Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my situation. Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at these people when walking by them in the hallways. These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can socialize and be happy. I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 hi illplusmatic, I also live in the same kind of neighbourhood and social/class situation as you do where people are extremely materially obsessed and unconscious as to their larger purpose in the world. It's not necessary to relate to the kind of behaviour that makes them unconscious like sleepwalkers, but consider looking at them in a different way instead of looking down on them. We are all brothers and sisters, all members of one larger body. They are just like you except they are unconscious at the moment. Sometime later they could wake up too just like you have. Try not to erect a " me vs. them " kind of boundary. It's hard but lots of patience and forgiveness is in order. They have no idea about the kind of effect they are having on you. Keep in touch with your friends. When you become k-active your relationships with other people will naturally start to change through that process. Some people will go out of your life and some new people will come into it. It just happens. Don't ditch anybody, and it's not necessary to identify with your friends. Just enjoy what you can enjoy with the people in your life. I feel your frustration. I am not in my teens but in my 20's and I have struggled with a lot of the same things. What I have found personally is that the more I have worked on myself, the less other people's unconscious behaviour sets me off. If you clear out whatever it is inside yourself that " resonates " , then you don't become upset by what other people do. For what it's worth, Sarah > Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school > where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their > function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, > I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my > close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I > could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at > these people when walking by them in the hallways. > > These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off > beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed > everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been > marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch > alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can > socialize and be happy. > > I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can > become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Nothing like hip hop and drugs to expand your consciousness Ill! I know from experience. I am 25 now and became activated at 23. My activation was partially catalyzed by drugs and it was very painful and hard because I had not yet dealt with a lot of issues that a regular moment to moment daily and consistent practice of the safeties can help address. Also, at such a young age it can be difficult to ground and establish yourself completely in the physical when you are functioning spiritually at a very advanced level. I can tell simply by virtue of the fact that you even know about kundalini that you are already a deeply spiritual person on a strong path. At your age I too was outraged at the world around me and projected much of my fear and anger onto the mad world I perceived outside of myself. My spiritual quest in part I think was always on some level about possibly finding a way out of the madness through means of attaining enlightenment, but I am finding that the only way out of the world is through the gateway of the self, and all of the madness within must be dealt with before one can enter. Ultimately what we see when we look at the world is ourselves. We either see it with love and compassion and forgiveness, or we se it with hatred, disdain, and disgust. We either see it's beauty and potential of loveliness or we see it's ugliness and sin. The lens is ours to focus. Enlightenment in no way releases us from our responsibility of choosing how we focus our lens of perception in every moment. And within the kundalini this responsibilty becomes extremely paramount in navigating the heights and the depths of our transformative process. My advice to you would just be to take your time and know that you are blessed to know the things you know now... to experience the compassion and empathy and connectedness that you do now, and to be what you are right now. As far as growing apart from friends or feeling alienated from your peers, I too can relate, but I am telling you now as if I have taken a time machine back to my 17 year old self, you can't imagine how much your world is going to open up as soon as you get out of high school. Right now your options in terms of the small pond you are swimming in may be somewhat limited. You are going to get some serious life experience under your belt in the years following high school that will change your paradigm of perception in ways that may be unfathomable from your current vantage point. So all I'm offering you is, don't bum rush enlightenment. Enjoy the ride. Enjoy your process of coming into your highest vision for who you are in your life. Participate in this joyful process actively and know that there is no evil world out there that has the capability of limiting you in any way or keeping you from bringing your dreams for yourself to fruition. And remember, there's only one of us here. Peace and Love Travis --- illplusmatic <illplusmatic wrote: > Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? > Me, not so good. I'm > coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old > and a senior in > high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi > Krishna, I became > deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, > what turned me to this > type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. > Straying from the > idealistic western society is a very hard thing to > do, especially in my > situation. > > Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly > white high school > where people are so single minded and never stop to > consider their > function in this vast universe. Where drama and > material things rule, > I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these > people, even my > close group of friends. Once I become activated, I > dont know if I > could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help > but look down at > these people when walking by them in the hallways. > > These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and > attitudes piss me off > beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. > I smoked weed > everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a > while. I have been > marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find > it hard to ditch > alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is > the only time I can > socialize and be happy. > > I feel as though there are many things I must > control before I can > become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell > you want to tell me? