is exactly correct and I would do anything to have

> wool still over my eyes.

>

> I will begin to start the safeties everyday, and am really looking

> foward to what may come.

>

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You may feel right now as though you want to put the blinders back on, but in time you will change your mind about that. I felt the same way at the beginning, but the easy road is not necessarily our best road. What are we here for if not to grow? The world is much more beautiful than the view of the tail in front of you!

Sarita

, "illplusmatic" <illplusmatic wrote:>> All of your responses are appreciated. It is good to know that people > can relate to some of the things I am saying. As far as these people > being sheep, that is exactly correct and I would do anything to have > wool still over my eyes. > > I will begin to start the safeties everyday, and am really looking > foward to what may come.>

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illplusmatic, I can definitely relate to you. I am 25 right now, but i remember high school. I was completely a social reject because i did not fit in with xxxxxxxx (list all stereotypes of todays high schools). Later (right after high school) I realized, that it is beautiful to be different. Why be the same? Why try to fit in? Be what you want to be. I also did a lot of drugs and smoked a lot of weed up until recently. It started with just " getting messed up " with friends and then moved on to trying to attain something from higher places through chemicals. Now i realized that the chemicals kind of cloud your " high " . Everyday when you walk around on a clear head, hearing the sounds of nature, touching the ground with your feet, THAT high is amazing! Even through I am not k active and just (two weeks maybe) into the practice, the other things i am interested in and have a been studying for a little while such as buddhism/meditation/ashtanga yoga really made me " understand " myself. This understanding is where my everyday happiness comes from.

I guarantee that if you meet some of those " cool " kids from high school later in life, and they didnt " wake up " from trying to be someone fake on TV/video/etc early enought in their life, they will be stressed out, always complaining, never having enought, and always being negative. This is because they want to be someone noone can possibly be. So in the end there is always chronic depressiong/anger/sadness.

You have to understand that there is a huge amount of corporate money spend on trying to " shape " young people's minds in this country and all over the world. This is done through ALL the commercial media. If they succeed they get rich, because you will buy their clothes, go to their concerts, get their CDs, etc etc. Dont fall for this. Be yourself and in the future you are going to be so happy that you did. As for hip hop, even though I am not into 99% of hip hop, listen to artists such as Immortal Technique, Kenny Arkana, Rebel Diaz and see if you feel their lyrics. Anyway, sorry this is a little off topic.

If you have any questions brother post or email! Everyone seems really friendly and supporting of each other in this group. Mike

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