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 You have my sympathy on this one. I am having a struggle dealing with the people in my life and I am 38 years old. I can't imagine going through this at the tender age of 17 when things tend to be "out there" already. One comment I would like to make is that we should never "look down" on another. If you have a negative response to someone then you need to examine those feelings. With the Kundalini, the ego needs to be let go of. One source for your anger could be envy of those "sheep" that are just plugging along, following the tail in front of them. Part of you may look down at them but another small part might wish you could be so blind. What is that phrase? "Ignorance is bliss." Once you have knowledge and the changes start to take place you become responsible for it, there is no turning back. Despite the fact that this is uncomfortable for you, in the long run it will be in your best interests. I would recommend that you follow start following the Safeties, I think they will be invaluable to you right now. Best of luck! Sarita , "illplusmatic" <illplusmatic wrote:>> Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm > coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in > high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became > deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this > type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the > idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my > situation. > > Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school > where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their > function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, > I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my > close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I > could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at > these people when walking by them in the hallways. > > These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off > beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed > everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been > marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch > alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can > socialize and be happy.> > I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can > become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hi, well, I can connect to a lot of your experience. I also used to smoke a lot of pot, was into hip hop, parties, that kind of stuff, and still sometimes want to drink on the weekend and socialize and laugh, although i usually make different choices now as its just not worth it anymore. The difficulty you are experiencing is your resistance to how things are, at some level believing that they should be different. Many of these blocks are unconscious so you may not be able to see them or access thme yet. These resistances are stored as blockages in the body, and manifest as patterns of behaviour which may be positive or negative. According to some teachers, suffering is the first grace, and there is a saying " May you have enough suffering to cause you to awaken. " The fact that these resistances are coming into awareness is a blessing, and you can start the path of transformation by bringing as much inner awareness and curiosity to them as you can. This process of self reflection, of noticing and exploring but not acting from them, will greatly help your spiritual development. In the end, even the things you really enjoy will have to be let go of, and then you will simply be left with preferences of behavior that do not control you and you will know unconditional peace and freedom, which is an extraordinary blessing. SO, IMHO, take absolute responsibility for your reactions. Its not the world that causes you to feel a certain way, its your reactions to the world, and those reactions can be understood and transformed. Also, very importantly, is to establish a routine of doing the safeties as recoomended. Practicing those qualities and being disciplined will be invaluable in the road ahead... love Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 I can say been there, done that! Done the w33d smokin and the dr3g taking, we do it to numb the sinses so we can function in this 3d reality without going crazy.But, the best thing to do is to allow yourself to freely feel everything, don't try to numb it, then can we awaken fully.I too am fighting the alcohol usage as a social lubricant and the only thing that still bonds me to many of my friends.I have managed to enjoy being out without the booze and taken green tea in a bottle instead and found myself to have quite enough fun still :-))It takes time, take it easy on yourself and attack each addiction one at a time.You are doing really well with the smokin and dr3gs so give yourself credit and relax.Also, I would say, do not begin to see yourself as above others, stop looking down at them, this is the ego tricking you, you should cultivate compassion and love and this will help you to reconnect to the others. No one is above or below, in God we are all equal, just at different points of the path.Try to focus on the good points in others instead of that which makes you different .....Hope this helps Angellove and blessingselektra x x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Hello love, I resonated with the 40 day time period.. That is a very spiritual number. Blessings to you. You speak of "another problem" you have. May I suggest that alcohol and drug use are the only problems YOU have. What these other young people do is NOT your problem. You are here. You are different. Most of us who end up here never felt we belonged anwhere until we came to grips with this calling. What you are feeling is nothing more than separation anxiety. You must learn how to be separate yet a part. Many of us here use(d) the same type of artificial stimulants that cause a brief euphoria followed by a longer let-down where the beautiful colors you saw become dark and murky. But there is something real, and something that lasts if you can. Stay here, read, abstain from stimulants and depressants, eat healthy, meditate, practice safeties, and live this beautiful life daily in gratitude and love. You will find that gratitude and love will become amplified in your life. We are not better/worse than these other people. We are just different. And this difference is a true gift. You have much of life ahead of you. You will continue to grow and change. How I wish I had found this at your young age. You have much to teach us. I will keep you in my prayers. Be gentle with yourself and others. Blessings, Julie Julie--- On Sun, 10/26/08, illplusmatic <illplusmatic wrote: illplusmatic <illplusmatic The Conflict of Kundalini and High School Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 8:41 PM Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my situation. Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at these people when walking by them in the hallways. These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can socialize and be happy.I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 hey impulsmatic great story to read you are doing well, keep it up. Though it is not the drugs that brought you here. rather i belive it is your search for freedom to exspress. there is no problem with keeping contact with your friends what they smoke is not nessisarily what you need to have because the k in itself will get you high. This high has no side effects and you can sit with them while you are on your trip while they are on theres. eventually though, what will most likely happen is that yor vibration towards enableing shakti will wish to have further freedom of exspression, the present culture that you associate yourself with now will not blend enableing you to be able to walk away retaining compassion and love for your friends. The nice cars and of material substance are thier to be enjoyed though you will find that the items of glamour will bind you. So just as you would catch the shakti exspress put your luggage to the side no need to carry it and enjoy the ride. Let the train take you to many destinations towards liberation of self, If it does seem dificult now be brave and develop exsperience through conflict, toward wisdon and you will succeed. :-) John M , " illplusmatic " <illplusmatic wrote: > > Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm > coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in > high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became > deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this > type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the > idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my > situation. > > Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school > where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their > function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, > I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my > close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I > could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at > these people when walking by them in the hallways. > > These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off > beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed > everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been > marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch > alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can > socialize and be happy. > > I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can > become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 hi impulsmatic, you borned to live the life..but k-life is different,from now to death you will see:)..love..ali2008/10/27 johndplumber <jaganatha hey impulsmatic great story to read you are doing well, keep it up. Though it is not the drugs that brought you here. rather i belive it is your search for freedom to exspress. there is no problem with keeping contact with your friends what they smoke is not nessisarily what you need to have because the k in itself will get you high. This high has no side effects and you can sit with them while you are on your trip while they are on theres. eventually though, what will most likely happen is that yor vibration towards enableing shakti will wish to have further freedom of exspression, the present culture that you associate yourself with now will not blend enableing you to be able to walk away retaining compassion and love for your friends. The nice cars and of material substance are thier to be enjoyed though you will find that the items of glamour will bind you. So just as you would catch the shakti exspress put your luggage to the side no need to carry it and enjoy the ride. Let the train take you to many destinations towards liberation of self, If it does seem dificult now be brave and develop exsperience through conflict, toward wisdon and you will succeed. :-) John M , " illplusmatic " <illplusmatic wrote: > > Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm > coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in > high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became > deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this > type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the > idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my > situation. > > Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school > where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their > function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, > I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my > close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I > could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at > these people when walking by them in the hallways. > > These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off > beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed > everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been > marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch > alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can > socialize and be happy. > > I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can > become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me? > -- A.Arslan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 All of your responses are appreciated. It is good to know that people can relate to some of the things I am saying. As far as these people being sheep, that is exactly correct and I would do anything to have wool still over my eyes. I will begin to start the safeties everyday, and am really looking foward to what may come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2008 Report Share Posted October 27, 2008 Step One: Come off ALL drugs and alcohol if possible. Alcohol tampers with spirit. That is why it is called Spirit. It is false spirit! Oh how you will blossom into a beautiful young person, when you free yourself of all drugs and alcohol, and your spirit will shine through...believe me....I know..... CV , " illplusmatic " <illplusmatic wrote: > > Hello all, how we doin on our spiritual journey? Me, not so good. I'm > coming to a crossraod in my life. I'm 17 years old and a senior in > high school. After reading a couple books by Gopi Krishna, I became > deeply interested Kundalini. It's funny though, what turned me to this > type of alternative thought was drugs and hip-hop. Straying from the > idealistic western society is a very hard thing to do, especially in my > situation. > > Its so hard to be in a suburban rich predominantly white high school > where people are so single minded and never stop to consider their > function in this vast universe. Where drama and material things rule, > I'm finding it harder and harder to relate to these people, even my > close group of friends. Once I become activated, I dont know if I > could simply turn my back on them. I cannot help but look down at > these people when walking by them in the hallways. > > These people and their VH1/MTV, mercedes, and attitudes piss me off > beyond words. Another complication is my drug use. I smoked weed > everyday for 3 years and did other drugs once in a while. I have been > marijuana free for 40 days now. I do however find it hard to ditch > alcohol consumption on the weekends because it is the only time I can > socialize and be happy. > > I feel as though there are many things I must control before I can > become K activated. any advice/ whatever the hell you want to tell me? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 heres the red pill and welcome to the meatrix or was that matrix. http://www.themeatrix.com/ J Morpheus , " illplusmatic " <illplusmatic wrote: > > All of your responses are appreciated. It is good to know that people > can relate to some of the things I am saying. As far as these people > being sheep, that is exactly correct and I would do anything to have > wool still over my eyes. > > I will begin to start the safeties everyday, and am really looking > foward to what may come. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 You may feel right now as though you want to put the blinders back on, but in time you will change your mind about that. I felt the same way at the beginning, but the easy road is not necessarily our best road. What are we here for if not to grow? The world is much more beautiful than the view of the tail in front of you! Sarita , "illplusmatic" <illplusmatic wrote:>> All of your responses are appreciated. It is good to know that people > can relate to some of the things I am saying. As far as these people > being sheep, that is exactly correct and I would do anything to have > wool still over my eyes. > > I will begin to start the safeties everyday, and am really looking > foward to what may come.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 illplusmatic, I can definitely relate to you. I am 25 right now, but i remember high school. I was completely a social reject because i did not fit in with xxxxxxxx (list all stereotypes of todays high schools). Later (right after high school) I realized, that it is beautiful to be different. Why be the same? Why try to fit in? Be what you want to be. I also did a lot of drugs and smoked a lot of weed up until recently. It started with just " getting messed up " with friends and then moved on to trying to attain something from higher places through chemicals. Now i realized that the chemicals kind of cloud your " high " . Everyday when you walk around on a clear head, hearing the sounds of nature, touching the ground with your feet, THAT high is amazing! Even through I am not k active and just (two weeks maybe) into the practice, the other things i am interested in and have a been studying for a little while such as buddhism/meditation/ashtanga yoga really made me " understand " myself. This understanding is where my everyday happiness comes from. I guarantee that if you meet some of those " cool " kids from high school later in life, and they didnt " wake up " from trying to be someone fake on TV/video/etc early enought in their life, they will be stressed out, always complaining, never having enought, and always being negative. This is because they want to be someone noone can possibly be. So in the end there is always chronic depressiong/anger/sadness. You have to understand that there is a huge amount of corporate money spend on trying to " shape " young people's minds in this country and all over the world. This is done through ALL the commercial media. If they succeed they get rich, because you will buy their clothes, go to their concerts, get their CDs, etc etc. Dont fall for this. Be yourself and in the future you are going to be so happy that you did. As for hip hop, even though I am not into 99% of hip hop, listen to artists such as Immortal Technique, Kenny Arkana, Rebel Diaz and see if you feel their lyrics. Anyway, sorry this is a little off topic. If you have any questions brother post or email! Everyone seems really friendly and supporting of each other in this group. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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